(05-06-2013 01:46 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 01:32 PM)slycat Wrote:  It'll expand slowly like the FCS playoffs did. Give it 10 years and the Sun Belt will probably have an auto bid against an SEC team.

That would be 2024. I think that will be a little to soon. Hey, we can pray.

It may be too quick but it will slowly happen. Unless the top 5 break away first.

(05-06-2013 02:06 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 01:46 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 01:32 PM)slycat Wrote:  It'll expand slowly like the FCS playoffs did. Give it 10 years and the Sun Belt will probably have an auto bid against an SEC team.

That would be 2024. I think that will be a little to soon. Hey, we can pray.

It may be too quick but it will slowly happen. Unless the top 5 break away first.

That's my fear.

They aren't going anywhere. They need us far more than they'd ever admit and that's why they'll never actually do it.

(05-06-2013 02:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  They aren't going anywhere. They need us far more than they'd ever admit and that's why they'll never actually do it.

Yep. They do not want to setup a situation where you have dueling National Champons. They will try to keep the status quo as long as possible. This has been going on for 20 years.

1. 1992: All independents join conferences (Notre Dame was to join the Big East for all sports with Miami)

2. 1998: #1 vs #2 National Championship game (UT vs FSU)

SEC wins 9 out of 15; 7 in a row (2006 - 2012)

3. 2014: Four team playoff for National Championship

SEC will probably win 6 more in a row

4. 2022 - 2026: 8 team playoff for National Championship

5. 2026 - 2030: 16 team playoff for National Championship

Lesson learned: Never say Never.

(05-06-2013 11:57 AM)KennesawEagle Wrote:  I don't know if 16 will happen any time soon. But I can see 8 teams happening within 10 years.

The trigger for that will likely be (other than just seeing the money left at the table) when a Bama/ND/Ohio St/USC get left out at #5.

Going to 16 is going to be a much tougher task I'm afraid. It's going to be difficult to convince people that the top team isn't being represented by the first 8 teams.

I'll take 8 though. At least it gives one of us some sort of shot at getting in. Even if it is an outside shot.

It will happen as soon. It will just take time for enough "deserving" schools to get left out from each conference. The SEC should already want to expand as they are going to get shafted out the gate. Let Ohio State get left out with one loss with a two SEC teams in and that will be that.

The biggest push back might be dropping the 12th game and going to an 11 game schedule for all but 8 or 16 teams. That's a lot of lost sales from tickets, parking, etc. I hope they find a way to make it work. The December Dance might be the most exciting thing in sports.

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I wonder why this never enters the conversation.

Name the one sport in all three divisions of the NCAA that the NCAA itself doesn't sanction.

If you guessed 1-A football you are correct. Why on earth does the NCAA and therefore the schools outsource potentially the most profitable postseason tournament? If the NCAA's ran the football postseason, rather than the bowls themselves, teams and conferences would rake in the money, instead of breaking even at best.

https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/3...1583923200

I have been begging for a playoff system for years, I have even had an article published on the topic a few years back. At 4 teams only the SEC and a couple other power conferences have a shot at a national title. At 8 teams there is a long shot that a team from a smaller conference makes the playoffs, you would still have to go undefeated, and the only way the SEC goes for this format is if they can get more of their teams in the playoffs. 16 teams are ideal and it gives every conference a legitimate shot at the beginning of the year of making it into the playoffs.

step back into reality 16 teams would be extremely difficult to manage for a number of reasons

fans are not going to be able to just take off of work at the last minute to go to 2-4 games in a row if their team is winning and when you have the sunbelt as a conference averaging under 18K fans per game in 2010 you need everything with a pulse possible to show up

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...n-10270543

there are not going to be just "college football fans" that show up to playoff games with Sunbelt champ 5-6 north Texas state VS some SEC team and if you try and have it at a neutral site that is all the worse.....and it would be near impossible to have it at the home of the team with the better record because a huge number of "homes" of even major college teams do not have the infrastructure in place to host a game on very short notice or to accommodate the fans and media that would be needed to show up and cover the game

and again if teams are not even getting 18K fans to show up for their regular season games with a great deal of notice and in a known location and on a known date that gives them months and months to plan for how in the hell are they going to get fans to show up to fill a large neutral site venue on short notice and if that type of team was somehow able to pull off a win are they really going to have the fan support to show up again the next week.....hell no and who wants to see a game with a half filled stadium.....and the idea that the SEC team will bring the fans.....yea that pretty much crushes the idea of the small conference team "deserving" to be there.....if you had the fan support, the TV ratings, the history and the like you would be in a major conference instead of sitting around wishing the major conference would give you some of the money they earn with their ratings and fan support

and for those that point to the NFL get real the NFL has only 32 teams and those teams play in major cities that have the infrastructure to support short term notice major events like a home playoff game and those games are played in the cities of the team and those teams are selling out or coming close to selling out their regular season games VS playing in front of 15K fans in a 40K stadium week in and week out and wondering where "show me da moniez" is at

