(05-16-2013 02:07 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  For a guy who acts like he knows everything, Triple A hasn't dropped a single name during the search to prove he knows more than a fence post. It's not hard to know TC doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I know a D2 coach that spoke to Josh about the position, and he texted me yesterday that Jarvis is a strong possibility (apparently Jarvis' daddy is lobbying hard for his son). Anyone can refute what I am saying (and keep in mind I am not saying it's done) but unless you have names to drop to show you know what you are talking about, IMO it's weak as hell to try to discredit someone who is reporting what they have heard.

maybe you weren't around when TripleA used to share his info more freely. I was,
A guy who is now a national writer for a large daily newspaper took it upon himself to read TripleA's emails over the air in an attempt to discredit him.
If you wonder why Andy doesn't share so much with us as much as he used to...that is why.

(05-16-2013 03:41 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 02:07 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  For a guy who acts like he knows everything, Triple A hasn't dropped a single name during the search to prove he knows more than a fence post. It's not hard to know TC doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I know a D2 coach that spoke to Josh about the position, and he texted me yesterday that Jarvis is a strong possibility (apparently Jarvis' daddy is lobbying hard for his son). Anyone can refute what I am saying (and keep in mind I am not saying it's done) but unless you have names to drop to show you know what you are talking about, IMO it's weak as hell to try to discredit someone who is reporting what they have heard.

maybe you weren't around when TripleA used to share his info more freely. I was,
A guy who is now a national writer for a large daily newspaper took it upon himself to read TripleA's emails over the air in an attempt to discredit him.
If you wonder why Andy doesn't share so much with us as much as he used to...that is why.

Here is all I am saying: I went on a limb and posted what I have heard. I haven't claimed it to be fact. Someone comes on and decides to refute what I have heard (that originated from a credible source). Regardless of said persons post count or what they say they know, or what they have known in the past, that isn't relevant to this particular situation. To me it isn't a knock on Triple A personally, as it could have been anyone saying my info is dead wrong while they add absolutely no value to the conversation.

I also understand sensitive information. Usually recruiting can be sensitive. We might be interested in a kid nobody knows we are on and we want to sign him or get a verbal before people realize he is even talking with us. An assistant coach hire usually doesn't fit the bill. 99% of the time an assistant discussing a position with another school isn't sensitive because they will want the publicity to either get some attention or increase their leverage ($$$) in their current situation (I think we all know how that works).

(05-16-2013 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 02:07 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  For a guy who acts like he knows everything, Triple A hasn't dropped a single name during the search to prove he knows more than a fence post. It's not hard to know TC doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I know a D2 coach that spoke to Josh about the position, and he texted me yesterday that Jarvis is a strong possibility (apparently Jarvis' daddy is lobbying hard for his son). Anyone can refute what I am saying (and keep in mind I am not saying it's done) but unless you have names to drop to show you know what you are talking about, IMO it's weak as hell to try to discredit someone who is reporting what they have heard.

If you knew me at all, you would know I never act like I know everything. I'm not dropping names in this case b/c I really do know who is being considered, and it could cause a problem with the search, if the names under consideration or negotiation got out, for sure.

I do tell some people privately what's up, but only those I know personally and trust. You're not one of them. I used to post a lot more info here, and only b/c I try to share if it's appropriate. Not long ago, I put a helluva lot of money into TrueBlueTigers just to do that, b/c I'm retired and the Tigers are my passion and hobby, so I try to share what I can w/o causing any problems. But I don't say much any more, b/c it's such a hassle, with all the snide remarks and personal attacks common now.

I don't do it to be some internet hero. Hell, I'm too old for that nonsense, so if you don't like what I have to say, that's your right. I couldn't care less.

As for Jarvis specifically, Josh has said privately that he is not being considered. That's a fact. Maybe Josh was being polite to the D2 coach, or the coach misunderstood. Maybe Josh was persuaded by the argument, and changed his mind after I heard about it.

If my info conflicts with yours, that's life. Par for a message board. And things change enough that two people can have conflicting info, and both be right at the time. People are free to take all this in and decide for themselves. I simply say what I believe to be true, and I don't embellish or make up crap.

As for criticizing others' info, I have only criticized Tigerscane. Over the years, I have mainly ignored him, but he generally reads everything posted and picks out things to push, and then makes up a lot of other crap. When he starts getting specific, to prove he knew something, and I know it is wrong, then I sometimes point it out.

If you don't like that, then put me on ignore.

