(06-20-2013 03:57 PM)mufootballfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2013 03:33 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-18-2013 12:38 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  This is just a gauge of the education demographics of the board.

I was going to make this more in depth by separating out the different types of doctoral (professional/ non-professional) and masters degrees (terminal, professional, and non-terminal), but that got rather complex. However, if you'd like to share what type of degree you have you can.

A person's level of education does not measure that person's knowledge of sports, now dose it?

Or ability to spell.

(06-21-2013 02:33 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(06-20-2013 03:57 PM)mufootballfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2013 03:33 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-18-2013 12:38 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  This is just a gauge of the education demographics of the board.

I was going to make this more in depth by separating out the different types of doctoral (professional/ non-professional) and masters degrees (terminal, professional, and non-terminal), but that got rather complex. However, if you'd like to share what type of degree you have you can.

A person's level of education does not measure that person's knowledge of sports, now dose it?

Or ability to spell.

I suffer from dyslexic fingers on occasion myself...

BBA, Temple University.

(06-21-2013 08:02 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 02:33 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(06-20-2013 03:57 PM)mufootballfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2013 03:33 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-18-2013 12:38 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  This is just a gauge of the education demographics of the board.

I was going to make this more in depth by separating out the different types of doctoral (professional/ non-professional) and masters degrees (terminal, professional, and non-terminal), but that got rather complex. However, if you'd like to share what type of degree you have you can.

A person's level of education does not measure that person's knowledge of sports, now dose it?

Or ability to spell.

I suffer from dyslexic fingers on occasion myself...

so do I

How is this relevant to a college sports message board? I mean really, who cares. I once knew a guy who had 5 purchasing agensts working under him...he was 35 years old with a High School Education (started at the company at 19), everyone was at least 10 to 15 years older than him and all had a degree from various colleges. The reason they worked for him is because his brain power probably exceeded all theirs combined and he knew how to make decisions and make the trains run on time. They were followers not leaders.

If one doesn’t have the ear of some very powerful people at the college presidential or super booster level and above or know some very high up executive level types from major media empires chances are one doesn’t know anymore than Joe Blow super fan. Just always remember and be mindful anyone can sound important and informed but how much is really solid information, how much is opinion, how much passes the logic and common sense test, and how much is total BS. Another good way to look at things is to always separate opinion from fact and to NEVER EVER believe in sacred cows.

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary


The world is made up of two kinds of people….leaders and followers. Which one are you? Do your co-workers pay attention and listen to what you have to say? Do you possess the critical thinking skills to make very important snap decisions on the job or do you defer to others. Do you accept blame or are you one of the types that always look to shift blame when the stuff hits the fan. Are you a go getter? When working for a company do you treat the companies money like it were your own…you know like eliminate waste and strive for continuous improvement or do you just go along and do no more than required or just enough more than that to look good? Do you ever let emotion override rational thinking/judgment when discouraged on the job? Are you a team player? Are you one that seeks recognition for doing a good job or do you let your work product speak for itself?


Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?



In closing I would ask again? How is the original question relevant to college sports?

I would be curious to know how many people have REAL MEANINGFUL work experience in either advertising or sales and marketing for let’s say a company that does at a bare minimum 500 million a year is sales. Something like that would be relevant as opposed to hey guess what I went to Harvard.

Masters, but it was further than I should have gone. Wrong educational direction, but it worked out OK.

Love the schools sports teams as it was a blast going and I have a lot of state pride. I'm not as big of a fan of my school as an alumni. For one, tuition (including "fees") almost doubled in the time I was there. More than that, there were too many classes I felt what was being taught from an ideological perspective I did not agree with. Let's just say that modern multiculturalism (not to be confused with the traditional melting pot) should actually be considered rather than just assuming this relatively modern concept is good and past philosophies were bad before we even get into a class.

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  How is this relevant to a college sports message board?

Everything you said is accurate. Education doesn't make anyone smarter or better at getting things done. However, those things are correlated with higher education. Smarter people TEND to be more educated, but that doesn't mean that your education makes you smarter.

