With all the realignment and quick changes, I thought it might be good to look at how exactly this is going to effect schedules.

Below you'll see a percent for teams under football and basketball. For football that's how often teams play each other. For basketball, it's how often they play a home and home in a year.

Note: I think my math is right on all of these, but feel free to correct if it looks off.

ACC
Football:
7 teams (6 in division and 1 locked crossover): play 100% of the time
6 teams: play 17% of the time

Basketball: (percent is how often they play teams twice a year)
2 teams: 100%
12 teams: 17%

Big Ten
Football (everyone but Indiana and Purdue):
6 teams: 100%
6 teams: 45%
1 team (Indiana or Purdue): 29%

Football (for Purdue/Indiana):
7 teams (division teams and Indiana/Purdue): 100%
6 teams: 29%

Basketball
13 teams: 39%

Big 12
Football
9 teams: 100%

Basketball
9 teams: 100%

PAC-12
Football (non-California schools)
5 teams: 100%
4 teams: 75%
2 teams (California teams in other division): 50%

Football (California schools)
7 teams (divisions teams and other two California teams): 100%
4 teams: 50%

Basketball
1 team (locked rival): 100%
10 teams: 60%

SEC
Football
7 teams (6 in division and 1 locked crossover): 100%
6 teams: 17%

Basketball
1 team: 100%
12 teams: 33%

(06-06-2013 12:50 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Big 12
Football
9 teams: 100%

Basketball
9 teams: 100%

Are you sure about the math here?

I think the lack of home and home with basketball is no big deal, except for the strongest of rivalries. Don't really care what the % is there. I think anything less than 33% is too infrequent for football, though. 17% is just too low, IMO.

How did you get 17% for the ACC again?

(06-06-2013 11:47 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  How did you get 17% for the ACC again?

6 of the teams in the opposite division you play every 6 years. 1/6 equals 17%.

If the ACC went with a 9 game conference schedule, it would jump up to 33% for those other 6 teams. I think that is much more reasonable.

(06-06-2013 12:32 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:47 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  How did you get 17% for the ACC again?

6 of the teams in the opposite division you play every 6 years. 1/6 equals 17%.

Yep. It's actually 16.66666....%, but I figured a little rounding was OK

Agree that going to 9 conference games would help. Problem is that with the locked out of conference rivalries in the ACC, there's really no good solution once you get to 14. The Big Ten basically had to add a conference game and get rid of all but one locked crossovers just to get to about the same frequency against the other division as in the 12 team format (it was 40% in the old set-up, which was slightly less for most the other division, but higher for Indiana/Purdue).

Going through the number though, I'm kind of envious of the Big 12. I'd call them the perfect set-up.

(06-06-2013 01:23 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Going through the number though, I'm kind of envious of the Big 12. I'd call them the perfect set-up.

So would I...

The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

(06-06-2013 01:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

(06-06-2013 11:22 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  I think the lack of home and home with basketball is no big deal, except for the strongest of rivalries. Don't really care what the % is there. I think anything less than 33% is too infrequent for football, though. 17% is just too low, IMO.

Wait...the Big XII has 10 teams and DOESN'T do home and home? Wow.

(06-06-2013 01:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

(06-06-2013 12:50 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  With all the realignment and quick changes, I thought it might be good to look at how exactly this is going to effect schedules.

Below you'll see a percent for teams under football and basketball. For football that's how often teams play each other. For basketball, it's how often they play a home and home in a year.

Note: I think my math is right on all of these, but feel free to correct if it looks off.

ACC
Football:
7 teams (6 in division and 1 locked crossover): play 100% of the time
6 teams: play 17% of the time

Basketball: (percent is how often they play teams twice a year)
2 teams: 100%
12 teams: 17%

Big Ten
Football (everyone but Indiana and Purdue):
6 teams: 100%
6 teams: 45%
1 team (Indiana or Purdue): 29%

Football (for Purdue/Indiana):
7 teams (division teams and Indiana/Purdue): 100%
6 teams: 29%

Basketball
13 teams: 39%

Big 12
Football
9 teams: 100%

Basketball
9 teams: 100%

PAC-12
Football (non-California schools)
5 teams: 100%
4 teams: 75%
2 teams (California teams in other division): 50%

Football (California schools)
7 teams (divisions teams and other two California teams): 100%
4 teams: 50%

Basketball
1 team (locked rival): 100%
10 teams: 60%

SEC
Football
7 teams (6 in division and 1 locked crossover): 100%
6 teams: 17%

Basketball
1 team: 100%
12 teams: 33%

You left out the Big East who has 10 teams and plays a round robin schedule.

