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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-11-2013 04:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: These bowls will all be dumpster fires. Nobody is traveling to Dubai or Burmuda to see AAC also rans take on Sunbelt also rans. Find a few suitable stadiums with decent weather in areas that are within driving distances of a lot of G5 schools. These are junk bowls that people will maybe be willing to drive to. These things will likley be empty unless they are very close---they will be ghost towns if they cost any significant amount of money to attend. The only ones who will care will be the fans of the Sunbelt of MAC team that used to sit home in the past but now get to go to a bowl. I doubt the AAC teams stuck in these bowls are going to travel very well. Im afraid these AAC fansbases are no longer going to have much motivation to show up at this point.
Yeah my days of going to bowl games are probably coming to an end. I've been to a few of these dog games like the 1 in Birmingham and at RFK (even though both were actually against AQ teams) and they just aren't worth the time or money. I'd rather pick 1 or 2 quality ECU road games a year to go to instead of spending twice as much money to go see a bowl game against an opponent I don't give a damn about seeing ECU play. I'll probably donate bowl tickets just because I do understand it looks bad if ECU stops selling a lot of bowl tickets, but I'm not going to waste anymore time or money going to watch crap in a crap location on a crap date.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
If they want to start up a bowl game outside of the country then maybe they should consider Cancun Mexico. That would a fun place to go.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-11-2013 04:01 PM)brista21 Wrote: The Bahamas are a legit destination for a bowl game. No different than going to Florida. That being said do they have a venue capable there?
Except that you can drive to Florida
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-12-2013 10:31 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (06-11-2013 04:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: These bowls will all be dumpster fires. Nobody is traveling to Dubai or Burmuda to see AAC also rans take on Sunbelt also rans. Find a few suitable stadiums with decent weather in areas that are within driving distances of a lot of G5 schools. These are junk bowls that people will maybe be willing to drive to. These things will likley be empty unless they are very close---they will be ghost towns if they cost any significant amount of money to attend. The only ones who will care will be the fans of the Sunbelt of MAC team that used to sit home in the past but now get to go to a bowl. I doubt the AAC teams stuck in these bowls are going to travel very well. Im afraid these AAC fansbases are no longer going to have much motivation to show up at this point.
Yeah my days of going to bowl games are probably coming to an end. I've been to a few of these dog games like the 1 in Birmingham and at RFK (even though both were actually against AQ teams) and they just aren't worth the time or money. I'd rather pick 1 or 2 quality ECU road games a year to go to instead of spending twice as much money to go see a bowl game against an opponent I don't give a damn about seeing ECU play. I'll probably donate bowl tickets just because I do understand it looks bad if ECU stops selling a lot of bowl tickets, but I'm not going to waste anymore time or money going to watch crap in a crap location on a crap date.
Bowl games usually blow. Been to the Capital One and Outback the last two years against traditional power teams. Probably wouldn't go again and I only went because I had a sister that lived between Orlando and Tampa and because I came into some last minute tickets.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
Dubai would be one where schools could make money actually. Knowing the wealth behind a game in Dubai, they would pay for travel expenses and it would be a sell out. They are used to putting on major events already and want American sporting events.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-13-2013 07:59 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote: Dubai would be one where schools could make money actually. Knowing the wealth behind a game in Dubai, they would pay for travel expenses and it would be a sell out. They are used to putting on major events already and want American sporting events.
Army is supposed to participate in these International Bowls. My theory is Dubai would be good for serviceman in the Middle East and give them a bowl game they can travel to.
All the G5 are supposed to participate in what looks like a set of international games (Dubai, Ireland, Bahamas), perhaps taking their conference champions that don't qualify for a CFP Access Bowl.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-13-2013 07:59 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote: Dubai would be one where schools could make money actually. Knowing the wealth behind a game in Dubai, they would pay for travel expenses and it would be a sell out. They are used to putting on major events already and want American sporting events.