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/...seaso.html

half of the teams in D1-A do not even draw 40K fans week in and week out so pretending that they will get 40K fans to a neutral site to help fill half of an 80K+ stadium is laughable and thinking they will be able to put on a playoff game on short notice at home and draw the same number of fans or more is laughable.....and even worse what about the fans of the "away" team.....like the SEC and the like are going to have their fans be told sorry there are not hotel rooms for you or not seats for you.....talk about asking the major conferences to move on and break away......telling them you are ready to "step up" and then not delivering fans to a neutral site or not having supporting facilities and seats at a home game for their fans.....the answer to that will be SEE YA LATER McNeese State!!!

no one wants to see games in half filled stadiums or in 35K stadiums and no random "college football fan" is going to spend the cash to go see a neutral site game in the first round with a horribly uneven match up especially when they can wait at least a week and see a much better game

the NFL pulls it off because it is 32 teams in major markets not 124 teams half or more of which are in places without regular airline service

the D1-AA pulls it off because they are willing to lose money and don't care that only 15K show up to the first few rounds and only the finals are on TV and that is at a venue that holds 20,500

the idea that mystery fans will flood out of the woodwork for "meaningful" games is the reason that teams with fans that think like that are in the position they are in.....because the teams that are in the position they wish they were in have REAL fans that show up week in and week out for any game year in and year out no matter the record....and telling yourself that those teams and their fans and their viewers owe you something because you "exist" is a joke and will have you left behind sooner than later if you push those "ideals"

Playoff games at the "lower levels" are played at the higher seeds stadium, not neutral sites. Only the championship game is at a neutral site.

Believe it or not, people do travel to those far off games on a weeks notice. Don't use SHSU as an example because their fanbase doesn't even show up for home games, let alone playoffs.

In 2005 we were over our 15,258 capacity, could easily have sold out a 20k+ stadium if we had the room and we played teams from GA, CA and IA. We turned people away and sold out for the semi-final in 2 days. This was a team who had languished in FCS mediocrity for nearly 2 decades. The visiting teams traveled well.
You can't tell me fans, once the thing gets some legs, wouldn't make the arrrangements and go where they had to for a playoff game. Folks from the "big schools" seem to have the money to travel all around the country for 6 games already. I'm sure they'd manage.

You will be surprised what the excitement of a real playoff system will produce.

I don't think more than a 8 team playoff will ever work at the BCS level because of logistics. In FCS maybe a couple hundred fans - a thousand if the game is close - and a handful of press are making travel plans, plane and hotel reservations 6 days prior to the game. With this deal there will be thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of fans, reporters from every major network and print media galore scrambling to make it. Having to make those plans possibly 3 times, during the holiday season, is asking a lot. It would work better if the games were played every 2 weeks starting the second week of December, playing the weekend after Christmas and then the week after New Years for the championship. That is one big reason the bowl system has worked so well for the major conferences. On those off weeks the gang of Five could hold their own playoff, because we all know that bunch isn't going to allow another N Illinois to happen.

(05-06-2013 11:43 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  I don't think more than a 8 team playoff will ever work at the BCS level because of logistics. In FCS maybe a couple hundred fans - a thousand if the game is close - and a handful of press are making travel plans, plane and hotel reservations 6 days prior to the game. With this deal there will be thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of fans, reporters from every major network and print media galore scrambling to make it. Having to make those plans possibly 3 times, during the holiday season, is asking a lot. It would work better if the games were played every 2 weeks starting the second week of December, playing the weekend after Christmas and then the week after New Years for the championship. That is one big reason the bowl system has worked so well for the major conferences. On those off weeks the gang of Five could hold their own playoff, because we all know that bunch isn't going to allow another N Illinois to happen.

You act as if they haven't been doing this for professional sports for years. The big networks have it figured out by now. As far as the fans go they are used to a plethora of games around the holiday season. The only games probably played at a neutral site would be the semis and finals. You wont have a hard time filling seats.

