(07-08-2013 08:04 AM)VA49er Wrote: If a parade float had something about "Black History Month", would it have been racists? Of course not, but that's the double standard we live with today.
Here's a southern white guy selling fried chicken. Is he a racist? One guy sells watermelons and with no other info an assumption is made that he might be an agitator and not a farmer. The double standard is huge.
Sorry Steve, but you really don't play stupid very well. At least I hope you're just playing around here. Regardless, it's not very funny or constructive anymore.
(07-08-2013 08:04 AM)VA49er Wrote: If a parade float had something about "Black History Month", would it have been racists? Of course not, but that's the double standard we live with today.
Here's a southern white guy selling fried chicken. Is he a racist? One guy sells watermelons and with no other info an assumption is made that he might be an agitator and not a farmer. The double standard is huge.
Sorry Steve, but you really don't play stupid very well. At least I hope you're just playing around here. Regardless, it's not very funny or constructive anymore.
Is there an elephant in the room?
I believe a lot of you are more concerned with the Confederate flag than anything.
Remember North Carolina had more people that died during the War of Northern Aggression
on the peaceful people of the Confederate States of America than any other state.
1 out of every 4 Confederate dead was from North Carolina. We don't talk about it much,
so maybe that's the reason for him wanting a white history month. Maybe he is remembering
relatives. Not trying to start a war here, just trying to think of a reason.
(07-08-2013 12:19 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Or he thinks that white people should have a history month if other races do
and figured a flag that many whites fought and died for was a symbol of that.
A lot more white people have fought and died for the American flag. I guess using that one wouldn't be as inflammatory though.
I'm willing to bet that a lot of people, including southerners don't even know what the confederate flag stands for except for whatever rabble rousing reason they were told. Southerners take a lot of pride in being southerners much like texans are proud to be texans, you don't see that any place else in the country. But a southern symbol is the confederate flag, is that wrong? As I constantly hear on this board, you don't have a right to not be offended if you disagree with something. The catholic religion killed hundreds of thousands of people, so is the cross offensive because it represents Catholicism? if a person has a problem with the flag or the cross it's his problem for only seeing the side he chooses to see.
There is nothing wrong with giving a white person a hug. And a watermelon is a common fruit. If you have a problem with it then it sucks to be you.
Read this story.. People are explaining to kids why the flag and watermelons are bad. They're the ones perpetuating the bad side of the flag and watermelons.
Also, the OP says the guy is a farmer. What's he supposed to do, not grow a specific fruit because of some bull**** stereotype?
The link in this post said he had a permit to have the melons in his float.
Quote:Alicia Jones was attending the parade with her young son and said she was completely taken aback by what she saw.
‘At that time his innocence was broken, and I had to sit there in the parade and explain to my son what that, at seven years old,’ Jones told WNCN. ‘I mean it really caught me off-guard.’
Bullock and town commissioner Pat Edwards said Spell had been in parades before. In the past, he was allowed to display his antique tractors as he did Thursday, and even to wave the Confederate flag.
(07-08-2013 05:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote: I'm willing to bet that a lot of people, including southerners don't even know what the confederate flag stands for except for whatever rabble rousing reason they were told. Southerners take a lot of pride in being southerners much like texans are proud to be texans, you don't see that any place else in the country. But a southern symbol is the confederate flag, is that wrong? As I constantly hear on this board, you don't have a right to not be offended if you disagree with something. The catholic religion killed hundreds of thousands of people, so is the cross offensive because it represents Catholicism? if a person has a problem with the flag or the cross it's his problem for only seeing the side he chooses to see.
There is nothing wrong with giving a white person a hug. And a watermelon is a common fruit. If you have a problem with it then it sucks to be you.
I'm a southerner, but all that means is I was born and live in the South. I take more pride in being an American, not being from a certain part of America.
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2013 05:28 PM by Memphis Blazer.)
