(05-20-2013 02:57 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:26 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:10 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 01:41 PM)Underdog Wrote:  It would..... Maybe not ever year, but it would play for a MAC champ most years. Moreover, place NIU in the former Big East before the ACC, B1G, and B12 raids and guess where it would finish?

It would play for a division title every year, like about 3 other teams in each division. How can you even assume any more? Who from the MAC has Syracuse played lately? Mostly Akron, Buffalo, and Miami, none of whom have been among the better MAC teams in recent years, and Akron and Buffalo have been basement MAC teams. And 1 3-pt win over UT at home including a ridiculous call on a FG. And Toledo didn't win the MAC West even that year.

NIU wouldn't have done as well in the Big East of old, but Syracuse didn't fare too well either.

For the record, in the Big East of Old, Syracuse finished 5 seasons between 1993 and 2001 at 6-1 in conference, winning the conference title outright twice, sharing it twice, and finishing second to an undefeated NC Miami in 2001 (perhaps the single greatest team of all time), our last great season. In those 9 seasons we finished less than .500 in conference twice, both times with a 3-4 record. After Miami, we were the unquestioned 2nd best team of the conference during this time, edging out VT which really came into the conversation of 2nd best team in the league starting in 1999.

Cheers,
Neil

Ah, I wasn't going back that far. The question of Syracuse dominating the MAC hypothetically implied the current state of affairs, so I only looked at the recent years. Also, we don't know how NIU would do, as we rarely play anyone from the Big East.

thanks for the clarification. When a BE football fan thinks about the BE of Old, it's Miami, SU, VT, WVU, BC, and Pitt.

Cheers,
Neil

We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, and it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

(05-21-2013 09:36 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:57 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:26 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:10 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  It would play for a division title every year, like about 3 other teams in each division. How can you even assume any more? Who from the MAC has Syracuse played lately? Mostly Akron, Buffalo, and Miami, none of whom have been among the better MAC teams in recent years, and Akron and Buffalo have been basement MAC teams. And 1 3-pt win over UT at home including a ridiculous call on a FG. And Toledo didn't win the MAC West even that year.

NIU wouldn't have done as well in the Big East of old, but Syracuse didn't fare too well either.

For the record, in the Big East of Old, Syracuse finished 5 seasons between 1993 and 2001 at 6-1 in conference, winning the conference title outright twice, sharing it twice, and finishing second to an undefeated NC Miami in 2001 (perhaps the single greatest team of all time), our last great season. In those 9 seasons we finished less than .500 in conference twice, both times with a 3-4 record. After Miami, we were the unquestioned 2nd best team of the conference during this time, edging out VT which really came into the conversation of 2nd best team in the league starting in 1999.

Cheers,
Neil

Ah, I wasn't going back that far. The question of Syracuse dominating the MAC hypothetically implied the current state of affairs, so I only looked at the recent years. Also, we don't know how NIU would do, as we rarely play anyone from the Big East.

thanks for the clarification. When a BE football fan thinks about the BE of Old, it's Miami, SU, VT, WVU, BC, and Pitt.

Cheers,
Neil

We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

LOL.

(05-21-2013 09:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:36 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:57 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:26 PM)omniorange Wrote:  For the record, in the Big East of Old, Syracuse finished 5 seasons between 1993 and 2001 at 6-1 in conference, winning the conference title outright twice, sharing it twice, and finishing second to an undefeated NC Miami in 2001 (perhaps the single greatest team of all time), our last great season. In those 9 seasons we finished less than .500 in conference twice, both times with a 3-4 record. After Miami, we were the unquestioned 2nd best team of the conference during this time, edging out VT which really came into the conversation of 2nd best team in the league starting in 1999.

Cheers,
Neil

Ah, I wasn't going back that far. The question of Syracuse dominating the MAC hypothetically implied the current state of affairs, so I only looked at the recent years. Also, we don't know how NIU would do, as we rarely play anyone from the Big East.

thanks for the clarification. When a BE football fan thinks about the BE of Old, it's Miami, SU, VT, WVU, BC, and Pitt.

Cheers,
Neil

We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

LOL.

31-1

(05-21-2013 09:43 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:36 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:57 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Ah, I wasn't going back that far. The question of Syracuse dominating the MAC hypothetically implied the current state of affairs, so I only looked at the recent years. Also, we don't know how NIU would do, as we rarely play anyone from the Big East.

thanks for the clarification. When a BE football fan thinks about the BE of Old, it's Miami, SU, VT, WVU, BC, and Pitt.

