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(07-01-2013 03:29 PM)123az Wrote:  RIP UC athletics?

Really? Yeah, UC should just close up shop. 01-wingedeagle
 
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(07-01-2013 03:29 PM)123az Wrote:  RIP UC athletics?

There were far darker days in the past; UC is making the best of a bad situation. I think many are over-reacting a bit.

Can Whit be the next Bob Goin and lead UC to a power conference..?
 
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American Athletic Conference gets its chance after brutal two years
July 2, 2013 10:41 am ET



Commissioner Mike Aresco isn't calling the AAC a new league, but a successor to the Big East. (Courtesy of AAC)




In the last two years, just about everything that could have gone wrong for the old Big East -- relaunched Monday as the American Athletic Conference -- did exactly that.

Once the Big East turned down that $130 million annual deal from ESPN in 2011, the realignment avalanche poured on the conference's Providence, R.I., office. The league lost football members to the Big 12, Big Ten, ACC and Mountain West. The deal with ESPN shrunk nearly sevenfold for a conference left with a few tenured members and old Conference USA parts.

To hear “American” commissioner Mike Aresco tell it, however, things probably could have been worse.

The ACC's grant of rights shielded the American from further poaching. Aresco calls the ACC's move a “big deal.” Had the Big Ten raided the ACC again, longest-tenured American members UConn, Cincinnati and USF would have been the prime replacement candidates. Lose two more, and maybe the incoming Conference USA schools for 2014 -- East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane -- would have stayed in Conference USA. Navy joins the American in 2015 to make a 12-team football league.

Video: AAC beginsAAC rings in existence with promo video
A clean break with the Catholic 7 basketball schools that kept the namesake, thus avoiding litigation, helped the American finalize an ESPN deal in early 2013 instead of prolonging the instability, Aresco said.

There was extra cash from the Catholic 7 naming rights, and the American distributed revenue from NCAA men's basketball tournament “units” left behind by the basketball schools.

“It could have been a messy situation,” Aresco said.

Fair or not, the American was widely perceived as the nation's sixth-best football conference before the defections, only this is the last year with BCS automatic-qualifying status. Now, the dividing line between the five power conferences and the smaller “Group of 5,” where the American finds itself, is clearly cut by more than $100 million from now to 2020.

This leaves the American with no choice but to get creative and, well, win.

There's enough left to do just that, Aresco said.

“All I've ever wanted for this group is a chance,” Aresco said, “and we have a chance.”

Aresco isn't calling this a new conference but a successor to the old Big East. With UConn, Cincinnati and USF still on the roster, perhaps the succession plan is fitting.

But the American must welcome the new-league feel of this week after what became a perpetual break-up scene, only with no one left to carry out the boxes.

Pitt and Syracuse's move to the ACC finally became official this week. Louisville, a top-10 contender for 2013, still has one more year. Heck, Cincinnati president Santa J. Ono might still be sending holiday cards to ACC brass.

For once, there's not a divorce to finalize or a name to rebrand or a logo to draw up.

“We've done a lot of conference calls,” joked Aresco about his tenure that started in August.

New bowl?AAC might create its own bowl game
The American's basketball lineup is still impressive, and Cincinnati football is coming off five double-digit-win seasons in the last six years. Tulsa has been a winning program for much of the last decade. Several other football programs have shown glimpses, including new addition UCF. USF briefly ranked No. 2 in 2007.

But the league could use a cornerstone football program, which would help in future media rights negotiations in 2020.

There will be chances for upset non-conference wins and jockeying for a College Football Playoff “New Year's Day” bowl that produces a higher end-of-season payout.

Starting in 2014, the American is fighting with the Mountain West, MAC, Conference USA and Sun Belt for one CFP spot.

“It's going to depend on what we do on the field, but I think we're pretty good,” Aresco said.

UConn athletics director Warde Manuel says two keys for the American are staying positive and growing the value.

“How you play and what you do will help determine the future,” Manuel said. “By then, we can be better as a conference and extract more value in media rights once your television partner sees what we're doing as a conference and you hope you're in a position to be stronger and have proven success.”

Aresco knows realignment could surface again one day, and he's not hiding from that possibility. If someone feels they found a better car, that person should buy it -- as long as you know the current home is a “great place,” he says.

“We're going to be OK,” Aresco said. “I think the biggest thing is this is a good group of schools that didn't -- obviously, they are not in one of those five [power] conferences -- but they felt this was the best home for them.”

Bowl developments: The American is talking with the Pac-12 about partnering on a start-up bowl in the Miami area, Aresco said.

“They are looking at it,” Aresco said. “They are still debating how many tie-ins they want to have. It's an attractive proposition for them.”

The BBVA Compass Bowl (Birmingham, Ala.) and Military Bowl (Annapolis, Md.) are likely destinations for the American, Aresco said. The Beef O'Brady's (St. Petersburg, Fla.) and Liberty (Memphis, Tenn.) are possibilities.
 
