"ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

(05-06-2013 06:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

It is absolutely shocking to me they didn't get equity in this deal, at least according to the article,

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Here is the SEC Network trailer if you have not seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du3lnMncltA

Quote:Is there a single large state where the Big Ten team is the top draw in the state? I don't think so.

Ever heard of a place called Michigan?

Quote:(Ohio and Indiana are probably the top arguments for big states, but Indiana football is worthless. So Ohio State is really the only argument. Are the Buckeyes the most valuable team in the state of Ohio? Maybe.)

There is no maybe about it, Ohio St is the most popular team in Ohio.



Clearly, this writer has no agenda.

(05-06-2013 06:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

Its not too late for you to delete this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=631980

(05-06-2013 08:00 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 06:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

Its not too late for you to delete this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=631980

You're kidding, right? Industry experts are predicting the SEC will eventually collect $28.6m per school for the SECN and the rest of the ESPN/CBS deals. That is far less than the SEC could have gotten had it not signed the awful 2008 deals.

(05-06-2013 08:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 08:00 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 06:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

Its not too late for you to delete this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=631980

You're kidding, right? Industry experts are predicting the SEC will eventually collect $28.6m per school for the SECN and the rest of the ESPN/CBS deals. That is far less than the SEC could have gotten had it not signed the awful 2008 deals.

"Industry experts are predicting" Really? I thought it was a CBS article. Other articles are speculating $35 million. Some go as high as $70 million. It's is all speculation now.

You found a low number, and for some reason, grabbed it, held it up in the air and shouted "This is it, this is it! The SEC is a bunch of morons!!" Why? I do not know, but at some point you must admit you were wrong or you are going to appear delusional.

(05-06-2013 07:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

Quote:Is there a single large state where the Big Ten team is the top draw in the state? I don't think so.

Ever heard of a place called Michigan?

Quote:(Ohio and Indiana are probably the top arguments for big states, but Indiana football is worthless. So Ohio State is really the only argument. Are the Buckeyes the most valuable team in the state of Ohio? Maybe.)

There is no maybe about it, Ohio St is the most popular team in Ohio.

Clearly, this writer has no agenda.

B1G states population ranking #5 Illinois, #6 Pennsylvania, #7 Ohio, #9 Michigan, #11 New Jersey, #16 Indiana, #19 Maryland, #20 Wisconsin, #21 Minnesota, #30 Iowa, #37 Nebraska... estimate of 84.1 million

SEC states population ranking #2 Texas, #4 Florida, #8 Georgia, #17 Tennessee, #18 Missouri, #23 Alabama, #24 South Carolina, #25 Louisiana, #26 Kentucky, #31 Mississippi, #32 Arkansas... estimate of 90 million

Those are for the whole state. Of the B1G states I would say that Indiana is the only one who isn't the top school in the state because of Notre Dame.

(05-06-2013 09:17 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 07:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

Quote:Is there a single large state where the Big Ten team is the top draw in the state? I don't think so.

Ever heard of a place called Michigan?

Quote:(Ohio and Indiana are probably the top arguments for big states, but Indiana football is worthless. So Ohio State is really the only argument. Are the Buckeyes the most valuable team in the state of Ohio? Maybe.)

There is no maybe about it, Ohio St is the most popular team in Ohio.

Clearly, this writer has no agenda.

B1G states population ranking #5 Illinois, #6 Pennsylvania, #7 Ohio, #9 Michigan, #11 New Jersey, #16 Indiana, #19 Maryland, #20 Wisconsin, #21 Minnesota, #30 Iowa, #37 Nebraska... estimate of 84.1 million

SEC states population ranking #2 Texas, #4 Florida, #8 Georgia, #17 Tennessee, #18 Missouri, #23 Alabama, #24 South Carolina, #25 Louisiana, #26 Kentucky, #31 Mississippi, #32 Arkansas... estimate of 90 million

Those are for the whole state. Of the B1G states I would say that Indiana is the only one who isn't the top school in the state because of Notre Dame.

I think the writers point was pro teams are bigger in most of the B1G states.

Clay Travis is an SEC honk with delusions of grandeur. Notice how he still is pushing his hair-brained theory about the SEC pushing into NC and VA? That dream is dead.

The SEC Network getting $3/subscriber? Get real. The BTN only gets about $0.90/subscriber within its footprint. What makes Travis believe the SEC will get 3-4 times that?