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Rest assured that no matter how large the playoff grows(in number of participants) the semis and finals will be neutral site. I would imagine the if it grows larger than 4, all other games will be played at campus sites.

(05-06-2013 11:21 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Playoff games at the "lower levels" are played at the higher seeds stadium, not neutral sites. Only the championship game is at a neutral site.

Believe it or not, people do travel to those far off games on a weeks notice. Don't use SHSU as an example because their fanbase doesn't even show up for home games, let alone playoffs.

In 2005 we were over our 15,258 capacity, could easily have sold out a 20k+ stadium if we had the room and we played teams from GA, CA and IA. We turned people away and sold out for the semi-final in 2 days. This was a team who had languished in FCS mediocrity for nearly 2 decades. The visiting teams traveled well.
You can't tell me fans, once the thing gets some legs, wouldn't make the arrrangements and go where they had to for a playoff game. Folks from the "big schools" seem to have the money to travel all around the country for 6 games already. I'm sure they'd manage.

You will be surprised what the excitement of a real playoff system will produce.

again hype and not reality

http://dallas.sbnation.com/2012/1/4/2681...-break-fcs

the 2011 FCS championship drew 13,027 and the record was set in 1996 was 32,106

so again unless fans can drive there and there are adequate facilities it will be a joke

and you said if yourself....."IF we had the seats".....that is the problem with playing the game at the home of the team with the better record....so one year you are going to tell 10-3 Alabama sorry you should have gone 11-2 in the Sunbelt like ULM did so here is your 4,000 tickets and good luck getting a hotel room.....again that is a joke and goes directly against everything that is being stated about "what a huge money making event this would be"......because it would be a joke played in a small venue with crappy facilities in a town that would struggle to hold all the people and service them and after a season or two of that the major conference teams would be breaking away and going on their own

the NFL blocks out rooms in all 32 cities for a price year in and year out....that is not possible to do with 124 D1-A teams and again with half of the teams in D1-A being in cities without regularly scheduled air service and enough hotel rooms to hold their regular season fans (if they did bother to show up) you are going to be looking at a disaster when one of those small market teams sneaks in every so often....and if you are talking about having the conference champions all represented (another laugher) then you will have that crap happen every year year in and year out

when pretty much every bowl team out there loses money on a bowl game except those that play in the BCS games (and they just break even because of conference distributions) the idea that all this huge money is left on the table is just BS and a lot of wishful thinking.....if bowl games outside of the BCS had the money they would be offering it up to still move up to the top of the pecking order in the non-BCS games and if their bowl game had the viewers and fan support to demand the networks pay more they would be demanding it

and most of the bowl games don't come close to selling out and many of them offer much better match ups for the random "college football fan" than a Sunbelt or CSUA champion VS the SEC champ because the #2 or #3 in the PAC or Big 12 or Big 10 VS the #2 or #3 in the SEC or ACC is a much better match up and that still will not sell out or draw huge ratings

NCAA basketball is able to make it work because 1. they can play basketball games with a one or no day break so fans of teams can make a trip and know they will have a chance to see their team play more than one game possibly

2. they need many fewer fans to fill a venue

3. with multiple games every day and day after day "basketball fans" can show up and see a bunch of games and even if one sucks they have several more to see

4. they are in major cities that have the needed infrastructure in place to support the crowds and that offer an attraction to the crowd.....take the D1-AA game last year....the north Dakota fans were excited to see their team play, but they were also excited to get to come to a major metro area and shop, dine out, get out of the extreme cold, and see other attractions...just like Arkansas fans used to fill reunion arena back during the SWC games because dallas offered them a destination trip.....going to Monroe, LA....The Little Apple, San Marcos, Waco, Lubbock, Jonesboro and on and on are not destinations and with a single event as the draw people will just not make that trip especially if they think their team will win and they might make a trip for a game of more relevance

again you pointed out one of the MAJOR problems....IF WE HAD THE SEATS....TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.....the major programs are not going to be subjected to having their teams play in "meaningful" home and home playoff games where their fans cannot get a decent allotment of tickets and decent facilities and services and then at the same time when the neutral site games come around those same major programs and their fans are going to be the ones expected to do the heavy lifting and deliver 45K or 50K fans out of 80K+ needed fans to fill a major venue while the other team if they manage to win delivers 25K fans after hosting a playoff game the week before that had 35K or 40K in attendance if that

