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If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
Let's assume the ACC stands firm with their recent additions and that everyone has indeed signed their GOR and that they get their network. Should Texas and Oklahoma realize the disadvantage long term that their conference is in and the Big 12 was suddenly open for the taking of new members who should the SEC add and why?

To me the ideal additions would be Kansas & Oklahoma. We would likely find ourselves in head to head competition with the Big 10 for these schools. Kansas is a better cultural fit for the Big 10. Oklahoma could fit in just about anywhere. I think the ideal here is highly unlikely. So my goal would be to add the Sooners and West Virginia. The Mountaineers would be joyous to be a part of the SEC and that is worth a lot to me. Oklahoma might choose the Big 10 but if they do in my opinion they will wind up like Nebraska, good, but a shadow of their former selves. Personally, I think they need Southern recruiting ties to stay viable.

If the Sooners did go elsewhere the Cowboys are fine with me. They are top 25 in profitability and are competitive in all sports.
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.
07-06-2013 10:21 PM
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-06-2013 10:21 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.

It would be fun to grow a burr in the Buckeye's backside.
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-06-2013 10:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:21 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.

It would be fun to grow a burr in the Buckeye's backside.

I bet the SEC would pull a lot of kids away from the B1G with addition of Cincy...
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-06-2013 08:54 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Let's assume the ACC stands firm with their recent additions and that everyone has indeed signed their GOR and that they get their network. Should Texas and Oklahoma realize the disadvantage long term that their conference is in and the Big 12 was suddenly open for the taking of new members who should the SEC add and why?

To me the ideal additions would be Kansas & Oklahoma. We would likely find ourselves in head to head competition with the Big 10 for these schools. Kansas is a better cultural fit for the Big 10. Oklahoma could fit in just about anywhere. I think the ideal here is highly unlikely. So my goal would be to add the Sooners and West Virginia. The Mountaineers would be joyous to be a part of the SEC and that is worth a lot to me. Oklahoma might choose the Big 10 but if they do in my opinion they will wind up like Nebraska, good, but a shadow of their former selves. Personally, I think they need Southern recruiting ties to stay viable.

If the Sooners did go elsewhere the Cowboys are fine with me. They are top 25 in profitability and are competitive in all sports.

A fair assessment for sure. I don't really think Kansas would be a proper pick up for the SEC. Missouri can help with the markets there in time. WVU has more of an upside for the SEC than Kansas does. Granted, I understand Kansas's power in basketball but you guys have schools that are slowly improving in basketball.

Kansas isn't as strong as they are by recruiting their area, they recruit basketball nationally. West Virginia and the Beltway is a much better place for the SEC to expand to in regards to making the SEC better at basketball across the board.

If Oklahoma decided to go to the SEC, I would completely understand the logic. I would disagree with it of course and I think Sooner football would continue to slide from the prominence it used to have. It would be similar to Arkansas in the SEC in terms of football.

OSU on the other hand is better prepared for the situation it would be dropped into in regards to joining the SEC. They have been growing with that chip on their shoulder. They have been expanding facilities and upgrading all over the place as the stat you stated about them shows.

It's not that I think an OSU/WVU combo is the Best possible addition for the SEC when it comes to Big 12 schools but I think it is one that Slive and company should definitely be open to should this type of scenario ever become an actual possibility. The way those two schools would slide right into a 4 pod/division system in the SEC just can't be denied.
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-07-2013 01:00 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:21 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.

It would be fun to grow a burr in the Buckeye's backside.

I bet the SEC would pull a lot of kids away from the B1G with addition of Cincy...

Would the rest of the SEC really care to? Certainly Kentucky might like it considering all the Ohio recruiting they are trying to do but who else would be for that move instead of a move with some of the other potentials stated in this thread?
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-07-2013 06:52 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 01:00 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:21 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.

It would be fun to grow a burr in the Buckeye's backside.

I bet the SEC would pull a lot of kids away from the B1G with addition of Cincy...

Would the rest of the SEC really care to? Certainly Kentucky might like it considering all the Ohio recruiting they are trying to do but who else would be for that move instead of a move with some of the other potentials stated in this thread?
The SEC would care greatly for its network exposure in sixth largest state. It's that same reason the Big10 just had to have Maryland. Even though Maryland isn't really very good.
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
Obviously A&M wants no Okie or Texas school in the SEC to preserve our recruiting advantage (OK schools are Tx schools for recruiting purposes)

So I'd take WVU and KU
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(07-07-2013 10:28 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Obviously A&M wants no Okie or Texas school in the SEC to preserve our recruiting advantage (OK schools are Tx schools for recruiting purposes)

So I'd take WVU and KU

Replace WVU with Tech
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(07-07-2013 09:58 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 06:52 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 01:00 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 10:21 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I would add Oklahoma for sure. But I would add Cincinnati before I added anyone else. The potential market is just to great to pass up.

It would be fun to grow a burr in the Buckeye's backside.

I bet the SEC would pull a lot of kids away from the B1G with addition of Cincy...

Would the rest of the SEC really care to? Certainly Kentucky might like it considering all the Ohio recruiting they are trying to do but who else would be for that move instead of a move with some of the other potentials stated in this thread?
The SEC would care greatly for its network exposure in sixth largest state. It's that same reason the Big10 just had to have Maryland. Even though Maryland isn't really very good.

That's why I wouldn't be surprised if we ever went to 18. We pick up two more states to the West if the Big 12 goes and use that as an opportunity to get West Virginia and one more maybe Cincinnati. Then if Virginia or North Carolina ever come calling we could still move to 20 or 24.

If anything ever happens to the ACC the PAC and Big 10 are going to 20 or more as well anyway. And if nothing happens to the ACC we have 4 new states, a slither of the beltway, and a much more travel friendly West division: Arkansas, Kansas/KState, Oklahoma/OSU, Missouri, L.S.U. & Texas A&M.

Central division: Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, Tenn., Vandy

East division: Cincinnati/ECU, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, S. Carolina, WVU
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