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RE: Softball and Baseball Belt Tourny
(05-09-2013 05:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-09-2013 05:46 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote: game 7 is over. WKU wins. looking forward to this USA UL game.
It should be a good one!
GO JAGS!
(05-09-2013 09:39 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: (05-09-2013 08:26 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: (05-09-2013 04:19 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote: Anytime you want to compare attendance figures and the numbers of games telecast regionally and nationally between the two sports, let me know. While volleyball might be a big deal in Texas, UTA-JC is not the Texas Longhorns or the PAC 10 for freaking sakes, so in no way because your volleyball program is good does it come close to Texas. UL softball program has been and continues to be a national program against the likes of the PAC 10 and SEC programs.
Volleyball is still a great women's sport, but in no way does it rival basketball and softball in pure numbers as far as attendance and telecast games. Do your freaking homework Sports Caster wanna-be!
You obviously didn't read squat, so not only are you insecure about your school, you have a hard time reading and staying on topic. Let me point out the relevant parts of my post.
(05-08-2013 07:31 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: UTA had a similar thing in volleyball up until a few years into this century. We would appear on NCAA attendance lists. We made a lot of sweet sixteen runs and made the Final Four. The tenure of our current coach has been bad by our standards. We have had 11 losing seasons since the founding in 1973. She has presided over 5 of them, including four of the last five seasons (the one winning season was a 17-15).
Attendance has taken a nose dive, even counting the new arena.
We were (notice the past tense) national players, consistently in the top ten from the programs founding in the mid-70's to the early '90's, which is a helluva run. UCLA hired away our coach, Lisa Love, and we had been regional powers, but not national as we once (notice the past tense again) were. Our current coach has presided over a tenure where we aren't even that.
As far as the PAC-10 or Texas comment, in the NCAA volleyball tournament, UTA has wins over Texas, Arizona State, Kentucky, North Carolina, LSU and Pepperdine. We were (again, please take not of the tense) every bit as good in volleyball as ya'll are in softball.
The ironic thing about this peeing contest was ya'll got offended when I brought up volleyball as an example to give your program praise. Someone from Arkansas State said he couldn't see the allure of softball, ya'll said part of it was winning. I agreed, giving our example. Our volleyball program was (past tense, you see) every bit what your softball program was. After football, it was the second most attended sport on campus. Even up until a decade or so, it still was, outdrawing softball, baseball and women's basketball. Many old-timers are very upset with our program's direction, same as ya'll would be if you hit such a mediocrity stretch.
Seriously, you guys are the most insecure fans I have ever seen at any level. I was defending and admiring your softball program and then ya'll have to get all crazy. Seriously, you won two low-level bowl games after one season above .500 in the previous 15 seasons and one season above 7 wins since 1970. Your softball team is special, baseball has a good run, but nothing consistent like your softball team but the rest of your programs are average at best overall, just like the rest of the SBC at this point.
I mean Jesus, you get passed over for a C-USA invite and are all upset because you think you are such an awesome mid-major. You aren't a Gonzaga, Cal St-Fullerton or Pepperdine. Win a national championship in something, (your softball team has one top four finish, just like our volleyball) and maybe proceed from there. Look at the Bubas Cup, ya'll are 8th out of 12, just ahead of Georgia State, who isn't eligible for half the sports. And I don't give a rat's A if you don't care about those sports. They are beating you, end of story. When the rest of their teams arrive next year, you may finish ahead of Monroe, Troy and Southern, cause you ain't beating us or Texas State.
(05-09-2013 04:40 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote: If you're going to attack someone's stance, then at least get your facts straight. UL/Louisiana/Ragin' Cajuns (not Louisiana-Lafayette, stop being a disrespectful douche) has had some down years in women's volleyball, but the program in its current state is NOT god-awful. I'd call them mediocre but still competitive. I'm anxious to see if HMF can get the team over the hump in the coming years because they tend to hover around .500.
You reap what you sow. I didn't start this. I started out by praising the support the softball team got by citing a fairly close example at UTA. Then the douchtastic turn this thread took was in response to that.
Your volleyball team has had seven winning seasons since 1991, of which three of those were one-game over .500. I stand by my statement.
Now, I don't like thread derailments, so I'll return it to the conference tournament with one last thought. We are all in this together. When the conference does well, we all do well. Whether it is two teams in volleyball, as was the case for six years, or in softball, as with USA and your softball team, we all benefit. However, in the brief time I have been on this forum, the only teams fans that seem to be of a different mind is ULL's. Even MTSU and WKU fans are more supportive of the Sun Belt than ya'll. And that is sad.
Let me spell this out for you since you continue to play this freaking fantasy game. What your program has done in the 1970’s or 1990’s carries very little relevance today. You are not playing some fantasy video game were you plug in the stats of your powerful volleyball team of the 70’s against the top Sun Belt programs today and project how the UTA team of 2013 will finish in the conference. There are no athletes playing freaking volleyball in your program today from your great teams of the 70’s. To continuously come back to this thread and explain how your volleyball program was great and how you will compete against the Sun Belt based upon what those teams accomplished is freaking idiotic at best.
Secondly, in the realm of female college sports today volleyball is hardly the icon it was in the 70’s, 80’s or even the 90’s. In terms of what national attention it brings to a conference, it ranks below basketball and softball today and certainly no more than woman’s soccer which increases in popularity every year. Regardless of how much our volleyball program sucks, your vaunted volleyball program carries as much weight as women’s tennis, track & field, bowling, gymnastics or swimming to a conference. In fact, I’m sure some could make an argument that several of the after mentioned women sports carry more relevance then volleyball today. The bottom-line, very few people outside the 50 or so that attend volleyball games on campus give a crap about the sport and certainly nowhere near the numbers for softball today.
Memo, UTA hasn’t accomplished jack in this conference and until they do you can shelve those historical stats and continue to play your video games of Ultimate NCAA Volleyball 2013!
you are a damn fool if you think that volleyball does not get the same amount of coverage as softball. or the similar attendance. as before stated volleyball's season is much more crowded on tv than is softball...
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