Dang.....you always take the high road, doncha?

(05-16-2013 05:19 PM)TigerPat Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 02:07 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  For a guy who acts like he knows everything, Triple A hasn't dropped a single name during the search to prove he knows more than a fence post. It's not hard to know TC doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I know a D2 coach that spoke to Josh about the position, and he texted me yesterday that Jarvis is a strong possibility (apparently Jarvis' daddy is lobbying hard for his son). Anyone can refute what I am saying (and keep in mind I am not saying it's done) but unless you have names to drop to show you know what you are talking about, IMO it's weak as hell to try to discredit someone who is reporting what they have heard.

If you knew me at all, you would know I never act like I know everything. I'm not dropping names in this case b/c I really do know who is being considered, and it could cause a problem with the search, if the names under consideration or negotiation got out, for sure.

I do tell some people privately what's up, but only those I know personally and trust. You're not one of them. I used to post a lot more info here, and only b/c I try to share if it's appropriate. Not long ago, I put a helluva lot of money into TrueBlueTigers just to do that, b/c I'm retired and the Tigers are my passion and hobby, so I try to share what I can w/o causing any problems. But I don't say much any more, b/c it's such a hassle, with all the snide remarks and personal attacks common now.

I don't do it to be some internet hero. Hell, I'm too old for that nonsense, so if you don't like what I have to say, that's your right. I couldn't care less.

As for Jarvis specifically, Josh has said privately that he is not being considered. That's a fact. Maybe Josh was being polite to the D2 coach, or the coach misunderstood. Maybe Josh was persuaded by the argument, and changed his mind after I heard about it.

If my info conflicts with yours, that's life. Par for a message board. And things change enough that two people can have conflicting info, and both be right at the time. People are free to take all this in and decide for themselves. I simply say what I believe to be true, and I don't embellish or make up crap.

As for criticizing others' info, I have only criticized Tigerscane. Over the years, I have mainly ignored him, but he generally reads everything posted and picks out things to push, and then makes up a lot of other crap. When he starts getting specific, to prove he knew something, and I know it is wrong, then I sometimes point it out.

If you don't like that, then put me on ignore.

Dang.....you always take the high road, doncha?

I try. Most of the time I just stay quiet. Internet fights are ridiculous. I actually like TC's positive attitude, I just think he's gets way too carried away at times. Most people should know that by now, but once in a while, he needs to be reined in. He makes thousands of shotgun predictions that are rarely ever right, and sometimes plain misleading.

As for the other guy, I don't know him. But I went back and double checked today. It is still a fact that Jarvis is not being considered. Nothing ever changed. And others know that, too.

3A i will never fight no more with Tiger fans, Even when they attack me, or make fun of me, I will forever turn the other check as i do....I love our Program, and I Sent Im's to a few people over a week ago about the Assitants, and guess what I wasn't wrong..... Now if I say Lional Hollins is gonan get a big extension, right now, and he does indeed gets one 3 weeks from now, guess what i am right...Now Easterwood and others also know I do Know a thing or two on and behind the Recruiting scene in the AAU scene, as well as the 7on7's in FB....When i said Paxton Lynch was gonna be a star people laughed....When i said Martin Ifedi was gonna brreak out and how high the Coaches and Fuente were on him people laughed, well they did and are doing what i said they would be....We got most of the recruits i said they would....But I aighn't tooting no horn....that doesn't matter...I said it was gonna be two WOW hires and they are.....And I can Assure you right now the Next Assistant will be A Big Time Recruiter, Player Developer, and KNow everyone on the AAU scene and know The Right People.....Take that however you like it, b ut Alot of people know EXACTLY what that means.....Now i am Focused on our Tigers FB season coming up and the great things that are coming....We will win 7 and maybe even 8 this season in FB, and you can Mark that down....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

And remember the Reach Through AAU, That matters Way more than Most here can even imagine....Players make the coach alot more than the coach makes the players....If you think otherwise then Lesser talent will get you lesser Championships, Vs Great Players makes a coaches job so much easier..... Big time recruiter, Big on the AAU scene, Knows everyone you need to know and Knows the Right People....Just remember that.....Now this convo is over....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis...

(05-16-2013 05:58 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  We will win 7 and maybe even 8 this season in FB, and you can Mark that down.

I hope for once you are right.