and the reality is even in Tuscaloosa, The Little Apple and the like there is a chance that something else could be going on when the playoff game comes up....like an FFA convention, some sales meeting, some regional HS football game and on and on.....the hotels in those cities are not just going to hold rooms open and skip booking conventions and other events on the off chance that this year will be the year when we need to have a home playoff game they simply can't afford to.....for every team like Alabama in the SEC there is a team like MSU or Ole' Miss that might one year make a playoff and need to have a home game, but 15 out of 16 years that won't happen or in the PAC....Cal, WSU and several others would be in a dire situation if they had to hose a home game on short notice.....but once in a blue moon they will, but the facilities on those places are not just going to hold themselves open year in and year out to accommodate that...same with TAMU, ISU, TTU, KSU, KU, BU and on and on and on....they are going to book other things a year or more in advance because they have to to keep the doors open year in and year out and a lot of those places will have already booked high school championships and the like as well and the hotels will be booked or partially booked along with the stadium

and yes many of those places host large crowds during the regular season, but those games are scheduled a year or more in advance....look what it does to the attendance of even decent programs if they have a game moved from a Sat to a Thursday night or a Friday night with only a few months notice....it cost them thousands of live fans at least over and over that happens.....now try having a playoff game scheduled a week in advance and see how you get hotels ready, fans to get days off, travel plans and on and on.....you won't you will have a failure and people not having a good time because their rooms were over booked, they could not get anything to eat for hours and on and on

hell two years ago Texas Tech had expanded their stadium by 5K or 6K and had switched concessions companies and they ran out of water and other non-alcoholic drinks in the beginning of the third quarter and had fans passing out and that was with a nationally know concessions company operating the new contract......you don't just get food and beverages and police presence and on and on for 60K+ people together in a week for a playoff game that was decided the week before.....people that believe that crap are clueless and have no idea what it takes to get a game together......parking attendants, concession stand vendors, security, hotel staff, restaurant staff, Cstore staff, cleaning crews, gasoline supplies, emergency utility workers (the lights do go out see the superbowl) and on and on.....those people are not just sitting around on standby especially in cities of 200K or less waiting to see if a playoff is coming next week

and again for those that want to say look at the NFL.....the NFL has 32 teams, they are all in major markets or very very close to a major market in the case of Greenbay, and they DO block out rooms and have people on standby waiting for the playoffs and that is not possible with 124 D1-A teams or even half that amount

So basically, the almighty BCS/FBS can't pull off what FCS, D2 and D3 have been doing for years? Is that what you're saying? Don't say no because you are.

Oh, and right now the BCS gets the bulk of the money. That's why schools and the NCAA are not. In the playoffs, the schools would get the money, not a group of guys hiding behind a curtain collecting millions of dollars that schools would get if they had the guts to say no to the BCS and return the FBS to the NCAA. In that aspect you're right, because a lot of ADs are in the BCS's pocket. A monopoly at its finest.

Still hard to believe that the BCS monster was allowed to be made in Dr. Frankenstein's lab.
NCAA should have continued to fight it even after they lost the SCOTUS decision.

(05-07-2013 12:09 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(05-06-2013 11:21 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Playoff games at the "lower levels" are played at the higher seeds stadium, not neutral sites. Only the championship game is at a neutral site.

Believe it or not, people do travel to those far off games on a weeks notice. Don't use SHSU as an example because their fanbase doesn't even show up for home games, let alone playoffs.

In 2005 we were over our 15,258 capacity, could easily have sold out a 20k+ stadium if we had the room and we played teams from GA, CA and IA. We turned people away and sold out for the semi-final in 2 days. This was a team who had languished in FCS mediocrity for nearly 2 decades. The visiting teams traveled well.
You can't tell me fans, once the thing gets some legs, wouldn't make the arrrangements and go where they had to for a playoff game. Folks from the "big schools" seem to have the money to travel all around the country for 6 games already. I'm sure they'd manage.