Yes...and none of your fans are there. Schools are better off sticking with the ones that pay for thier seats 8 home games a year--especially if we are talking about sending a top team. If its a pair and 6-6 also rans, then, I still think its dumb, but I guess you could look at it as a crappy version of the Hawaii Bowl.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-14-2013 10:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (06-13-2013 07:59 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote: Dubai would be one where schools could make money actually. Knowing the wealth behind a game in Dubai, they would pay for travel expenses and it would be a sell out. They are used to putting on major events already and want American sporting events.
Yes...and none of your fans are there. Schools are better off sticking with the ones that pay for thier seats 8 home games a year--especially if we are talking about sending a top team. If its a pair and 6-6 also rans, then, I still think its dumb, but I guess you could look at it as a crappy version of the Hawaii Bowl.
I don't think it would be the bottom teams among the G5 that would be rotating in and out of the international games but the top.
Especially if Army and BYU are involved. Both would be attractive matchups for the SBC or MAC champion.
1) Army (or at-large)
2) BYU (or at-large)
3) Boise State
4) Tulsa
5) La Tech
6) Arkansas State
You could get a game like BYU-Ark State in Ireland or Boise-Army in Dubai. If Fresno State wins the MWC then Fresno-Army with Boise in the Las Vegas Bowl.
Its rare to see a G5 win its league every year so there would be good rotation involved.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-11-2013 03:03 PM)bluesox Wrote: Bermuda triangle bowl, what could go wrong?
People will disappear, probably be dead.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-12-2013 10:31 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (06-11-2013 04:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: These bowls will all be dumpster fires. Nobody is traveling to Dubai or Burmuda to see AAC also rans take on Sunbelt also rans. Find a few suitable stadiums with decent weather in areas that are within driving distances of a lot of G5 schools. These are junk bowls that people will maybe be willing to drive to. These things will likley be empty unless they are very close---they will be ghost towns if they cost any significant amount of money to attend. The only ones who will care will be the fans of the Sunbelt of MAC team that used to sit home in the past but now get to go to a bowl. I doubt the AAC teams stuck in these bowls are going to travel very well. Im afraid these AAC fansbases are no longer going to have much motivation to show up at this point.
Yeah my days of going to bowl games are probably coming to an end. I've been to a few of these dog games like the 1 in Birmingham and at RFK (even though both were actually against AQ teams) and they just aren't worth the time or money. I'd rather pick 1 or 2 quality ECU road games a year to go to instead of spending twice as much money to go see a bowl game against an opponent I don't give a damn about seeing ECU play. I'll probably donate bowl tickets just because I do understand it looks bad if ECU stops selling a lot of bowl tickets, but I'm not going to waste anymore time or money going to watch crap in a crap location on a crap date.
When I think of College Football, I think of the heat of September-October and tailgating in shorts, soaking in the atmosphere of College Football. Most of our Bowl options are going to suck going forward so I will continue to enjoy the regular season. I will say the post season for me is usually about linking up with ECU friends for a road trip so if it is a half way decent bowl then I will go and as usual donate tickets to students so they can go.
TV contracts are killing some bowl attendance with bad dates that make it inconvenient and expensive for fans to travel when they can just sit at home and watch the games. Mid week games before Christmas are just idiotic. Some of the bowl match ups have also grown stale and fans have made these trips over and over so they decide to just stay home and save money.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
Teams end up going to the same bowls, playing against the same teams, same conferences. They need to figure out how to switch that up. And coming up with a bowl game in Dubai is not a good way to do it.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-15-2013 09:04 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Teams end up going to the same bowls, playing against the same teams, same conferences. They need to figure out how to switch that up. And coming up with a bowl game in Dubai is not a good way to do it.
Scrap all conference tie ins to bowls and select the teams based upon new, more interesting (less often, less stale) matchups.
It won't happen, though. But, that would do the trick, I think.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-15-2013 12:13 PM)TerryD Wrote: (06-15-2013 09:04 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Teams end up going to the same bowls, playing against the same teams, same conferences. They need to figure out how to switch that up. And coming up with a bowl game in Dubai is not a good way to do it.
