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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
In the Trib. today some B10 rep said they wanted to basically halt FCS scheduling, and also steer away from some of the Arkansas State Vs. Wisconsin September games.
He didn't say no non-AQ, but sounds like no FCS, and slightly less FBS, and then only the top half or so. He said "games that interest our fans". Probably a lot of rhetoric there, sounds like some changes but nothing horrific for the better non-AQ teams. Maybe we (MAC) go 9 games, with most schools having one AQ and two non AQ pre-conference? Sad to say but we should drop all FCS as well to keep pace I think.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-15-2013 03:03 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: In the Trib. today some B10 rep said they wanted to basically halt FCS scheduling, and also steer away from some of the Arkansas State Vs. Wisconsin September games.
He didn't say no non-AQ, but sounds like no FCS, and slightly less FBS, and then only the top half or so. He said "games that interest our fans". Probably a lot of rhetoric there, sounds like some changes but nothing horrific for the better non-AQ teams. Maybe we (MAC) go 9 games, with most schools having one AQ and two non AQ pre-conference? Sad to say but we should drop all FCS as well to keep pace I think.
We don't need to drop FCS to keep pace. We play actual road games in OOC, so that evens it out a bit.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
Just catching up on this thread and I took two key points from it:
(1) If you lose a BCS bowl game on your first try you should disband your program.
(2) If your team is fortunate enough to make the leap to AQ status you get to sanctimoniously tell the next team coming up how pathetic and embarrassing they are. Sort of like hazing at the military academies when you were the fat plebe not too long ago yourself. Looking forward to it.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-15-2013 03:03 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: In the Trib. today some B10 rep said they wanted to basically halt FCS scheduling, and also steer away from some of the Arkansas State Vs. Wisconsin September games.
He didn't say no non-AQ, but sounds like no FCS, and slightly less FBS, and then only the top half or so. He said "games that interest our fans". Probably a lot of rhetoric there, sounds like some changes but nothing horrific for the better non-AQ teams. ...
Yes, they are supposed to stop scheduling FCS schools ... given new opportunities that opens up for MAC schools, the net effect is likely a wash.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-14-2013 09:28 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: (05-14-2013 08:53 PM)gocards#1 Wrote: (05-14-2013 08:23 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: (05-14-2013 06:02 PM)gocards#1 Wrote: So you're trying to justify NIU's piss poor performance in the Orange Bowl by saying it's alright because it's not the most lopsided loss in BCS history? Kinda pathetic. That's like saying it's ok to be overweight because there are other people out there that are obese.
Just because it's not the worst doesn't mean squat. NIU shat the bed for mid majors everywhere. Everybody said NIU didn't belong on the same field as FSU and you proved them right. Everybody said Louisville didn't belong on the same field as Florida and we proved them wrong. End of story.
And I'm sure everyone said the same thing when Hawaii lost by 31.
Hawaii finished the regular season in the top 10 undefeated, and against a considerably tougher schedule than NIU faced. They deserved to be in a BCS game, even if they didn't play like it. NIU had a bad loss to a terrible Iowa team and didn't even finish in the top 15 against a horribly awful schedule. They didn't deserve to be in a BCS game. See the difference?
You need to look up your facts. Hawaii had an easier schedule. It included TWO FCS teams and an OOC slate consisting of UNLV (2-10) and Washington (4-9). They did not play a ranked team at all that year until Georgia (and unlike with the MAC I don't think any of the teams they played were ranked at all that year outside of Georgia).
Wrong yet again. Hawaii played and defeated #19 Boise in the regular season. You guys would just LOVE to prove me wrong but you can't seem to get your facts straight. Ever.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-15-2013 12:38 AM)Kevin S Wrote: (05-14-2013 09:04 PM)gocards#1 Wrote: (05-14-2013 06:47 PM)TARDledo Wrote: Louisville has only been playing "Major College" football since the early 60's and had no measurable success at the "Small College" level.
Before getting the unfair advantage of "BCS AQ" status, Louisville football was THREE whole games over .500 all time. Since then, UL is mostly a mediocre team in the most marginal of "AQ" conferences.
At best, Louisville football is a MAC football peer.
Do you not know how to use Google? Are you really this ignorant or are you just pretending to be?
Louisville finished #12 with a record of 10-1-1 in 1990 with a 34-7 victory over Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl AS AN INDEPENDENT. In 2001 we finished #17 at 11-2 with a win over BYU in the Liberty Bowl in CUSA, and in 2004 we finished #6 with an 11-1 record with a win over #10 Boise State again in the highest rated Liberty Bowl of all time as a member of CUSA.
All of these seasons were accomplished without earning a penny as a member of an AQ conference. Up until 1996 we didn't get a penny from any conference at all and operated as an independent.
Compare that to NIU's "success" during the same period and tell me what you find.
You beat a 7-5 unranked Alabama team in the Fiesta Bowl which at that time was a low level bowl. Please get real!
Actually they were ranked #25 going into the game, and three of their four regular season losses were by 4 points or fewer, and just two years later the Fiesta Bowl was included in the Bowl Coalition, which was the predecessor to the BCS. So no, the Fiesta Bowl was most certainly not a "low level bowl" in 1990.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
You have yet to address previous comments. Do you think Hawaii's schedule was stronger than NIU's? Would a Cardinal team without Strong done as well against Florida, and how would NIU done with Doeren?
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05-15-2013 06:59 PM |
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-15-2013 06:59 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: You have yet to address previous comments. Do you think Hawaii's schedule was stronger than NIU's? Would a Cardinal team without Strong done as well against Florida, and how would NIU done with Doeren?
Oh so now you want to hear my opinion? I thought I was just a butthurt troll and now you guys are hanging onto my every word.
As I've already stated I don't deal in hypotheticals. I don't know how Louisville would've fared against Florida without Strong and I don't care, and I care even less about now NIU would've done against FSU with Doeren.
As for Hawaii's schedule, It really depends on which ranking you use to determine SOS. On Realtimerpi Hawaii's SOS in their Sugar Bowl year was 84 while NIU's last season was 206 while Sagarin ranks them much closer. That's where I determined NIU's was "considerably worse".
Happy?
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
Evidently you deal in hallucinogens.
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RE: Saban saying Big 5 should only play selves
(05-15-2013 07:51 PM)TARDledo Wrote: Evidently you deal in hallucinogens.
That or he's gotten into the moonshine again...
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