You will be surprised what the excitement of a real playoff system will produce.

again hype and not reality

http://dallas.sbnation.com/2012/1/4/2681...-break-fcs

the 2011 FCS championship drew 13,027 and the record was set in 1996 was 32,106

so again unless fans can drive there and there are adequate facilities it will be a joke

and you said if yourself....."IF we had the seats".....that is the problem with playing the game at the home of the team with the better record....so one year you are going to tell 10-3 Alabama sorry you should have gone 11-2 in the Sunbelt like ULM did so here is your 4,000 tickets and good luck getting a hotel room.....again that is a joke and goes directly against everything that is being stated about "what a huge money making event this would be"......because it would be a joke played in a small venue with crappy facilities in a town that would struggle to hold all the people and service them and after a season or two of that the major conference teams would be breaking away and going on their own

the NFL blocks out rooms in all 32 cities for a price year in and year out....that is not possible to do with 124 D1-A teams and again with half of the teams in D1-A being in cities without regularly scheduled air service and enough hotel rooms to hold their regular season fans (if they did bother to show up) you are going to be looking at a disaster when one of those small market teams sneaks in every so often....and if you are talking about having the conference champions all represented (another laugher) then you will have that crap happen every year year in and year out

when pretty much every bowl team out there loses money on a bowl game except those that play in the BCS games (and they just break even because of conference distributions) the idea that all this huge money is left on the table is just BS and a lot of wishful thinking.....if bowl games outside of the BCS had the money they would be offering it up to still move up to the top of the pecking order in the non-BCS games and if their bowl game had the viewers and fan support to demand the networks pay more they would be demanding it

and most of the bowl games don't come close to selling out and many of them offer much better match ups for the random "college football fan" than a Sunbelt or CSUA champion VS the SEC champ because the #2 or #3 in the PAC or Big 12 or Big 10 VS the #2 or #3 in the SEC or ACC is a much better match up and that still will not sell out or draw huge ratings

NCAA basketball is able to make it work because 1. they can play basketball games with a one or no day break so fans of teams can make a trip and know they will have a chance to see their team play more than one game possibly

2. they need many fewer fans to fill a venue

3. with multiple games every day and day after day "basketball fans" can show up and see a bunch of games and even if one sucks they have several more to see

4. they are in major cities that have the needed infrastructure in place to support the crowds and that offer an attraction to the crowd.....take the D1-AA game last year....the north Dakota fans were excited to see their team play, but they were also excited to get to come to a major metro area and shop, dine out, get out of the extreme cold, and see other attractions...just like Arkansas fans used to fill reunion arena back during the SWC games because dallas offered them a destination trip.....going to Monroe, LA....The Little Apple, San Marcos, Waco, Lubbock, Jonesboro and on and on are not destinations and with a single event as the draw people will just not make that trip especially if they think their team will win and they might make a trip for a game of more relevance

again you pointed out one of the MAJOR problems....IF WE HAD THE SEATS....TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.....the major programs are not going to be subjected to having their teams play in "meaningful" home and home playoff games where their fans cannot get a decent allotment of tickets and decent facilities and services and then at the same time when the neutral site games come around those same major programs and their fans are going to be the ones expected to do the heavy lifting and deliver 45K or 50K fans out of 80K+ needed fans to fill a major venue while the other team if they manage to win delivers 25K fans after hosting a playoff game the week before that had 35K or 40K in attendance if that

and the reality is even in Tuscaloosa, The Little Apple and the like there is a chance that something else could be going on when the playoff game comes up....like an FFA convention, some sales meeting, some regional HS football game and on and on.....the hotels in those cities are not just going to hold rooms open and skip booking conventions and other events on the off chance that this year will be the year when we need to have a home playoff game they simply can't afford to.....for every team like Alabama in the SEC there is a team like MSU or Ole' Miss that might one year make a playoff and need to have a home game, but 15 out of 16 years that won't happen or in the PAC....Cal, WSU and several others would be in a dire situation if they had to hose a home game on short notice.....but once in a blue moon they will, but the facilities on those places are not just going to hold themselves open year in and year out to accommodate that...same with TAMU, ISU, TTU, KSU, KU, BU and on and on and on....they are going to book other things a year or more in advance because they have to to keep the doors open year in and year out and a lot of those places will have already booked high school championships and the like as well and the hotels will be booked or partially booked along with the stadium

and yes many of those places host large crowds during the regular season, but those games are scheduled a year or more in advance....look what it does to the attendance of even decent programs if they have a game moved from a Sat to a Thursday night or a Friday night with only a few months notice....it cost them thousands of live fans at least over and over that happens.....now try having a playoff game scheduled a week in advance and see how you get hotels ready, fans to get days off, travel plans and on and on.....you won't you will have a failure and people not having a good time because their rooms were over booked, they could not get anything to eat for hours and on and on