Scrap all conference tie ins to bowls and select the teams based upon new, more interesting (less often, less stale) matchups.
It won't happen, though. But, that would do the trick, I think.
Yeah, they need to do something. The way this is shaking out with everyone just playing against 4 other conferences is going to lead to more bowl fatigue than ever. Now its the same places AND the same opponents.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-15-2013 09:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (06-15-2013 12:13 PM)TerryD Wrote: (06-15-2013 09:04 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Teams end up going to the same bowls, playing against the same teams, same conferences. They need to figure out how to switch that up. And coming up with a bowl game in Dubai is not a good way to do it.
Scrap all conference tie ins to bowls and select the teams based upon new, more interesting (less often, less stale) matchups.
It won't happen, though. But, that would do the trick, I think.
Yeah, they need to do something. The way this is shaking out with everyone just playing against 4 other conferences is going to lead to more bowl fatigue than ever. Now its the same places AND the same opponents.
Not sure I agree. How many decades in a row was the Rose Bowl a success between the PAC and Big? Living on the west coast, i can say that the only other conference that the PAC fans cared to watch was the Big because they were interested in who their team may have to face in the Rose Bowl. Was a great way to get west coast viewers to watch the Big Ten games earlier in the day on Saturdays. If not for the Rose Bowl being exclusive to the PAC and Big then that would not have been the case. Bowl Fatigue is overstated. Tradition trumps it.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
Outside of the Rose Bowl, every other bowl game has thrown history to the dogs in the chase for money. Even bowl games names have been given up for money. The Rose Bowl is the only bowl that has kept its history intact. The rest, not so much...
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-16-2013 09:43 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: Outside of the Rose Bowl, every other bowl game has thrown history to the dogs in the chase for money. Even bowl games names have been given up for money. The Rose Bowl is the only bowl that has kept its history intact. The rest, not so much...
Exactly. I'm seeing zero similarities in tradition between the Rose Bowl and a 6-6 MAC team playing a 6-6 CUSA team in Dubai.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-15-2013 09:31 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote: (06-15-2013 09:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (06-15-2013 12:13 PM)TerryD Wrote: (06-15-2013 09:04 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Teams end up going to the same bowls, playing against the same teams, same conferences. They need to figure out how to switch that up. And coming up with a bowl game in Dubai is not a good way to do it.
Scrap all conference tie ins to bowls and select the teams based upon new, more interesting (less often, less stale) matchups.
It won't happen, though. But, that would do the trick, I think.
Yeah, they need to do something. The way this is shaking out with everyone just playing against 4 other conferences is going to lead to more bowl fatigue than ever. Now its the same places AND the same opponents.
Not sure I agree. How many decades in a row was the Rose Bowl a success between the PAC and Big? Living on the west coast, i can say that the only other conference that the PAC fans cared to watch was the Big because they were interested in who their team may have to face in the Rose Bowl. Was a great way to get west coast viewers to watch the Big Ten games earlier in the day on Saturdays. If not for the Rose Bowl being exclusive to the PAC and Big then that would not have been the case. Bowl Fatigue is overstated. Tradition trumps it.
I agree with the esteemed Redhawk/Redskin fan, at least for big bowls. But for lower bowls, there isn't much tradition to go on. May as well shake things up for the lower bowls to keep them interesting.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
Yep concentrate a lot of Americans in a small area in the middle east. Great idea.
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
Actually I would go to a bowl game in Puerto Rico. It's no different than flying to the Beef O Brady's bowl for a lot of people. Unless your in that group of people who refuse to fly anywhere.
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06-18-2013 07:40 AM |
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RE: Ireland, Dubai or the Bahamas may be hosting bowl games
(06-18-2013 07:40 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote: Actually I would go to a bowl game in Puerto Rico. It's no different than flying to the Beef O Brady's bowl for a lot of people. Unless your in that group of people who refuse to fly anywhere.
Never understood why Puerto Rico hasn't gotten traction. No passport hassles there.
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