I couldn't imagine teams ending up 6-8.

I know it sucked when we lost a bowl game and ended the season 6-7.

even tho she switched teams

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(05-04-2013 03:11 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I couldn't imagine teams ending up 6-8.

I know it sucked when we lost a bowl game and ended the season 6-7.

I've never thought 6-6 team deserves to go to a Bowl game. Yes, even if that 6-6 team is Memphis.

NCAA let UCLA go in 2011 at 6-7 they lost their bowl and ended up 6-8. I think it's fine You shouldn't punish a team for playing in a conference championship game

(05-04-2013 03:39 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 03:11 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I couldn't imagine teams ending up 6-8.

I know it sucked when we lost a bowl game and ended the season 6-7.

I've never thought 6-6 team deserves to go to a Bowl game. Yes, even if that 6-6 team is Memphis.

I disagree many teams play difficult schedules and their six and six record Is more deserving than some teams that are 7-5 and even. 8-4 when you look at the teams the school played.

It's unclear why the NCAA draws the line at 6-6 for bowl-game participation. If the point of having bowl games in the first place is to reward excellence in the regular season, then obviously 6-6 or 7-5 doesn't even come close. If the point is to allow teams to play an extra game over the Christmas/New Year holiday, why not just allow as many bowl games as the market will bear.

I remember 30 years ago, there were 15-16 bowl games and that seemed like a lot.

(05-04-2013 04:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  It's unclear why the NCAA draws the line at 6-6 for bowl-game participation. If the point of having bowl games in the first place is to reward excellence in the regular season, then obviously 6-6 or 7-5 doesn't even come close. If the point is to allow teams to play an extra game over the Christmas/New Year holiday, why not just allow as many bowl games as the market will bear.

I remember 30 years ago, there were 15-16 bowl games and that seemed like a lot.

ECU went 8-3 in 96 with wins over Miami NC State and South Carolina and we sat home. I'll never ***** about to many bowl games.

(05-04-2013 05:00 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  ECU went 8-3 in 96 with wins over Miami NC State and South Carolina and we sat home. I'll never ***** about to many bowl games.

It's not a question of there being too many bowls, just of admitting that as long as 6-6 teams are being invited to play in them, there's no non-commercial reason to forbid any team from playing in one, no matter how bad their record is, if there's a bowl that will invite them.

I won't complain about 6-6 bowl teams until they stop letting basketball teams of 10-18 or into the NCAA basketball tournament. Liberty lost 20 games last year but made the NCAA tourney cause they won their tournament. Teams with losing records like that should get an NIT berth at best, and allow the regular season champ to take the auto bid.

(05-06-2013 09:43 AM)MichealBond Wrote:  I won't complain about 6-6 bowl teams until they stop letting basketball teams of 10-18 or into the NCAA basketball tournament. Liberty lost 20 games last year but made the NCAA tourney cause they won their tournament. Teams with losing records like that should get an NIT berth at best, and allow the regular season champ to take the auto bid.

Blame the conference for that. Each conference decides who receives their respective autobid, not the NCAA. The conference could decide to send their regular season champ to the NCAA's if they so chose. But since the NIT automatically takes those if they are not selected for the NCAA tournament, most conferences choose the tournament winner to go - that way they get more teams into the postseason.

(05-04-2013 03:54 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I disagree many teams play difficult schedules and their six and six record Is more deserving than some teams that are 7-5 and even. 8-4 when you look at the teams the school played.

Absolutely. Just look at our schedule when we went 6-6 and to a bowl which we lost. We beat 2 teams that finished in the top 25 (Tulsa (11-3) & NC State (9-4)), as well as a good USM (8-5) team.

5 of our losses were to teams getting votes in the top 25 including 3 that finished top 25.

Virginia Tech (11-3) L
North Carolina (8-5) L
Central Florida (11-3) L
Navy (9-4) L
Maryland (9-4) L

What MAC or Sun Belt 7-5 crap beat two top 25 teams or played a schedule like that. People look at us as some small time CUSA school but I don't think they ever realize the kind of schedules we play some times.

While I think there is a valid argument for 6-6 overall, I think that point is mute if you under .500 in conference play.

There have been BCS schools who will play one decent OOC game then two low -D1 teams at and a D2 team at home for their OOC games.
That allowed them to go 3-4 in BCS conference play and get a bowl game.

A 6-6 (3-4) BCS team is less deserving than a 6-6 (5-2) non-BCS team who lost 2 or 3 games against a brutal BCS OOC schedule. At least the non-BCS team got it done in their conference showing that they are doing what they should do at the level they are at.

(05-06-2013 01:02 PM)Weatherdemon Wrote:  While I think there is a valid argument for 6-6 overall, I think that point is mute if you under .500 in conference play.

There have been BCS schools who will play one decent OOC game then two low -D1 teams at and a D2 team at home for their OOC games.
That allowed them to go 3-4 in BCS conference play and get a bowl game.

A 6-6 (3-4) BCS team is less deserving than a 6-6 (5-2) non-BCS team who lost 2 or 3 games against a brutal BCS OOC schedule. At least the non-BCS team got it done in their conference showing that they are doing what they should do at the level they are at.

Deserve has nothing to do with it. The bowls are primarily concerned about one thing, turning a profit. 9 times out of 10 that's easier to do with any BCS team with a larger fanbase.

The sooner we stop thinking of lower bowls as some kind of reward the better. They're nothing but a money trap for schools and their fans. I wish we'd drop about half of them.

It's all about $$$$