hell two years ago Texas Tech had expanded their stadium by 5K or 6K and had switched concessions companies and they ran out of water and other non-alcoholic drinks in the beginning of the third quarter and had fans passing out and that was with a nationally know concessions company operating the new contract......you don't just get food and beverages and police presence and on and on for 60K+ people together in a week for a playoff game that was decided the week before.....people that believe that crap are clueless and have no idea what it takes to get a game together......parking attendants, concession stand vendors, security, hotel staff, restaurant staff, Cstore staff, cleaning crews, gasoline supplies, emergency utility workers (the lights do go out see the superbowl) and on and on.....those people are not just sitting around on standby especially in cities of 200K or less waiting to see if a playoff is coming next week

and again for those that want to say look at the NFL.....the NFL has 32 teams, they are all in major markets or very very close to a major market in the case of Greenbay, and they DO block out rooms and have people on standby waiting for the playoffs and that is not possible with 124 D1-A teams or even half that amount

Uh ooookkk. Settle down there sport. IF an expanded playoff system failed it wouldn't be for the reasons you gave. 1st off the home field would go to the higher seeded team not just the one with a better record. Second, if a town or city can already handle a sold out regular season it can handle a sold out playoff game. The stadium isnt getting expanded that much for one game. Also the plan on here is to have the big semis and final at a predetermined site.
My school just showed where there is a will, there's a way.

I just want to point out that in the NCAA-sanctioned 1-AA playoffs, sometimes the higher seed travels to the lower seed because their home stadium isn't big enough or would not generate the revenue the lower seed would. I could see that model replicated.

(05-07-2013 05:32 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Uh ooookkk. Settle down there sport. IF an expanded playoff system failed it wouldn't be for the reasons you gave. 1st off the home field would go to the higher seeded team not just the one with a better record. Second, if a town or city can already handle a sold out regular season it can handle a sold out playoff game. The stadium isnt getting expanded that much for one game. Also the plan on here is to have the big semis and final at a predetermined site.
My school just showed where there is a will, there's a way.

Exactly.

Giving examples of Sun Belt teams hosting is sort of crazy. It just wouldnt happen due to the higest ranked team hosting and regardless of how high one of us could get ranked, they are never going to rank us high enough to host instead of an SEC team. Now if you used the model I suggested, the first round would only be between non-AQ conference members - but then you get the equal to a regular season game held on campus. The one team in our conference that would have a big facilitiy advantage would be GaSt. If on campus ever became a real problem - which would probably mean that the playoff game at that point was drawing more than a regular season game, then we COULD pre-determine the first round game would be held in the biggest facility town in the host team's conference. So if a Sun Belt team hosted a first round game, it would be in Atlanta at that point, but I dont see that happening. The "Big Boys" wouldnt care where us little guys fought it out for the final two playoff spots anyway. The conference face offs might need to be regionalized two. Meaning the Sun Belt champ might always face off against the CUSA champ in the first round. That would create some great interest and cross conference rivalries! It would just be eaiser for fans to travel to games within their own conference footprint which you might get in that case.

The next round would be at BCS sites. Those teams will have had at least 2 weeks to prepare to host the winner of the first round. Now I suggessted that the highest ranked non conference winner got to play the lowest ranked of those first two. I like rewarding the regular season play with a preceived eaiser game, but the reality might work out better for attendance to give them the which every team that is closer and eaiser for fans to get to.

Most of this concern on the host team can be taken care of in the bid process. In the FCS, at least the way it used to be.. The Host program must bid on a minium number of ticket sales and have the facilities to handle the game. Untill one of us got into a position to host and could make those claims, we would be traveling to the BCS stadium.

As far as the money goes. Unless these games were Bowl Games held at neutral sites, then the Bowl fat cats are cut out. This should give one team a big pay day and the other should at least break even as the host team should have to cover a minium travel amount to the visiting team. Hey, imagine one of us actually earning the host spot and then "selling" that to a BCS team, essientally hosting the game at their house. They get another home game, we get the largest portion of the gate splits after cost. Even if it was 60/40 that would be HUGE for us I think. But again, it would be very hard to get ranked that high.

And travel issues/$ are an issue around Christmas time especially, but rabid fans are going to find away. Going to these games will become Christmas presents for a lot of people the same way bowl tickets are now. I'm not worried about college football fans not showing up to games that could send their team to a National championship. Not going to bowl games is one thing, the playoffs will mean a lot more to a team imop.