(05-11-2013 09:39 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  A serious question here... What is the serious crush/obsession some UCF fans have with Rutgers?

Who the heck cares? Rutgers is here one more season and they certainly are not looking back. Heck, most of their fans don't care enough to even visit these boards any more. If this was a UCF matter (seems your head FB coach lied about having a degree once-upon-a-time too...) I really think the Rutgers fans wouldn't spend more than a second of thought about it.

What is the issue between UCF and Rutgers? Is it like the whole thing between "McDonalds" and "McDowells" in the movie "Coming to America"? "They've got the 'Golden Arches,' we've got the 'Golden Arcs.' They've got the 'Big Mac' and we've got the 'Big Mic'..." In the same way, Rutgers has the "Scarlet Knights" and you've got the "Golden Knights"???

Seriously, dude, get over it already.

At the end of the day, nobody but Rutgers and the coach made it an issue. They're in this league for one more year so it is relevant here.

Also, GOL did get a lot of crap for his resume issues. Why is it a shock to you people are calling out someone over the same thing? UCF people aren't nearly the only ones talking about this nor did they write any of the sports news stories. I don't get your point.

What are these mass amounts of stories posted by all of these UCF fans anyway? I'm really not seeing that. UCF is also not the "Golden Knights" by the way. Just Knights. That changed about 6-7 years ago.

I have zero issues with Rutgers. I wish they were staying in the AAC. Not sure why you think there is a Rutgers vs. UCF conversation. /shrug

(05-11-2013 11:18 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 09:56 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 09:39 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  A serious question here... What is the serious crush/obsession some UCF fans have with Rutgers?

Who the heck cares? Rutgers is here one more season and they certainly are not looking back. Heck, most of their fans don't care enough to even visit these boards any more. If this was a UCF matter (seems your head FB coach lied about having a degree once-upon-a-time too...) I really think the Rutgers fans wouldn't spend more than a second of thought about it.

What is the issue between UCF and Rutgers? Is it like the whole thing between "McDonalds" and "McDowells" in the movie "Coming to America"? "They've got the 'Golden Arches,' we've got the 'Golden Arcs.' They've got the 'Big Mac' and we've got the 'Big Mic'..." In the same way, Rutgers has the "Scarlet Knights" and you've got the "Golden Knights"???

Seriously, dude, get over it already.

I do see the irony here....a UCF fan running smack about a coach lying about his degree, considering their coach has been lying his whole career about just about everything.

UCF never helped the coach perpetuate that lie. Rutgers has stated several times that Jordan earned his degree, which means that Rutgers has lied. There's your difference

Other ways how O'Leary's situation was different:

1) Jordan did not earn an undergraduate degree...something both he and Rutgers said he had.

2) O'Leary did graduate with an undergraduate BS degree...he lied back in 1980 about earning a MBA degree (he took graduate classes but didn't earn a MBA).

3) While O'Leary did not attend classes at Notre Dame...Jordan did attend Rutgers, who obviously just hired him...so it would have taken Rutgers own staff about 5 secs to double check his bio/transcripts at their very own school...but its obvious that the committee/president didn't even do that.

So this is all about George O'Leary... Thanks. I thought it was about Rutgers and Eddie Jordan...

(05-11-2013 07:36 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 02:40 AM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  Lol he left a semester early because he went to the nba. Its always funny to see people trying to compare this and the rice thing to the penn state scandal it really helps show your stupidity.

Who mentioned PSU here? Do you dispute that the poor decision making in hiring of basketball coaches is a decades long tradition at Rutgers?

(05-10-2013 05:08 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Rutgers buried in lies and cover up again with head bb coach.....sounds familiar. Sounds like B1G material to me.....

Sounds like he was comparing it to psu iyam. And no I'm not denying rutgers has a bad track record when it comes to bball coaches the record speaks for itself but this story is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

(05-11-2013 08:28 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 02:40 AM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  Lol he left a semester early because he went to the nba. Its always funny to see people trying to compare this and the rice thing to the penn state scandal it really helps show your stupidity.

Others in this thread did not display any stupidity...as you obviously didn't read the article or VIEW his transcript.

Jordan did not leave RU "early", he completed his Spring Semester 1977 session.

Then, (again, if you read the article), he came back in 1978, 1981 and 1985 to take more classes, again, trying to finish up his degree.

Suggestion, before calling claiming that others are stupid and/or declarying that he left early for the NBA, why not take 5 secs and view the article/transcripts...it will probably say you an embarrassing post next time around.

Bottom line is Jordan has some 100 credits without "graduating". Was it poor oversight by rutgers to claim that he graduated? Absolutely. But this was just a matter of rutgers being incompetent in being thorough rather than a "cover up". Jordan is going to be judged by his ability to recruit/coach and not because of this story.

Also I have no idea what people are talking about in terms of rutgers and Ucf. We played them in st Pete like 3 years ago and we play them again this year. Other than that I have no opinion of Ucf and their fans. Cincy usf and uconn I will miss playing but Ucf not to sound rude but I really couldn't care less about.

(05-11-2013 08:11 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So this is all about George O'Leary... Thanks. I thought it was about Rutgers and Eddie Jordan...

You will soon learn that it is always about GOL with the huggers.

