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I was in FL last week and gas was around $3.40. Up here it was/is around $4.10. Don't get it.

Yeah. Michigan has the 2nd highest gas prices in the nation. Second only to Hawaii. And our esteemed politicians in this state want to raise the gas tax.

Here's the current tax per state: http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-g...-2009-2013

MI: $4.10 = $3.71 before taxes
FL: $3.40 = $3.05 before taxes

(06-12-2013 02:58 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  Yeah. Michigan has the 2nd highest gas prices in the nation. Second only to Hawaii. And our esteemed politicians in this state want to raise the gas tax.

I get Hawaii, shipping costs and all, but don't get how an economically depressed state located in the middle of the country warrants these prices.

(06-12-2013 03:20 PM)thegeneral Wrote:  Here's the current tax per state: http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-g...-2009-2013

MI: $4.10 = $3.71 before taxes
FL: $3.40 = $3.05 before taxes

Ironic, the fed and states make more money off gas than the stations that sell it do.

(06-12-2013 03:42 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 02:58 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  Yeah. Michigan has the 2nd highest gas prices in the nation. Second only to Hawaii. And our esteemed politicians in this state want to raise the gas tax.

I get Hawaii, shipping costs and all, but don't get how an economically depressed state located in the middle of the country warrants these prices.

Something about 4 refineries in the Midwest are all in unexpected shutdowns right now, including the marathon one in Detroit that burned a few weeks back.

(06-12-2013 05:04 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  [
Something about 4 refineries in the Midwest are all in unexpected shutdowns right now, including the marathon one in Detroit that burned a few weeks back.

Marathon supposedly netted $44.9 BILLION last year.

How 'bout putting some of that back into fixing the refineries instead of gouging users?

And where are our duly elected state officials to protect the tax payers-citizens?

(06-12-2013 05:42 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 05:04 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  [
Something about 4 refineries in the Midwest are all in unexpected shutdowns right now, including the marathon one in Detroit that burned a few weeks back.

Marathon supposedly netted $44.9 BILLION last year.

How 'bout putting some of that back into fixing the refineries instead of gouging users?

And where are our duly elected state officials to protect the tax payers-citizens?

I have stock in Marathon, mostly because I like how they run their Speedway stores. The stock has done nothing in 2 years.

Quote:And where are our duly elected state officials to protect the tax payers-citizens?

In an unfettered, unregulated free market economy, our duly elected leaders would not need to tax us so highly or protect us either. I suppose an unfettered free market would be so efficient that taxes would organically drop. At least that what Henry Reardon believes.

Marathon is too busy trafficking petroleum coke in SW Detroit for the Koch brothers.

(06-12-2013 05:48 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I have stock in Marathon, mostly because I like how they run their Speedway stores. The stock has done nothing in 2 years.

Maybe you need to have your broker investigated, CD?

(06-12-2013 06:18 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  Marathon is too busy trafficking petroleum coke in SW Detroit for the Koch brothers.

On the other hand they do produce a product that we all need and it's cheaper than say bottled water, which we gladly pay a buck for and don't bat an eye. Amazingly their profits are around 6%, and rank only 114th in terms of margins. Far less than say the beverage industry (ranked 19th) with a 16% margin.

I just seem to notice the dent in my wallet more when I put 70 bucks of fuel in my car.

(06-12-2013 07:08 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 05:48 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I have stock in Marathon, mostly because I like how they run their Speedway stores. The stock has done nothing in 2 years.

Maybe you need to have your broker investigated, CD?

That would be me. Scottrade, $7 a trade

Hard not to have taken some profits the way the market has been the last year, but in Marathon's case, I think I bought it at $32 and it has never gone higher than $34.

(06-12-2013 07:10 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 06:18 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  Marathon is too busy trafficking petroleum coke in SW Detroit for the Koch brothers.

On the other hand they do produce a product that we all need and it's cheaper than say bottled water, which we gladly pay a buck for and don't bat an eye. Amazingly their profits are around 6%, and rank only 114th in terms of margins. Far less than say the beverage industry (ranked 19th) with a 16% margin.

I just seem to notice the dent in my wallet more when I put 70 bucks of fuel in my car.

You really have no clue to what petroleum coke is, do you? Of course not. The fact that the Kochs' are hoarding cubic tons of one of the most toxic byproducts and wastes of tar sands processing in some Detroit dumping ground, with the proceeds draining into the land and into the Detroit River, why that can't just bother you because gas is cheaper than bottled water.

You are a sick, sick man, not that we weren't aware of that already.

Gee, and we were told all those years that if we loosened our drilling regulations that the oil extracted would lower prices world wide. Now we're one of the worlds largest producers and the prices have gone up due to WORLD MARKET DEMANDS.

How'd that kool aid taste? Did you guys really believe that oil extracted here would be exclusively for the US and not part of the world cartel?

(06-12-2013 09:03 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 07:10 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(06-12-2013 06:18 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  Marathon is too busy trafficking petroleum coke in SW Detroit for the Koch brothers.

On the other hand they do produce a product that we all need and it's cheaper than say bottled water, which we gladly pay a buck for and don't bat an eye. Amazingly their profits are around 6%, and rank only 114th in terms of margins. Far less than say the beverage industry (ranked 19th) with a 16% margin.

I just seem to notice the dent in my wallet more when I put 70 bucks of fuel in my car.

You really have no clue to what petroleum coke is, do you? Of course not. The fact that the Kochs' are hoarding cubic tons of one of the most toxic byproducts and wastes of tar sands processing in some Detroit dumping ground, with the proceeds draining into the land and into the Detroit River, why that can't just bother you because gas is cheaper than bottled water.

You are a sick, sick man, not that we weren't aware of that already.

Conspiracy nut alert

Charm aka Unibomber II

Quote:You really have no clue to what petroleum coke is, do you? Of course not. The fact that the Kochs' are hoarding cubic tons of one of the most toxic byproducts and wastes of tar sands processing in some Detroit dumping ground, with the proceeds draining into the land and into the Detroit River, why that can't just bother you because gas is cheaper than bottled water.

You are a sick, sick man, not that we weren't aware of that already.

Sent from my Trac phone, that I wish was an Iphone, in my tar paper shack in Baltimore

Okay Ted Kazinski, let me get your little story straight. The hated Koch Brothers, who the left would destroy in a hot second if they could, are harboring toxic tar sands at a secret location in Detroit and you know about this, but the left leaning EPA, who would love to take them down as well, are completely in the dark about this toxic tar wasteland?????? Great story man. I knew you had a comedic side to you, Keep'em coming

Hey Charm have you heard this one. Sadam Hussein secretly buried the weapons of mass destruction underneath Ft. McHenry, just up the road from your tar paper shack. I suggest you get up there and start digging.

Here we go again. Gas prices hitting $3.85 per gallon in Grand Rapids. At the start of the week it was $.40 less. Unreal.