I think it was an honest question. This really isn't a "college sports" message board. It's more of a "business of college sports" message board, which is a really eggheaded topic. And eggheaded topics tend to draw the interests of "book smart" people. Book smart people tend to have degrees. The question just tests that hypothesis, nothing more.

Well I certainly don't mean to offeend anyone and If I do thats not my intent but if this is a "business of college sports" message board it's sorely lacking with factual information that would be material to the subject of busniess.

Having siad that maybe if should be changed from "conference realignment board" to "unsourced opinions go the business of college sport"

My point is basically the question was stupid to begin with because it's not relevant and comes off as elitist in a subtle way......this is a freaking fan site to discuss stuff and to occasionaly pimp web sites, nothing more nothing less.....I just honestly think some people have an overinflated sense of self worth.

Gueess what? I went to Yale and I'm not only a better fan but I'm also a smarter fan than everyone else because I'm Ivy League.


I guess I would agree that to just bluntly ask everyones post highschool education level would be an egghead topic. But like I said, who cares?

Fresno St. 2001, BA in Liberal Studies(emphasis Kinesiology), Minor in Geography.

Best part of all of that is that I got to retire from teaching at 31(2009) to be a stay at home dad. My wife makes more as a teacher and wanted me at home over having the kids in daycare. I still give the high school exit exam to say on the payroll in case I ever want to come back.

(06-21-2013 03:39 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Fresno St. 2001, BA in Liberal Studies(emphasis Kinesiology), Minor in Geography.

Best part of all of that is that I got to retire from teaching at 31(2009) to be a stay at home dad. My wife makes more as a teacher and wanted me at home over having the kids in daycare. I still give the high school exit exam to say on the payroll in case I ever want to come back.

Does your wife have a single sister who shares her mentality?

(06-21-2013 03:25 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  Well I certainly don't mean to offeend anyone and If I do thats not my intent but if this is a "business of college sports" message board it's sorely lacking with factual information that would be material to the subject of busniess.

All I'm saying is that conference realignment is about 99% business and 1% sports. Nobody is talking about first downs or passing yardage or time of possession on this message board.

There's no way about 90% of this forum has a bachelors or better, given that something like only 25% of adult Americans have one. I'm calling BS! (BS...get it?)

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  How is this relevant to a college sports message board? I mean really, who cares. I once knew a guy who had 5 purchasing agensts working under him...he was 35 years old with a High School Education (started at the company at 19), everyone was at least 10 to 15 years older than him and all had a degree from various colleges. The reason they worked for him is because his brain power probably exceeded all theirs combined and he knew how to make decisions and make the trains run on time. They were followers not leaders.

If one doesn’t have the ear of some very powerful people at the college presidential or super booster level and above or know some very high up executive level types from major media empires chances are one doesn’t know anymore than Joe Blow super fan. Just always remember and be mindful anyone can sound important and informed but how much is really solid information, how much is opinion, how much passes the logic and common sense test, and how much is total BS. Another good way to look at things is to always separate opinion from fact and to NEVER EVER believe in sacred cows.

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary

The world is made up of two kinds of people….leaders and followers. Which one are you? Do your co-workers pay attention and listen to what you have to say? Do you possess the critical thinking skills to make very important snap decisions on the job or do you defer to others. Do you accept blame or are you one of the types that always look to shift blame when the stuff hits the fan. Are you a go getter? When working for a company do you treat the companies money like it were your own…you know like eliminate waste and strive for continuous improvement or do you just go along and do no more than required or just enough more than that to look good? Do you ever let emotion override rational thinking/judgment when discouraged on the job? Are you a team player? Are you one that seeks recognition for doing a good job or do you let your work product speak for itself?


Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?



In closing I would ask again? How is the original question relevant to college sports?

I would be curious to know how many people have REAL MEANINGFUL work experience in either advertising or sales and marketing for let’s say a company that does at a bare minimum 500 million a year is sales. Something like that would be relevant as opposed to hey guess what I went to Harvard.

