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That is a nice compliment.

Gee, you'd think an institution held in such high regard could manage to have a small football stadium. Weird.

A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

(05-16-2013 02:06 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

Dr. Cooper, I presume.

(05-16-2013 04:24 PM)TMcCarty Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 02:06 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

Dr. Cooper, I presume.

No, Max went from UAB to Emory Univ. The new Pres is Ricardo Azziz, who took over the Medical College of Georgia ( which also included Schools of Medicine, Dentistry, Nursing, Allied Health type sciences, Graduate Studies in biomedical type sciences). About 1 year later, the Board of Regents determined that it would be better if the Medical College of Georgia components were then combined with another Augusta landmark institution, Augusta State University (formerly Augusta College ). So voila,, you have a comprehensive University: GRU, which is very much like UAB.

I used to be an administrator in the Ga system. your friend has a very very tough job. The chancellor is the head of the system not a board member. GRU is a merger of the in disarray old medical college of Ga (third name in 3 years) and a historic black university. He is trying to calm down the city of Augusta because of the perceived loss of jobs

The medical college had tried to set up a place to train third year students in general practice(rural) around the state- UAB has several such sites. One of the three sites in GA was at UGA. UGA got the BOR to instead start a program that includes first year students So UGA is now starting a medical school. There is internationally known Emory and Mercer in Ga.

The BOT does screw us in athletics but at least so far they have not screwed UAB by starting a medical school at UAT. His school will have a very hard time getting state funding with UGA in the picture

(05-16-2013 02:06 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

Bean, you are partially correct but missed the mark on a few important details. Augusta College, most recently known as Augusta State University is not a historic black university (the school you are thinking of is Paine College (also in Augusta ) , but that school is not affiliated with the new GRU. On the other front, UGA is NOT starting a free-standing Medical School, but they are being allowed to participate in the education of some of the medical students that are enrolled at GRU. Also, GRU is setting up several clinical sites around the state for training of their medical students in addition to the main site in Augusta.

(05-16-2013 07:53 PM)uabbean Wrote:  I used to be an administrator in the Ga system. your friend has a very very tough job. The chancellor is the head of the system not a board member. GRU is a merger of the in disarray old medical college of Ga (third name in 3 years) and a historic black university. He is trying to calm down the city of Augusta because of the perceived loss of jobs

The medical college had tried to set up a place to train third year students in general practice(rural) around the state- UAB has several such sites. One of the three sites in GA was at UGA. UGA got the BOR to instead start a program that includes first year students So UGA is now starting a medical school. There is internationally known Emory and Mercer in Ga.

The BOT does screw us in athletics but at least so far they have not screwed UAB by starting a medical school at UAT. His school will have a very hard time getting state funding with UGA in the picture

(05-16-2013 02:06 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

I am sure you are right on the Augusta State I always get them mixed up with Savanah State. I just rememered merger talk with the JC and HBCs

Yes as of now - the 50 or so each year students that started as 1st year students a couple of years ago or so at UGA (are not yet separate) - but contrast that to the third year clinical sites as set up elsewhere around the state. My old Ga neighbor (on dental clinic faculty) smelled a rat and the GRU administrators were mad as hell. I willing to bet you that UGA gets what it wants. UGA controls the BORs and the legislature in GA (no Auburn offset)

(05-16-2013 08:35 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  Bean, you are partially correct but missed the mark on a few important details. Augusta College, most recently known as Augusta State University is not a historic black university (the school you are thinking of is Paine College (also in Augusta ) , but that school is not affiliated with the new GRU. On the other front, UGA is NOT starting a free-standing Medical School, but they are being allowed to participate in the education of some of the medical students that are enrolled at GRU. Also, GRU is setting up several clinical sites around the state for training of their medical students in addition to the main site in Augusta.

(05-16-2013 07:53 PM)uabbean Wrote:  I used to be an administrator in the Ga system. your friend has a very very tough job. The chancellor is the head of the system not a board member. GRU is a merger of the in disarray old medical college of Ga (third name in 3 years) and a historic black university. He is trying to calm down the city of Augusta because of the perceived loss of jobs

The medical college had tried to set up a place to train third year students in general practice(rural) around the state- UAB has several such sites. One of the three sites in GA was at UGA. UGA got the BOR to instead start a program that includes first year students So UGA is now starting a medical school. There is internationally known Emory and Mercer in Ga.