Cheers,
Neil

We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

LOL.

31-1

NIU beat WMU, which beat UConn, which beat Louisville. So NIU would have been at the top of your conference based on that logic. Matter of fact we're both better than Alabama then.

NIU beat WMU which beat UConn which beat Louisville which beat Florida which beat Texas A&M which beat Alabama. Yay! We're #1!

(05-21-2013 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:43 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:36 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-20-2013 02:57 PM)omniorange Wrote:  thanks for the clarification. When a BE football fan thinks about the BE of Old, it's Miami, SU, VT, WVU, BC, and Pitt.

Cheers,
Neil

We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

LOL.

31-1

NIU beat WMU, which beat UConn, which beat Louisville. So NIU would have been at the top of your conference based on that logic. Matter of fact we're both better than Alabama then.

NIU beat WMU which beat UConn which beat Louisville which beat Florida which beat Texas A&M which beat Alabama. Yay! We're #1!

The loss to FSU doesn't diminish the excellent season NIU had. Moreover, I was actually rooting for NIU to upset FSU because all of the so called "college football experts" didn't think NIU belonged and didn’t give it a chance to win.

Btw... Syracuse destroyed UCONN 40-10...so we're back where we started....

(05-21-2013 10:00 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:43 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:36 AM)Underdog Wrote:  We can go back to last year.... Syracuse beat Louisville 45-36. Louisville beat Florida 33-23. Florida beat FSU 37-26. Moreover, FSU beat NIU 31-10. Therefore, place last year's Syracuse team in the MAC, it would have been playing FSU instead of NIU....

LOL.

31-1

NIU beat WMU, which beat UConn, which beat Louisville. So NIU would have been at the top of your conference based on that logic. Matter of fact we're both better than Alabama then.

NIU beat WMU which beat UConn which beat Louisville which beat Florida which beat Texas A&M which beat Alabama. Yay! We're #1!

The loss to FSU doesn't diminish the excellent season NIU had. Moreover, I was actually rooting for NIU to upset FSU because all of the so called "college football experts" didn't think NIU belonged and didn’t give it a chance to win.

Btw... Syracuse destroyed UCONN 40-10...so we're back where we started....

Great, so I have to find another string of transitive property wins then? :-)

Thanks for rooting for us. Results were not great but oh well. At least they were in the game for most of it. They weren't losing by a lot at halftime like some of the other BCS games.

(05-21-2013 10:16 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 10:00 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:43 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:37 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  LOL.

31-1

NIU beat WMU, which beat UConn, which beat Louisville. So NIU would have been at the top of your conference based on that logic. Matter of fact we're both better than Alabama then.

NIU beat WMU which beat UConn which beat Louisville which beat Florida which beat Texas A&M which beat Alabama. Yay! We're #1!

The loss to FSU doesn't diminish the excellent season NIU had. Moreover, I was actually rooting for NIU to upset FSU because all of the so called "college football experts" didn't think NIU belonged and didn’t give it a chance to win.

Btw... Syracuse destroyed UCONN 40-10...so we're back where we started....

Great, so I have to find another string of transitive property wins then? :-)

Thanks for rooting for us. Results were not great but oh well. At least they were in the game for most of it. They weren't losing by a lot at halftime like some of the other BCS games.

NIU has the great satisfaction of being among the few mid-major schools that has played in a BCS bowl.

(05-21-2013 10:23 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 10:16 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 10:00 AM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-21-2013 09:43 AM)Underdog Wrote:  31-1

NIU beat WMU, which beat UConn, which beat Louisville. So NIU would have been at the top of your conference based on that logic. Matter of fact we're both better than Alabama then.

NIU beat WMU which beat UConn which beat Louisville which beat Florida which beat Texas A&M which beat Alabama. Yay! We're #1!

The loss to FSU doesn't diminish the excellent season NIU had. Moreover, I was actually rooting for NIU to upset FSU because all of the so called "college football experts" didn't think NIU belonged and didn’t give it a chance to win.

Btw... Syracuse destroyed UCONN 40-10...so we're back where we started....

Great, so I have to find another string of transitive property wins then? :-)

Thanks for rooting for us. Results were not great but oh well. At least they were in the game for most of it. They weren't losing by a lot at halftime like some of the other BCS games.

NIU has the great satisfaction of being among the few mid-major schools that has played in BCS bowls.

And we got lots of media attention after Kirk's meltdown on E$PN. Funniest thing is, if his alma mater had not cheated and been eligible we wouldn't have been there. LOL.