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

(06-06-2013 02:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:54 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  The AAC is a power conference in everything other than football

Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

They have a legit BBall lineup and their FB conference is much deeper than just Boise. Watch out for Fresno this season along with Utah St and SD St. Boise might not even be in the inaugural FB championship game.

(06-06-2013 03:21 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 01:57 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Without any history to back it up, that remains to be seen. But you'll have the chance to prove it one way or the other soon enough...

Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

They have a legit BBall lineup and their FB conference is much deeper than just Boise. Watch out for Fresno this season along with Utah St and SD St. Boise might not even be in the inaugural FB championship game.

Utah St. had one good year. Their bball got knocked out tourney time, doubt they get that many in ever again. The AAC has Memphis, UConn, Cincy, Temple, top flight recruiting classes in SMU and Houston, and ECU/UCF are on the cusp.

(06-06-2013 03:49 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:21 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

They have a legit BBall lineup and their FB conference is much deeper than just Boise. Watch out for Fresno this season along with Utah St and SD St. Boise might not even be in the inaugural FB championship game.

Utah St. had one good year. Their bball got knocked out tourney time, doubt they get that many in ever again. The AAC has Memphis, UConn, Cincy, Temple, top flight recruiting classes in SMU and Houston, and ECU/UCF are on the cusp.

Uh I was talking about FB when i mentioned those teams. Also didn't memphis almost get knocked out the first round? I know Cincy did. Also no way can you poo poo the MWC BBall then throw out ECU, UCF, SMU and Houston.

(06-06-2013 03:49 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:21 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:07 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Maybe not history together, but each school has the history to back that up

I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

They have a legit BBall lineup and their FB conference is much deeper than just Boise. Watch out for Fresno this season along with Utah St and SD St. Boise might not even be in the inaugural FB championship game.

Utah St. had one good year. Their bball got knocked out tourney time, doubt they get that many in ever again. The AAC has Memphis, UConn, Cincy, Temple, top flight recruiting classes in SMU and Houston, and ECU/UCF are on the cusp.

As a conference the AAC has earned nothing, and past history has no bearing on the matter. The BEast was in the same position after the first ACC raid, when Miami, VT, and BC bailed on the conference. Most of the nation thought that without Miami and VT The BEast would lose its BCS bid in no time flat, and if WVU hadn't beaten Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl it might have happened. But WVU and Louisville won 3 straight BCS bowl games, proving The BEast best days were far from over...

The AAC is now under the same gun, and talking about past history won't change that. You guys will need to prove you can win on the big stage before the conference will get any respect from the nation's media...

(06-06-2013 04:32 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:49 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:21 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 02:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  I'm with Bit, you guys will need to earn your place in the new conference landscape. The MWC is really pushing to be the top GoF conference.

you mean Boise is pushing

They have a legit BBall lineup and their FB conference is much deeper than just Boise. Watch out for Fresno this season along with Utah St and SD St. Boise might not even be in the inaugural FB championship game.

Utah St. had one good year. Their bball got knocked out tourney time, doubt they get that many in ever again. The AAC has Memphis, UConn, Cincy, Temple, top flight recruiting classes in SMU and Houston, and ECU/UCF are on the cusp.

As a conference the AAC has earned nothing, and past history has no bearing on the matter. The BEast was in the same position after the first ACC raid, when Miami, VT, and BC bailed on the conference. Most of the nation thought that without Miami and VT The BEast would lose its BCS bid in no time flat, and if WVU hadn't beaten Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl it might have happened. But WVU and Louisville won 3 straight BCS bowl games, proving The BEast best days were far from over...

The AAC is now under the same gun, and talking about past history won't change that. You guys will need to prove you can win on the big stage before the conference will get any respect from the nation's media...

Exactly! They need UCF to win the league and then win a BCS bowl.

(06-06-2013 02:05 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:22 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  I think the lack of home and home with basketball is no big deal, except for the strongest of rivalries. Don't really care what the % is there. I think anything less than 33% is too infrequent for football, though. 17% is just too low, IMO.

Wait...the Big XII has 10 teams and DOESN'T do home and home? Wow.

The Big 12 does have home and home. I was referring to the numbers for the other leagues. I don't think it is a big deal to not have home and homes in basketball.