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(05-13-2013 05:08 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-13-2013 05:00 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-13-2013 04:51 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  What we see is the B1G getting killed by either USC or the SEC in BCS Bowl games. The B1G has been getting better the past 2-3 years tho. We also see the B1G's overall Bowl records for each year. Maybe there is too much stock in glorified scrimmages in late December/early January.

There absolutely is. Bowl games are mini vacations for these Big Ten teams. They get to go away to nice places and they have all kinds of activities planned for them to bring them out into the community. Bowl Games are not just about the game for these kids.

That is why we needed the Tournament that we got but it needs to be expanded and we need conference tournaments too in order to turn the postseason into more of a competitive time for more programs than it is now.

Maybe that will do the trick but I think Urban Meyer and Hoke have OSU and Michigan on the right path. Both seem to realize that they need to recruit more on a national scale rather than just regional.

Yes, our flagships will be back on track and the rest of the fleet will follow suit as is the tradition in the conference. I think Wisconsin bringing in an outsider as their Head Coach is a good thing and another indicator of the mindset across the conference. He is a proven entity of taking a team of athletes and getting them to play above their athletic level. That is what Wisconsin needs as a Head Coach.

In terms of the national recruiting rather than regional. Meyer has already opened his mouth on that. Expect to see Big Ten recruiting budgets soaring. With the new NCAA rule change, they dont have move resources from traditional recruiting spots in order to expand their recruiting grasp. They can maintain their traditional recruiting while at the same time expanding recruiting potential into new areas.
05-13-2013 05:18 PM
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I agree Bob. I say that CFB is cyclical myself. But unfortunately this is a "what have you done for me lately" kind've world. Fair or unfair. For all we know the PAC goes on a 5 year run. Impossible to tell what's going to happen next. I do think that we're due for some kind of shift in power. Its really up to the other 4 leagues to grab the proverbial torch and run with it.
05-13-2013 05:19 PM
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(05-12-2013 09:16 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 09:05 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  People also hate what they can't be a part of.

Yep, simple jealousy.

B1G Ten schools represent history, pageantry, academic excellence and tradition. That's a brand no conference can compete with, not even the SEC.

Add those key ingredients to a huge fan base, B1Gtime money coming from commercial interest and media access and people who aren't in that club find it easy to look for any reason to take shots at it.

The B1G Ten is like Apple.

It was asked, so I'll answer: Remarks like the one above are what makes the B1G an easy target. Although, the remark "the B1G is like Apple" is on the mark (people love/hate Apple, often for silly reasons). Believe me, the SEC has our share of fans who say nothing in this universe compares to the SEC experience. That is not true, either. We all have our own history, pageantry, academic excellence, and tradition. I love football more when the B1G is good because it increases the friendly regional venom, similar to national soccer in Europe.
05-13-2013 08:18 PM
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(05-13-2013 04:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  FWIW I think Rutgers is a sleeping giant ready to wake up.

Hopefully so, but the way every aspect of the basketball program has been handled over the last 6 months I'd say we're a long way away. Football is run well though, odd how that works.
05-14-2013 11:14 AM
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(05-13-2013 08:18 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 09:16 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 09:05 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  People also hate what they can't be a part of.

Yep, simple jealousy.

B1G Ten schools represent history, pageantry, academic excellence and tradition. That's a brand no conference can compete with, not even the SEC.

Add those key ingredients to a huge fan base, B1Gtime money coming from commercial interest and media access and people who aren't in that club find it easy to look for any reason to take shots at it.

The B1G Ten is like Apple.

It was asked, so I'll answer: Remarks like the one above are what makes the B1G an easy target.

If that's all it takes, every conference is a "easy target", since every conference will have fans who post things somewhere that would qualify as much as that above would do.

Anybody who goes looking for an excuse to hate a conference based on some small selected sample of posters is going to find some internet forum that will give them the excuse they are looking for.

tl;dr version: haters going to hate.
05-14-2013 01:14 PM
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(05-14-2013 01:14 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-13-2013 08:18 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  
(05-12-2013 09:16 AM)Fireman451 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 09:05 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  People also hate what they can't be a part of.

Yep, simple jealousy.

B1G Ten schools represent history, pageantry, academic excellence and tradition. That's a brand no conference can compete with, not even the SEC.

Add those key ingredients to a huge fan base, B1Gtime money coming from commercial interest and media access and people who aren't in that club find it easy to look for any reason to take shots at it.

The B1G Ten is like Apple.

It was asked, so I'll answer: Remarks like the one above are what makes the B1G an easy target.

If that's all it takes, every conference is a "easy target", since every conference will have fans who post things somewhere that would qualify as much as that above would do.

Anybody who goes looking for an excuse to hate a conference based on some small selected sample of posters is going to find some internet forum that will give them the excuse they are looking for.

tl;dr version: haters going to hate.

Agreed, Bruce. We at Kentucky are getting that today because of a few numb-skull UK "fans" that are posting nasty stuff to Andrew Wiggins for signing with Kansas. The extremes always get the attention.
05-14-2013 01:22 PM
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(05-08-2013 09:20 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Why is there so much hatred of the Big Ten? Specially within this website. I understand we have tOSUcks and scUM and their garbage t-shirt fans who can make anyone's day awful, but what else about this conference irritates you or people you know?

Also, who else other than James Delany actually wants Notre Dame in the Big Ten?
I think that the board's roots as a Big East board (IIRC) would be a reason for many long members to have a different allegiance as a starting point. Many other members like myself were drawn here for realignment news and speculation. The B1G has weathered that storm well and grown, while many other conferences did not fare so well. Since the whole topic is a conference-centric one, fans are likely to stick up for their favorite and be vocal against others.

And to bigblueblindness' point, it's true that a vocal minority can cause a negative impression. KU's more entitled fans have made us look bad on the web as well. As for the Wiggins get, I think Cal has more than enough talent on hand already 04-cheers
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(05-14-2013 07:55 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 09:20 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Why is there so much hatred of the Big Ten? Specially within this website. I understand we have tOSUcks and scUM and their garbage t-shirt fans who can make anyone's day awful, but what else about this conference irritates you or people you know?

Also, who else other than James Delany actually wants Notre Dame in the Big Ten?
I think that the board's roots as a Big East board (IIRC) would be a reason for many long members to have a different allegiance as a starting point. Many other members like myself were drawn here for realignment news and speculation. The B1G has weathered that storm well and grown, while many other conferences did not fare so well. Since the whole topic is a conference-centric one, fans are likely to stick up for their favorite and be vocal against others.

And to bigblueblindness' point, it's true that a vocal minority can cause a negative impression. KU's more entitled fans have made us look bad on the web as well. As for the Wiggins get, I think Cal has more than enough talent on hand already 04-cheers

Indeed! In recent days when it became more clear that Wiggins was not coming to UK, it turned from rooting for him to come to just rooting that he not go to UNC! Good luck to the Jayhawks... until the late April/early May next year 04-cheers
05-15-2013 10:10 AM
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