Let me get this straight. According to his logic:

AAC brings in CUSA teams = loser.

CUSA loses top teams to AAC and brings in Sun Belt and FCS teams = winner.

Did I get that right?

(07-03-2013 12:36 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Let me get this straight. According to his logic:

AAC brings in CUSA teams = loser.

CUSA loses top teams to AAC and brings in Sun Belt and FCS teams = winner.

Did I get that right?

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Monkey butte powder.

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Did I embed that right? I'm still working on my smack talking skills. On a serious note, this stuff gets rid of diaper rash and swamp a$$ (according to hubby). Was that TMI?

I think the AAC should have taken Marshall for all sports. First of all, Marshall is a fine university. Secondly, they are geographically located. Third, they would provide stiff competition to WVU and the Big 12 option. Fourth, very competitive in football and basketball. I would have chosen Marshall over Tulsa and Navy any day of the week. Finally, did anyone see "We Are Marshall". What a fine movie. Not to mention the fact Marshall beat Xavier in football. Gotta be a fan of that.

(07-02-2013 10:25 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  What Marshall really needs is the SBC and CUSA to combine and split off onto East-West conferences instead of being all mixed together. Neither league has any kind of identity at this point.

Harsh but true.

Don't get your panties in a wad. Even we Marshall folks don't take Chuck all that seriously.

(07-02-2013 11:08 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  They literally beat no name schools out of conference for years and years.

So, beating a BCS Conference co-champion (2011 Louisville) doesn't qualify in your book?

Click for Marshall 17 - Louisville 13 - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312740097

(07-03-2013 01:22 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(07-02-2013 11:08 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  They literally beat no name schools out of conference for years and years.

So, beating a BCS Conference co-champion (2011 Louisville) doesn't qualify in your book?

Click for Marshall 17 - Louisville 13 - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312740097

By years and years I meant their first 6 years in the leauge. 0 for 15 against BCS schools until you beat 7-6 Louisville by 4 in 2011. Louisville lost to FIU that year too.

Overall, Marshall is 1-19 against BCS schools as a C-USA member. This after coming into C-USA with a record of 79 wins vs 23 losses from 1996-2004.

We thought we were getting a Boise-like firecracker. Instead, Marshall was a complete dud.

(07-03-2013 01:40 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

I'm starting to think that chuck landon = herdzoned.

(07-03-2013 01:39 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 01:22 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(07-02-2013 11:08 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  They literally beat no name schools out of conference for years and years.

So, beating a BCS Conference co-champion (2011 Louisville) doesn't qualify in your book?

Click for Marshall 17 - Louisville 13 - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312740097

By years and years I meant their first 6 years in the leauge. 0 for 15 against BCS schools until you beat 7-6 Louisville by 4 in 2011. Louisville lost to FIU that year too.

Overall, Marshall is 1-19 against BCS schools as a C-USA member. This after coming into C-USA with a record of 79 wins vs 23 losses from 1996-2004.

We thought we were getting a Boise-like firecracker. Instead, Marshall was a complete dud.

I think Marshall has proven that it can play at the AAC level. Whether university and area fit the AAC demographic could be argued either way, but on field/on court/ ticket gate performance aren't issues in my opinion. "Complete dud" is unfair in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised to see them challenge Tulsa/ECU for the title this football season.

Chuck is a out of step with reality and has been in many of his columns.

(07-02-2013 10:36 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(07-02-2013 09:49 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  Its Chuck Landon. Nothing he writes is good. You should see some of the stuff he has written about Memphis basketball the last couple of years......its hilarious.

Two classics -

I am SICK of Memphis

Get over yourself, Memphis

Hahaha....there they are!

Marshall's problem is that any success they've had on the field/court has always been followed by some sort of cheating scandal. Add in the fact that they've done next to nothing in revenue sports in CUSA and you get my point. They've now taken a win at all costs mentality it seems for football, loading up on as many NQ's and other various charity cases as possibly for football. IMO, the whole NQ concept shouldn't be allowed, PERIOD. It's a slap in the face of the "non-athlete."

For me personally.... I have no use for Marshall University.

Marshall lurkers, don't paint other ECU fans with a broad brush regarding this statement. These are my own personal feelings regarding your school and NQ's.

(07-03-2013 02:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Marshall's problem is that any success they've had on the field/court has always been followed by some sort of cheating scandal. Add in the fact that they've done next to nothing in revenue sports in CUSA and you get my point. They've now taken a win at all costs mentality it seems for football, loading up on as many NQ's and other various charity cases as possibly for football. IMO, the whole NQ concept shouldn't be allowed, PERIOD. It's a slap in the face of the "non-athlete."

For me personally.... I have no use for Marshall University.