(07-08-2013 05:06 PM)smn1256 Wrote: I'm willing to bet that a lot of people, including southerners don't even know what the confederate flag stands for except for whatever rabble rousing reason they were told. Southerners take a lot of pride in being southerners much like texans are proud to be texans, you don't see that any place else in the country. But a southern symbol is the confederate flag, is that wrong? As I constantly hear on this board, you don't have a right to not be offended if you disagree with something. The catholic religion killed hundreds of thousands of people, so is the cross offensive because it represents Catholicism? if a person has a problem with the flag or the cross it's his problem for only seeing the side he chooses to see.
There is nothing wrong with giving a white person a hug. And a watermelon is a common fruit. If you have a problem with it then it sucks to be you.
I'm a southerner, but all that means is I was born and live in the South. I take more pride in being an American, not being from a certain part of America.
What happened to the redneck part of your post? At least you didn't say he was inbred.
(07-08-2013 12:19 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Or he thinks that white people should have a history month if other races do
and figured a flag that many whites fought and died for was a symbol of that.
A lot more white people have fought and died for the American flag. I guess using that one wouldn't be as inflammatory though.
Agree. But one symbolizes whites more in a way. Especially if calling for a white history month.
I grew up on a farm in rural Western North Carolina. We had a black church next to our farm. No other houses anywhere around. Blacks came from all over the state for certain services. Think it was built in @ 1820's. Was a long circular dirt road of about five miles. My dad saved that church from being burned down more than once. When you would see a bunch of rednecks driving slowly by you would get the idea that they were up to something. So he would watch. He almost got killed one time when some people starting shooting at him because he took his shotgun over to see what they were doing. My mom got a rifle out and drove them away. It's not a white or black thing. It's always a right or wrong thing.
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2013 05:39 PM by GoApps70.)
(07-08-2013 08:04 AM)VA49er Wrote: If a parade float had something about "Black History Month", would it have been racists? Of course not, but that's the double standard we live with today.
Here's a southern white guy selling fried chicken. Is he a racist? One guy sells watermelons and with no other info an assumption is made that he might be an agitator and not a farmer. The double standard is huge.
Sorry Steve, but you really don't play stupid very well. At least I hope you're just playing around here. Regardless, it's not very funny or constructive anymore.
Not sure what you're getting at. 'splain
Now you are just trying to rub people the wrong way. The same thing that he is doing, you are doing in this thread.
(07-08-2013 08:04 AM)VA49er Wrote: If a parade float had something about "Black History Month", would it have been racists? Of course not, but that's the double standard we live with today.
Here's a southern white guy selling fried chicken. Is he a racist? One guy sells watermelons and with no other info an assumption is made that he might be an agitator and not a farmer. The double standard is huge.
Sorry Steve, but you really don't play stupid very well. At least I hope you're just playing around here. Regardless, it's not very funny or constructive anymore.
Not sure what you're getting at. 'splain
Now you are just trying to rub people the wrong way. The same thing that he is doing, you are doing in this thread.
What? I was agreeing with what VA said and added some more. If a white guy can sell chicken in the south in spite of the stereotype, then why can't a white guy sell melons? The guy is a farmer, how do you know he didn't grow them?
And other stories quote his neighbors as saying the guy wasnt trying to mean or vicious, no one really knows what he thinks. On the other hand, do you think he thinks the Cambridge police acted stupidly or if he had a son he would look like TM? This guy has not injected race into anything, but the assumptions of a lot of other people have. People are taking 3 innocent actions, the melons, the white pride day, and the flag and turned them in either antagonism or worse. Just goes to show you that you can find racism anywhere if you try hard enough.
This farmer made the local news here in Central VA last night. Evidently the parade application didn't mention the sign, flag, etc. When parade officials saw the assembly at the parade they asked him to remove the sign and left assuming he would. He didn't.
Interesting thing is a reporter interviewed two minority folks and both said that, although the parade float caught there eye, it didn't really offend them.
So, like usual, this is probably just the media trying to make something larger than it actually ever was in the first place. You know, trying to create news. Imagine that.
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