The BOT does screw us in athletics but at least so far they have not screwed UAB by starting a medical school at UAT. His school will have a very hard time getting state funding with UGA in the picture

(05-16-2013 02:06 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  A friend and former colleague of mine is now the President of that institution (GRU) and his vision for its future is founded largely on his experiences at UAB, which appears to be shared by a member of the Georgia Board of Regents, according to the article cited above.

I dunno, the CCHS at Tuscaloosa is as close to starting a medical school over there as you can get without doing it. Why isn't UA's medical center part of the UAB Health System? Why does the dean of the CCHS report to the President of UA? Nursing I understand because there's such a shortage in nursing education who cares, Huntsville does it too. But, in Medicine all the Huntsville stuff reports directly and only to Birmingham.

I know they wanted to drop the "State" from Augusta State, but Georgia Regents University is such a horrible name.

(05-17-2013 02:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I dunno, the CCHS at Tuscaloosa is as close to starting a medical school over there as you can get without doing it. Why isn't UA's medical center part of the UAB Health System? Why does the dean of the CCHS report to the President of UA? Nursing I understand because there's such a shortage in nursing education who cares, Huntsville does it too. But, in Medicine all the Huntsville stuff reports directly and only to Birmingham.

There have been rumblings of Tuscaloosa starting a Med School, which would be the ultimate knife in the back.

(05-17-2013 03:58 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(05-17-2013 02:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I dunno, the CCHS at Tuscaloosa is as close to starting a medical school over there as you can get without doing it. Why isn't UA's medical center part of the UAB Health System? Why does the dean of the CCHS report to the President of UA? Nursing I understand because there's such a shortage in nursing education who cares, Huntsville does it too. But, in Medicine all the Huntsville stuff reports directly and only to Birmingham.

There have been rumblings of Tuscaloosa starting a Med School, which would be the ultimate knife in the back.

First for the good news, unlike at UGA there are no 1st or 2nd year medical students at UAT. To understand CCHS, you need to look at history. In the late 60s early 70s Gov Wallace wanted more doctors for his rural base. He demanded that the SOM to expand say 75 doctors a year to be rural GPs. The SOM wanted to build a national research reputation - not be a training ground for rural doctors. UAB refused!!! As a result the legislature started both USA SOM and the CCHS in Tuscaloosa which both had the same initial mission to train rural doctors. CCHS has many national grants (thanks to senators Hill-Heflin-Shelby) and separate funding from the state. The UAB SOM has even administered some of these grants in Birmingham. Also UAB may have got lucky according to urban legend that said USA SOM was going to be at UAT but Druid city was feuding with the old northport hospital and mobile offered the new charity hospital for $10

Now for the bad news - I agree never trust the BORs. And Carol got the school of medicine rebranded as the UAB SOM but officially / legally both CCCH and the SOM are part of the University of Alabama SOM. (Just being little paranoid)

PS Neither UAB SOM nor CCCH are part of the UAB health system which is a separate entity

(05-18-2013 09:10 PM)uabbean Wrote:  PS Neither UAB SOM nor CCCH are part of the UAB health system which is a separate entity

Yes, but the UAB School of Medicine is marketed as part of UAB Medicine, the faculty practice in UAB Medicine, and the three parts (UAB SOM, UAB Hospital, UAHSF) work together as one even if they are separate.

CCHS doesn't, there is a medical center on the campus of UA that is not part of the UAB Health System at all. UA does not use Viva (health insurance company owned by UAB) at all for employee or student insurance. It's as if UAB does not exist down there.

Dr Aziz wants ASU/GRU to be a tech center in Georgia. The problem is, he is trying to do it without an Engineering school. UGA is starting one and Ga Southern is getting their accreditation. Going to be some stiff competition.

(05-21-2013 04:23 PM)BLAZR3 Wrote:  Dr Aziz wants ASU/GRU to be a tech center in Georgia. The problem is, he is trying to do it without an Engineering school. UGA is starting one and Ga Southern is getting their accreditation. Going to be some stiff competition.

Not sure where you got that slant on things but you dont have to have a school of Engineering to be "tech" related. The main engineering school in Georgia is Ga Tech. GRU already is heavy into the Biotech field due to its biological/biomedical sciences programs. Ga Southern will never be competition for GRU in the biomedical fields and UGA really doesnt even begin to compare to what is already in place in Augusta in the related disciplines.