1) 145
2) $113,000/yr

I purchased something at the Harvard bookstore. Does that count for something?

(06-21-2013 08:06 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  How is this relevant to a college sports message board? I mean really, who cares. I once knew a guy who had 5 purchasing agensts working under him...he was 35 years old with a High School Education (started at the company at 19), everyone was at least 10 to 15 years older than him and all had a degree from various colleges. The reason they worked for him is because his brain power probably exceeded all theirs combined and he knew how to make decisions and make the trains run on time. They were followers not leaders.

If one doesn’t have the ear of some very powerful people at the college presidential or super booster level and above or know some very high up executive level types from major media empires chances are one doesn’t know anymore than Joe Blow super fan. Just always remember and be mindful anyone can sound important and informed but how much is really solid information, how much is opinion, how much passes the logic and common sense test, and how much is total BS. Another good way to look at things is to always separate opinion from fact and to NEVER EVER believe in sacred cows.

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary

The world is made up of two kinds of people….leaders and followers. Which one are you? Do your co-workers pay attention and listen to what you have to say? Do you possess the critical thinking skills to make very important snap decisions on the job or do you defer to others. Do you accept blame or are you one of the types that always look to shift blame when the stuff hits the fan. Are you a go getter? When working for a company do you treat the companies money like it were your own…you know like eliminate waste and strive for continuous improvement or do you just go along and do no more than required or just enough more than that to look good? Do you ever let emotion override rational thinking/judgment when discouraged on the job? Are you a team player? Are you one that seeks recognition for doing a good job or do you let your work product speak for itself?


Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?



In closing I would ask again? How is the original question relevant to college sports?

I would be curious to know how many people have REAL MEANINGFUL work experience in either advertising or sales and marketing for let’s say a company that does at a bare minimum 500 million a year is sales. Something like that would be relevant as opposed to hey guess what I went to Harvard.

1) 145
2) $113,000/yr

I purchased something at the Harvard bookstore. Does that count for something?

My IQ is 86, I'll work for anything shiny, and I saw the movie "Good Will Hunting."

(06-21-2013 03:39 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Fresno St. 2001, BA in Liberal Studies(emphasis Kinesiology), Minor in Geography.

Best part of all of that is that I got to retire from teaching at 31(2009) to be a stay at home dad. My wife makes more as a teacher and wanted me at home over having the kids in daycare. I still give the high school exit exam to say on the payroll in case I ever want to come back.

Good for you. Would have enjoyed being a stay at home Dad!

(06-21-2013 08:40 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 08:06 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  How is this relevant to a college sports message board? I mean really, who cares. I once knew a guy who had 5 purchasing agensts working under him...he was 35 years old with a High School Education (started at the company at 19), everyone was at least 10 to 15 years older than him and all had a degree from various colleges. The reason they worked for him is because his brain power probably exceeded all theirs combined and he knew how to make decisions and make the trains run on time. They were followers not leaders.

If one doesn’t have the ear of some very powerful people at the college presidential or super booster level and above or know some very high up executive level types from major media empires chances are one doesn’t know anymore than Joe Blow super fan. Just always remember and be mindful anyone can sound important and informed but how much is really solid information, how much is opinion, how much passes the logic and common sense test, and how much is total BS. Another good way to look at things is to always separate opinion from fact and to NEVER EVER believe in sacred cows.

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary

The world is made up of two kinds of people….leaders and followers. Which one are you? Do your co-workers pay attention and listen to what you have to say? Do you possess the critical thinking skills to make very important snap decisions on the job or do you defer to others. Do you accept blame or are you one of the types that always look to shift blame when the stuff hits the fan. Are you a go getter? When working for a company do you treat the companies money like it were your own…you know like eliminate waste and strive for continuous improvement or do you just go along and do no more than required or just enough more than that to look good? Do you ever let emotion override rational thinking/judgment when discouraged on the job? Are you a team player? Are you one that seeks recognition for doing a good job or do you let your work product speak for itself?


Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?



