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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

Wrong. NCAA already rejected their request for a CCG, with a 10 team conference. End of story, regardless how the Big XII feels about it. Maybe if you hold your breath they'll change their minds. 03-phew
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 05:58 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

Wrong. NCAA already rejected their request for a CCG, with a 10 team conference. End of story, regardless how the Big XII feels about it. Maybe if you hold your breath they'll change their minds. 03-phew
Do you have a link for that assertion? I didn't think so.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 05:33 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 02:46 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 01:52 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 08:21 AM)lew240z Wrote:  Texoma is not going to the PAC. The only school of the four that the PAC wants is Texas. OU would be acceptable. The others are baggage. If the proposal is to create east and west divisions with the original PAC8 ind the west an Texoma in the east with AU, ASU, CU and UU, those four schools have enough votes to block it.

Texas does not want to be in the PAC. They have had 3 opportunities and refused all 3. Texas has said they do not want to be in a conference with schools two time zones to the west. The only reason Texas took a look at other conferences in 2010 was the thought the Big 12 would collapse when Nebraska left. The preferred destination at that time was the ACC. When Texas discovered that the Big 12 might survive, they worked very hard to make it so. After David Boren tried to coerce them into the PAC in 2011, Texas slapped his face so hard Boren still has bruises.
Tell me what other "Baggage" options the PAC 12 has to choose from now... I think if they can get Texas and Oklahoma, they will take the the four. It's all hangs on Texas and making some concessions. I would love it as I really want WVU in the SEC.

Maybe he is hoping that Wyoming will take the place of either Texas Tech or Oklahoma St. I'm sure the PAC would love that.05-nono

The PAC 12 has no need to expand. Texas is the only school they are interested in, and that won't happen.

Wyoming is fine where they are.

I guess Larry Scott flying to Lubbock was just make believe. You are right, the PAC doesn't to expand right now. Same thing with the Big 12. Who knows what will happen in the next 10 years though. UT might get tired of AAC schools constantly begging for a spot in the Big 12 and say screw it, we're headed west. With the Texoma 4 in the PAC, just think how much money everyone would make from that association.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

If the NCAA wouldn't allow the B1G to do it until they expanded, I don't see them giving into the Big XII.
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(05-31-2013 06:33 PM)CheeseSndwch Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

If the NCAA wouldn't allow the B1G to do it until they expanded, I don't see them giving into the Big XII.

No no no, common sense isn't in play here. He wants a definitive answer to his question, even after he's done a google search that shows only the submittal of the waiver. He takes that to mean it will be approved. Let him finish his Kool Aid. He'll see soon enough. LOL. Gotta love Jayhawk fans.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 07:23 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:33 PM)CheeseSndwch Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

If the NCAA wouldn't allow the B1G to do it until they expanded, I don't see them giving into the Big XII.

No no no, common sense isn't in play here. He wants a definitive answer to his question, even after he's done a google search that shows only the submittal of the waiver. He takes that to mean it will be approved. Let him finish his Kool Aid. He'll see soon enough. LOL. Gotta love Jayhawk fans.
Provide a definitive answer and I shut up. Not a hard concept.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 07:31 PM)Groo Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:23 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:33 PM)CheeseSndwch Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

If the NCAA wouldn't allow the B1G to do it until they expanded, I don't see them giving into the Big XII.

No no no, common sense isn't in play here. He wants a definitive answer to his question, even after he's done a google search that shows only the submittal of the waiver. He takes that to mean it will be approved. Let him finish his Kool Aid. He'll see soon enough. LOL. Gotta love Jayhawk fans.
Provide a definitive answer and I shut up. Not a hard concept.

The Big 12 was denied a waiver for a CCG. at 10 teams. We have to expand to 12 if we want a CCG.
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Kansas fans make me go a big rubbery one.
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 08:33 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:31 PM)Groo Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:23 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:33 PM)CheeseSndwch Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

If the NCAA wouldn't allow the B1G to do it until they expanded, I don't see them giving into the Big XII.

No no no, common sense isn't in play here. He wants a definitive answer to his question, even after he's done a google search that shows only the submittal of the waiver. He takes that to mean it will be approved. Let him finish his Kool Aid. He'll see soon enough. LOL. Gotta love Jayhawk fans.
Provide a definitive answer and I shut up. Not a hard concept.

The Big 12 was denied a waiver for a CCG. at 10 teams. We have to expand to 12 if we want a CCG.

Thanks JML.

I'd have found the article but Groo obviously already knew the answer while he was asking the question (whoops!). 01-wingedeagle
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RE: Big 12 needs a championship game
(05-31-2013 06:23 PM)Groo Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:58 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 05:37 PM)Groo Wrote:  If the Big 12 needs a CCG, it should be able to to have one with its current 10 member lineup.

Wrong. NCAA already rejected their request for a CCG, with a 10 team conference. End of story, regardless how the Big XII feels about it. Maybe if you hold your breath they'll change their minds. 03-phew
Do you have a link for that assertion? I didn't think so.
He's correct here... haven't seen any approvals.
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