Marshall lurkers, don't paint other ECU fans with a broad brush regarding this statement. These are my own personal feelings regarding your school and NQ's.

We (ECU) only got religion on partials and NQs after joining the AAC, due to the league agreement not to accept any. We got hammered routinely for taking them by our ACC counterparts until it was revealed that UNC basically had a whole football program of them and they were keeping them eligible via wholesale academic fraud. The thing I've noticed about Doc Holliday is that he kicks a lot of kids out, so if he's got some sort of advantage it's offset by high turnover. And ECU still is taking NQs (one per year in state only I'm told) until we become official members. I have no problem with it if they project to be good citizen types that will make an effort in the classroom.

With that said, I think Marshall overall has an increasingly frustrated, bitter fanbase due to their lack of traction since they joined CUSA. I agree that may be due to them getting caught cheating in their glory days.

I get it, ECU took NQ's. I wish we never had to be honest as they "allowance" is a damn joke. It's a fundamental disagreement I have regarding NQ's in general here, not ECU vs Marshall vs UNC, etc.. My point is if they can't make the grades to get into college, why the hell should there be an exception to the rules for them just b/c they can play a sport? That goes for ANY university, including ECU, that admits NQ's. I'll just leave it at that.

The UNC scandal is a different matter entirely.

(07-03-2013 02:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Marshall's problem is that any success they've had on the field/court has always been followed by some sort of cheating scandal. Add in the fact that they've done next to nothing in revenue sports in CUSA and you get my point. They've now taken a win at all costs mentality it seems for football, loading up on as many NQ's and other various charity cases as possibly for football. IMO, the whole NQ concept shouldn't be allowed, PERIOD. It's a slap in the face of the "non-athlete."

The AAC is about adding winning programs. With the exception of Tulane every school added to the AAC brings something in one of the two major sports to the AAC.

And Tulane as we know was only added to the AAC after Tulsa initially said no. The AAC has started to get to the point where its time to look at the best market available but mostly its about adding programs. Marshall in this regard doesn't bring enough to be considered, IMO.

(07-03-2013 02:56 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 02:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Marshall's problem is that any success they've had on the field/court has always been followed by some sort of cheating scandal. Add in the fact that they've done next to nothing in revenue sports in CUSA and you get my point. They've now taken a win at all costs mentality it seems for football, loading up on as many NQ's and other various charity cases as possibly for football. IMO, the whole NQ concept shouldn't be allowed, PERIOD. It's a slap in the face of the "non-athlete."

The AAC is about adding winning programs. With the exception of Tulane every school added to the AAC brings something in one of the two major sports to the AAC.

And Tulane as we know was only added to the AAC after Tulsa initially said no. The AAC has started to get to the point where its time to look at the best market available but mostly its about adding programs. Marshall in this regard doesn't bring enough to be considered, IMO.

Tulane was added because they bring exceptional academics, a good market, and promising future athletic potential given their huge $ investments.

(07-03-2013 05:25 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  I think the AAC should have taken Marshall for all sports. First of all, Marshall is a fine university. Secondly, they are geographically located. Third, they would provide stiff competition to WVU and the Big 12 option. Fourth, very competitive in football and basketball. I would have chosen Marshall over Tulsa and Navy any day of the week. Finally, did anyone see "We Are Marshall". What a fine movie. Not to mention the fact Marshall beat Xavier in football. Gotta be a fan of that.

Can't tell if you're serious...

(07-03-2013 02:56 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 02:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Marshall's problem is that any success they've had on the field/court has always been followed by some sort of cheating scandal. Add in the fact that they've done next to nothing in revenue sports in CUSA and you get my point. They've now taken a win at all costs mentality it seems for football, loading up on as many NQ's and other various charity cases as possibly for football. IMO, the whole NQ concept shouldn't be allowed, PERIOD. It's a slap in the face of the "non-athlete."

The AAC is about adding winning programs. With the exception of Tulane every school added to the AAC brings something in one of the two major sports to the AAC.

And Tulane as we know was only added to the AAC after Tulsa initially said no. The AAC has started to get to the point where its time to look at the best market available but mostly its about adding programs. Marshall in this regard doesn't bring enough to be considered, IMO.

Where are you getting this info on Tulsa? That is absolutely not the case. Tulane was invited because the C7 could stomach is easier than ECU for full membership (due to academics, profile, location). We were a compromise, and then ECU was added FB only the same day (no c7 votes required), and then the conference broke apart and Tulsa was only added later.

Tulsa was not considered at all until Boise and SDSU left. I mean, let's be real -- you think Tulsa said no to the FULL Big East, when it existed, and then said yes after it imploded? Jesus tits that's dumb.