Heck we won 4 games last year, and shoulda beat Ut martin, Coulda beat ASU, and could beat at least one more and I believe we are Alot better, and gonna be alot better team, and Win at least 7 this year and maybe 8....Thats would be a 3 game increase from General Justin Fuente first year to his second....Barry Odom is a star coach at DC and it is showing....Believe Memphis....Let them hear us roar!

(05-16-2013 02:07 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  For a guy who acts like he knows everything, Triple A hasn't dropped a single name during the search to prove he knows more than a fence post. It's not hard to know TC doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I know a D2 coach that spoke to Josh about the position, and he texted me yesterday that Jarvis is a strong possibility (apparently Jarvis' daddy is lobbying hard for his son). Anyone can refute what I am saying (and keep in mind I am not saying it's done) but unless you have names to drop to show you know what you are talking about, IMO it's weak as hell to try to discredit someone who is reporting what they have heard.

Who is discrediting whom?

Who is Jarvis? The news guy? I thought he played football?

(05-16-2013 03:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 03:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:56 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:52 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Assistant coaches stay at schools that give them the best chance to get a good head job. Well at least the ambitious ones do.

That's the balance.

No one will argue Cal and Dean and K have been successful.

Certainly part of that is due to the contintuity in their staffs.

Just like in the "real world" as an employer do you hire the best employee if you are certain they will be gone in two years, or do you hire a more reliable employee who will be there for the duration. There are positives and negatives to each, but history suggests that programs with less turnover seem to have better results.

Louisville had a completely overhauled staff this season and they won the national championship.

To some extent, yes, but the core staff that brought that group in was pretty consistent. Little Ricky Jr. was on the staff the year before (and obviously knows the coach and vice versa) and the other assistants that left a couple of years ago had 5 or 6 year tenures.

I imagine the head coach with almost 30 years h.c. experience is pretty good at setting out the agenda well, too.

Again, the coaches are all top notch. No knock there.

Interesting thing if you look at Pitino, Pastner and Cal. I thought with Pitino that recruiting had been very good across the board; but it looks like the coaching changes did have a short term effect on the talent level.

Louisville
2011
Behanan #21
Blackshear #36
Price #67
Ware #70

2012
Harrell #82

2013
Gill #50
Jones #1-5 Juco
Agau 87
Rozier UR

2014
Snider #29
Aaron #31

The amazing thing about Pastner and Cal is that they recruit at a high level no matter who the assistants are. A lot of people panicked when Cyprien left because he was apparently the reason for almost every single recruit signing with us; but the reality is that it doesn't matter much who the assistants are with guys like Pastner and Cal.

(05-17-2013 09:14 AM)idroot4russia Wrote:  Who is Jarvis? The news guy? I thought he played football?

Mike Jarvis II, who is the son of the FAU coach with the same name minus the II.

(05-17-2013 11:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 03:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-16-2013 03:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:56 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 10:52 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Assistant coaches stay at schools that give them the best chance to get a good head job. Well at least the ambitious ones do.

That's the balance.

No one will argue Cal and Dean and K have been successful.

Certainly part of that is due to the contintuity in their staffs.

Just like in the "real world" as an employer do you hire the best employee if you are certain they will be gone in two years, or do you hire a more reliable employee who will be there for the duration. There are positives and negatives to each, but history suggests that programs with less turnover seem to have better results.

Louisville had a completely overhauled staff this season and they won the national championship.

To some extent, yes, but the core staff that brought that group in was pretty consistent. Little Ricky Jr. was on the staff the year before (and obviously knows the coach and vice versa) and the other assistants that left a couple of years ago had 5 or 6 year tenures.

I imagine the head coach with almost 30 years h.c. experience is pretty good at setting out the agenda well, too.

Again, the coaches are all top notch. No knock there.

Interesting thing if you look at Pitino, Pastner and Cal. I thought with Pitino that recruiting had been very good across the board; but it looks like the coaching changes did have a short term effect on the talent level.

Louisville
2011
Behanan #21
Blackshear #36
Price #67
Ware #70

2012
Harrell #82

2013
Gill #50
Jones #1-5 Juco
Agau 87
Rozier UR

2014
Snider #29
Aaron #31

The amazing thing about Pastner and Cal is that they recruit at a high level no matter who the assistants are. A lot of people panicked when Cyprien left because he was apparently the reason for almost every single recruit signing with us; but the reality is that it doesn't matter much who the assistants are with guys like Pastner and Cal.

Good point. Recruiting helps with Memphis having much better local talent that U of L but JP has been able to scoop some non-local talent almost every year.