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(07-02-2013 11:39 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  
(07-01-2013 03:29 PM)123az Wrote:  RIP UC athletics?

There were far darker days in the past; UC is making the best of a bad situation. I think many are over-reacting a bit.

Can Whit be the next Bob Goin and lead UC to a power conference..?

This year should be fine for football; basketball will definitely be taking a step back. Wait 'til we see the RPI numbers slipping because our conference schedule is so weak. Beating Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane could be far worse in the RPI than a close loss to Syracuse or Georgetown.

I certainly hope that Whit and Santa can lead UC to a power conference. But being left behind is on their watch also. All the good talk needs to eventually turn into results. Scoreboard is all that matters, and UC is falling behind in their biggest game.

I will praise them both when we get in to the B12, ACC or B10 from the highest mountain top (or CBA garage roof). But they will also get all the blame when they leave UC for $greener$ pastures due to decreased athletic revenue, decreased enrollment, and decreased alumni giving realized from several years of minor league sports.
 
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Being left behind on their watch (Whit and Santa) has about as much to do with them as joining the Big East on Nancy's watch had to do with her. Dr. Steger and Bob Goin did all the heavy lifting to get UC there. Similarly, long-term problems Whit and Santa inherited (low donor participation, low season ticket sales, erratic attendance, some outdated facilities relative to other BCS programs) put UC at a disadvantage compared with other expansion candidates. I believe Whit and Santa are doing everything within their power to turn the battleship; progress is measurable but the next conference move will once again be largely dependent on factors beyond their control.
The AAC is a decent home for 2013-14. Beyond that it's unclear but I believe there will be movement by the B10, B12 and or ACC before 2015.
 
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(07-02-2013 12:05 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 11:39 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  
(07-01-2013 03:29 PM)123az Wrote:  RIP UC athletics?

There were far darker days in the past; UC is making the best of a bad situation. I think many are over-reacting a bit.

Can Whit be the next Bob Goin and lead UC to a power conference..?

This year should be fine for football; basketball will definitely be taking a step back. Wait 'til we see the RPI numbers slipping because our conference schedule is so weak. Beating Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane could be far worse in the RPI than a close loss to Syracuse or Georgetown.

Margin of victory doesn't affect RPI. Losing by 50 at the #1 RPI school is better for your own RPI then beating a top 150 RPI team at home by 50.
 
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(07-02-2013 12:32 PM)indycat Wrote:  ...progress is measurable but the next conference move will once again be largely dependent on factors beyond their control.

Everything is negotiable for the right price. Beyond their control? I sure hope our leadership does not believe that the future of UC is beyond their control.
 
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(07-02-2013 12:53 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 12:32 PM)indycat Wrote:  ...progress is measurable but the next conference move will once again be largely dependent on factors beyond their control.

Everything is negotiable for the right price. Beyond their control? I sure hope our leadership does not believe that the future of UC is beyond their control.

I just hope the fans do not think this is beyond their control and actually donate/attend games.
 
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(07-02-2013 12:53 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 12:32 PM)indycat Wrote:  ...progress is measurable but the next conference move will once again be largely dependent on factors beyond their control.

Everything is negotiable for the right price. Beyond their control? I sure hope our leadership does not believe that the future of UC is beyond their control.

Well the ACC voting a grant of rights and locking down their membership was totally beyond their control. I agree with you though--the onus is on them as our highly compensated leaders to get the job done. As we've all lamented, what a shame with such on-field and on-court success that we've had this big dark cloud called conference realignment following the 'Cats the past two years now.
 
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(07-02-2013 01:20 PM)indycat Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 12:53 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 12:32 PM)indycat Wrote:  ...progress is measurable but the next conference move will once again be largely dependent on factors beyond their control.

Everything is negotiable for the right price. Beyond their control? I sure hope our leadership does not believe that the future of UC is beyond their control.

--the onus is on them as our highly compensated leaders to get the job done.

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(07-02-2013 11:07 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(07-01-2013 03:29 PM)123az Wrote:  RIP UC athletics?

Really? Yeah, UC should just close up shop. 01-wingedeagle

No doubt...haha

RIP UC athletics...lol as we just got an 80+ million upgrade/expansion to the Nip approved.



UC will be fine. We have tremendous leadership and for now are ok. Yes...if we stay in the POS conference and out of the P5 then over the next 10 years it will be increasingly harder to compete but for the short term we are ok and all we can do is put our best foot fwd and hope for that invite to the adult table at thanksgiving dinner.
 
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10 years? Three years and the damage might be permanent.

Very small margin for error regarding the upcoming football season.
 
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(07-03-2013 08:47 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  10 years? Three years and the damage might be permanent.

Very small margin for error regarding the upcoming football season.

UC played FB for almost 100 years before being included in a BCS conference and yet climbed to the level the BE wanted the program. Boise State for FB and Louisville as an Athletic Dept are the model for UC to follow. I'm cautiously optimistic heading forward.
 
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