In closing I would ask again? How is the original question relevant to college sports?

I would be curious to know how many people have REAL MEANINGFUL work experience in either advertising or sales and marketing for let’s say a company that does at a bare minimum 500 million a year is sales. Something like that would be relevant as opposed to hey guess what I went to Harvard.

1) 145
2) $113,000/yr

I purchased something at the Harvard bookstore. Does that count for something?

86 and anything shiny

There was a time when I essentially just worked for beer. One of the happiest times of my life.

(06-21-2013 08:45 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  There was a time when I essentially just worked for beer. One of the happiest times of my life.

This E-beer is on the house.

(06-21-2013 08:45 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 08:40 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 08:06 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  How is this relevant to a college sports message board? I mean really, who cares. I once knew a guy who had 5 purchasing agensts working under him...he was 35 years old with a High School Education (started at the company at 19), everyone was at least 10 to 15 years older than him and all had a degree from various colleges. The reason they worked for him is because his brain power probably exceeded all theirs combined and he knew how to make decisions and make the trains run on time. They were followers not leaders.

If one doesn’t have the ear of some very powerful people at the college presidential or super booster level and above or know some very high up executive level types from major media empires chances are one doesn’t know anymore than Joe Blow super fan. Just always remember and be mindful anyone can sound important and informed but how much is really solid information, how much is opinion, how much passes the logic and common sense test, and how much is total BS. Another good way to look at things is to always separate opinion from fact and to NEVER EVER believe in sacred cows.

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary

The world is made up of two kinds of people….leaders and followers. Which one are you? Do your co-workers pay attention and listen to what you have to say? Do you possess the critical thinking skills to make very important snap decisions on the job or do you defer to others. Do you accept blame or are you one of the types that always look to shift blame when the stuff hits the fan. Are you a go getter? When working for a company do you treat the companies money like it were your own…you know like eliminate waste and strive for continuous improvement or do you just go along and do no more than required or just enough more than that to look good? Do you ever let emotion override rational thinking/judgment when discouraged on the job? Are you a team player? Are you one that seeks recognition for doing a good job or do you let your work product speak for itself?


Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?



In closing I would ask again? How is the original question relevant to college sports?

I would be curious to know how many people have REAL MEANINGFUL work experience in either advertising or sales and marketing for let’s say a company that does at a bare minimum 500 million a year is sales. Something like that would be relevant as opposed to hey guess what I went to Harvard.

1) 145
2) $113,000/yr

I purchased something at the Harvard bookstore. Does that count for something?

86 and anything shiny

There was a time when I essentially just worked for beer. One of the happiest times of my life.

Been there and done that on both scenarios. I prefered working for beer too. Now that I'm retired I still work my butt off for everyone else in the family, the digestion doesn't handle beer anymore (I still make room for a couple of pints of Guinness from time to time), and Uncle Sam still wants his cut. I never realized when I was working for essentially beer and date money just how great it was to be enjoying life on the Mendoza line of the tax brackets.

(06-20-2013 09:21 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Vulcan Science Academy '85, B.S. Nuclear Physics
Klingon College of War '89, M.S. Advanced Weapons Systems



... the inevitable Star Trek reference.

no Star Fleet Academy?

slacker

(06-21-2013 01:36 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  Do you think you possess the same type of critical thinking, leadership, and problem solving skills to go along with a can do attitude to lead others as let’s say an enlisted USMC Staff Sgt with 10 years of service (whether if be infantry, avionics, logistics etc…..) Do you apply these types of principals to your daily work routine?

I would ask two simple questions since we are trying to see who the sharpest knifes in the drawer are?

(1) what is everyone’s real IQ
(2) what is everyone’s annual salary

I think we would both agree that USMC Staff Sgts are pretty sharp knifes, or at least they know how to use one. However they wouldn't score very well on your barometer as having particularly high IQs or salaries, those are just as sweeping generalizations as how many letters you have after your name.

Besides, someone's IQ is a pretty poor measure of intelligence and an even worse measure of competence.