(05-11-2013 08:37 PM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 08:28 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 02:40 AM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  Lol he left a semester early because he went to the nba. Its always funny to see people trying to compare this and the rice thing to the penn state scandal it really helps show your stupidity.

Others in this thread did not display any stupidity...as you obviously didn't read the article or VIEW his transcript.

Jordan did not leave RU "early", he completed his Spring Semester 1977 session.

Then, (again, if you read the article), he came back in 1978, 1981 and 1985 to take more classes, again, trying to finish up his degree.

Suggestion, before calling claiming that others are stupid and/or declarying that he left early for the NBA, why not take 5 secs and view the article/transcripts...it will probably say you an embarrassing post next time around.

Bottom line is Jordan has some 200 credits without "graduating". Was it poor oversight by rutgers to claim that he graduated? Absolutely. But this was just a matter of rutgers being incompetent in being thorough rather than a "cover up". Jordan is going to be judged by his ability to recruit/coach and not because of this story.

Also I have no idea what people are talking about in terms of rutgers and Ucf. We played them in st Pete like 3 years ago and we play them again this year. Other than that I have no opinion of Ucf and their fans. Cincy usf and uconn I will miss playing but Ucf not to sound rude but I really couldn't care less about.

He has 103 credits. Not 200.

(05-11-2013 08:48 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 08:37 PM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 08:28 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 02:40 AM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  Lol he left a semester early because he went to the nba. Its always funny to see people trying to compare this and the rice thing to the penn state scandal it really helps show your stupidity.

Others in this thread did not display any stupidity...as you obviously didn't read the article or VIEW his transcript.

Jordan did not leave RU "early", he completed his Spring Semester 1977 session.

Then, (again, if you read the article), he came back in 1978, 1981 and 1985 to take more classes, again, trying to finish up his degree.

Suggestion, before calling claiming that others are stupid and/or declarying that he left early for the NBA, why not take 5 secs and view the article/transcripts...it will probably say you an embarrassing post next time around.

Bottom line is Jordan has some 200 credits without "graduating". Was it poor oversight by rutgers to claim that he graduated? Absolutely. But this was just a matter of rutgers being incompetent in being thorough rather than a "cover up". Jordan is going to be judged by his ability to recruit/coach and not because of this story.

Also I have no idea what people are talking about in terms of rutgers and Ucf. We played them in st Pete like 3 years ago and we play them again this year. Other than that I have no opinion of Ucf and their fans. Cincy usf and uconn I will miss playing but Ucf not to sound rude but I really couldn't care less about.

He has 103 credits. Not 200.

My bad that was a typo

Rutgers could so easily fix this by enrolling Mr. Jordan for the summer semester (I think I heard that he has 103 credits and a minimum for degree is110) and figuring out what he needs to complete.

This seems to be close to a situation at NC State where they hired a BB coach without a degree but allowed him to complete a degree from an extension program (ie. correspondence school). This doesn't even have to be that extensive. 7 credit hours...

Apparently he has more than enough credits to graduate but both sides never bothered to get the proper graduation paperwork together back in the 80s. Realistically this should be a non-story.

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(05-11-2013 09:32 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Apparently he has more than enough credits to graduate but both sides never bothered to get the proper graduation paperwork together back in the 80s. Realistically this should be a non-story.

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Hey, it's just a college degree we are talking about....no big deal.

From a bully to a liar

Go Rutgers!!!!

(05-11-2013 08:37 PM)UltimateCFBfan Wrote:  Bottom line is Jordan has some 100 credits without "graduating". Was it poor oversight by rutgers to claim that he graduated? Absolutely. But this was just a matter of rutgers being incompetent in being thorough rather than a "cover up".

Believe thats the main point many in the local/nation media have focused on...especially after the Mike Rice debacle...and how it happened right in the same building as Rutgers then AD.

Poor oversight, incompetent, etc...that's something Rutgers Athletics could do without right now. (i.e. just bad timing)

Honestly....who cares?

Rutgers is no longer our concern.

(05-12-2013 10:55 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  Honestly....who cares?

Rutgers is no longer our concern.

They are for one more season.

(05-12-2013 11:44 AM)subflea Wrote:  

(05-12-2013 10:55 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  Honestly....who cares?

Rutgers is no longer our concern.

They are for one more season.

Yeah...some AAC fans might have no clue that Rutgers and Louisville will be in the AAC for this upcoming season.

(05-12-2013 01:17 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 09:32 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Apparently he has more than enough credits to graduate but both sides never bothered to get the proper graduation paperwork together back in the 80s. Realistically this should be a non-story.

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Hey, it's just a college degree we are talking about....no big deal.

From a bully to a liar

Go Rutgers!!!!

Care to elaborate on that point chief?

Here we go again with people lying just to get a job, what the hell is going on around here???

(05-13-2013 10:13 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(05-12-2013 01:17 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 09:32 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Apparently he has more than enough credits to graduate but both sides never bothered to get the proper graduation paperwork together back in the 80s. Realistically this should be a non-story.

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Hey, it's just a college degree we are talking about....no big deal.

From a bully to a liar

Go Rutgers!!!!

Care to elaborate on that point chief?

He's saying that Rutgers went from Mike Rice (abusive coach) to a new coach who lied on his resume. His words not mine. Personally I think the new guy deserves a chance, completed degree or not. /shrug

why do you need a degree to coach basketball?