(05-06-2013 08:52 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 08:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 08:00 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 06:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 05:18 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  "ESPN owns 100% of the network, but the SEC owns 100% of the content. Today the Sports Business Journal reported that all profits will be split 50/50."

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/sec-ne...letics.php

The SEC just went super nova.

Yes, but remember, the SECN is separate from the contracts ESPN and CBS already signed with the SEC in 2008.

Good move by the SEC getting equity in the SECN, though. They learned from that 2008 mistake.

Its not too late for you to delete this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=631980

You're kidding, right? Industry experts are predicting the SEC will eventually collect $28.6m per school for the SECN and the rest of the ESPN/CBS deals. That is far less than the SEC could have gotten had it not signed the awful 2008 deals.

"Industry experts are predicting" Really? I thought it was a CBS article. Other articles are speculating $35 million. Some go as high as $70 million. It's is all speculation now.

You found a low number, and for some reason, grabbed it, held it up in the air and shouted "This is it, this is it! The SEC is a bunch of morons!!" Why? I do not know, but at some point you must admit you were wrong or you are going to appear delusional.

WTF? You latched on to one SBJ source saying that the SEC and ESPN are splitting profits from the SECN and held it up in the air and shouted "This is it! This is it! ...". Etc. Good Lord.

Feel free to post links to articles predicting $70 million, etc. I'll be happy to peruse them. In any event, the number will be a lot less than what the SEC would have gotten sans the 2008 disaster deal.

(05-06-2013 09:17 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 07:38 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

Quote:Is there a single large state where the Big Ten team is the top draw in the state? I don't think so.

Ever heard of a place called Michigan?

Quote:(Ohio and Indiana are probably the top arguments for big states, but Indiana football is worthless. So Ohio State is really the only argument. Are the Buckeyes the most valuable team in the state of Ohio? Maybe.)

There is no maybe about it, Ohio St is the most popular team in Ohio.

Clearly, this writer has no agenda.

B1G states population ranking #5 Illinois, #6 Pennsylvania, #7 Ohio, #9 Michigan, #11 New Jersey, #16 Indiana, #19 Maryland, #20 Wisconsin, #21 Minnesota, #30 Iowa, #37 Nebraska... estimate of 84.1 million

SEC states population ranking #2 Texas, #4 Florida, #8 Georgia, #17 Tennessee, #18 Missouri, #23 Alabama, #24 South Carolina, #25 Louisiana, #26 Kentucky, #31 Mississippi, #32 Arkansas... estimate of 90 million

Those are for the whole state. Of the B1G states I would say that Indiana is the only one who isn't the top school in the state because of Notre Dame.

Remember that the state of Indiana is a bit different in the same way as Kentucky and North Carolina - it is unambiguously a basketball state and, in that respect, the Hoosiers are clearly the most popular team. Notre Dame seems to have a similar relationship with Indiana natives as Duke has with North Carolina natives - it's not really a "local" team. ND is a bigger draw across state lines in the Chicago area.

The overarching point is that both the Big Ten and SEC really do "deliver" all of their home markets with respect to college sports even if there might be other high profile schools that compete for attention in the footprint (e.g. Notre Dame in the Big Ten, Texas in the SEC). I've always thought that the "pro sports competition" argument was weak because any market that's worth actually having from a TV perspective is going to have a lot of pro sports competition.

(05-07-2013 09:20 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I've always thought that the "pro sports competition" argument was weak because any market that's worth actually having from a TV perspective is going to have a lot of pro sports competition.

It's the nature of the football culture that matters. E.g., in places like Texas and Louisiana, it's a shared culture. The old mantra in a place like Louisiana is "Destehan High School on Fridays, LSU on Saturdays, the Saints on Sundays". That's a shared football culture. Rabid following of the NFL team does nothing to diminish the appeal of college (and high school) football. In fact, those three foci create a general football frenzy in the fall especially but also year-round that benefits interest in all three levels of play.

But in places like NYC or Boston, it's "nothing on Fridays and Saturdays, and the Patriots/Giants/Jets on Sundays". For a school like UConn, that's a very tough nut to crack.

Even worse is a place like Tampa, where the culture is "Plant High on Fridays, Florida or FSU on Saturdays, the Bucs on Sundays". You see where USF fits in to that.