(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

I suppose you do follow all the tenets.

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

(05-05-2013 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

If you don't believe Christ was *GOD* then you're not a Christian. If you don't believe that you are a sinner who needs salvation which is only attainable because of the Cross then you're not a Christian.

Im not judging anybody, just stating a fact.

Next they'll tell us Scientologists are Christians. And Muslims.

(05-05-2013 05:22 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Next they'll tell us Scientologists are Christians. And Muslims.

No but I will tell you you are an idiot.

(05-05-2013 06:08 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 05:22 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Next they'll tell us Scientologists are Christians. And Muslims.

No but I will tell you you are an idiot.

Just curious, how many warning points you sitting on these days?

(05-05-2013 07:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 06:08 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 05:22 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Next they'll tell us Scientologists are Christians. And Muslims.

No but I will tell you you are an idiot.

Just curious, how many warning points you sitting on these days?

Ha. I was going to make a thread the other day about that but I am at 0%.

(05-05-2013 07:38 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 07:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 06:08 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 05:22 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Next they'll tell us Scientologists are Christians. And Muslims.

No but I will tell you you are an idiot.

Just curious, how many warning points you sitting on these days?

Ha. I was going to make a thread the other day about that but I am at 0%.

You disappointed him Robert.

(05-05-2013 04:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

If you don't believe Christ was *GOD* then you're not a Christian. If you don't believe that you are a sinner who needs salvation which is only attainable because of the Cross then you're not a Christian.

Im not judging anybody, just stating a fact.

It sounded like you were saying that a real christian couldn't vote dem.

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

Oh boy, a church with 200,000 members is really digging in to the Democratic voting base. Are you that desperate to hold the belief that the Democratic party is ungodly?

(05-05-2013 09:29 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

If you don't believe Christ was *GOD* then you're not a Christian. If you don't believe that you are a sinner who needs salvation which is only attainable because of the Cross then you're not a Christian.

Im not judging anybody, just stating a fact.

It sounded like you were saying that a real christian couldn't vote dem.

Never said that... But I'd be surprised a real christian could vote for a pro abortion candidate..

(05-05-2013 09:35 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 09:29 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

If you don't believe Christ was *GOD* then you're not a Christian. If you don't believe that you are a sinner who needs salvation which is only attainable because of the Cross then you're not a Christian.

Im not judging anybody, just stating a fact.

It sounded like you were saying that a real christian couldn't vote dem.

Never said that... But I'd be surprised a real christian could vote for a pro abortion candidate..

I'm surprised a real Christian could vote for a party that supports an endless war in the middle east.

(05-05-2013 09:33 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

Oh boy, a church with 200,000 members is really digging in to the Democratic voting base. Are you that desperate to hold the belief that the Democratic party is ungodly?

Are you familiar with the word "like"?

There are plenty of ridiculous happy happy joy joy churches which are not Christ centered but centered on Man. Not all of them are lefties but most tend to be. An example of the churches on the right that fit that mold would be prosperity gospel churches.

(05-05-2013 09:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 09:33 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:47 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Sure. But some people will take that as an argument that they aren't Christian. I wanted to make to clear that Christianity is still a large majority. According to my link, 43% of protestants and 48% of Catholics are or lean democrat.

I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

Oh boy, a church with 200,000 members is really digging in to the Democratic voting base. Are you that desperate to hold the belief that the Democratic party is ungodly?

Are you familiar with the phrase "like the"

Nearly half of protestants are Democrats. I'm pretty sure that Universalist churches don't count as protestant. Also, you're totally using the No True Scotsman argument. I'm sure you've already heard all about how it's a logical fallacy.

(05-05-2013 09:38 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Nearly half of protestants are Democrats. I'm pretty sure that Universalist churches don't count as protestant.

Yes... They do, any church which is Christan and not Orthodox (Roman, Greek, Coptic) is pretty much considered to be protestant.

Quote:Also, you're totally using the No True Scotsman argument. I'm sure you've already heard all about how it's a logical fallacy.

A cat is not a dog and no matter how many obedience classes they take they will never be a dog.

Christianity has theological building blocks. some of them are structural matters of faith and the other make for interesting theological debate.

If you don't believe Mohammad received the Koran you're not a Muslim. If you don't believe in reincarnation you're not a Hindu, and if you don't believe that Christ is not hte savior then you're not a christian.

(05-05-2013 09:35 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 09:29 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:56 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 04:13 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 02:59 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I got new for you..

If they dont adhere to the basic tenets of Christianity they are not Christians. People like Unitarians are not actually Christian.

There it is.

You see? They're not Christian enough.

If you don't believe Christ was *GOD* then you're not a Christian. If you don't believe that you are a sinner who needs salvation which is only attainable because of the Cross then you're not a Christian.

Im not judging anybody, just stating a fact.

It sounded like you were saying that a real christian couldn't vote dem.

Never said that... But I'd be surprised a real christian could vote for a pro abortion candidate..

Sure they could. They could understand that religious doctrine is not the basis for public policy and vote on other issues.

(05-05-2013 09:50 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 09:38 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  Nearly half of protestants are Democrats. I'm pretty sure that Universalist churches don't count as protestant.

Yes... They do, any church which is Christan and not Orthodox (Roman, Greek, Coptic) is pretty much considered to be protestant.

Quote:Also, you're totally using the No True Scotsman argument. I'm sure you've already heard all about how it's a logical fallacy.

A cat is not a dog and no matter how many obedience classes they take they will never be a dog.

Christianity has theological building blocks. some of them are structural matters of faith and the other make for interesting theological debate.

If you don't believe Mohammad received the Koran you're not a Muslim. If you don't believe in reincarnation you're not a Hindu, and if you don't believe that Christ is not hte savior then you're not a christian.

I seems that you have a misunderstanding of categorization. A the difference between a cat and a dog and what you claim is a christian or not is night and day.

Every person that is a protestant Christian follows Christ. I don't see why this was ever an issue.

(05-05-2013 10:24 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  I seems that you have a misunderstanding of categorization. A the difference between a cat and a dog and what you claim is a christian or not is night and day.

Not to a Christian...

Quote:Every person that is a protestant Christian follows Christ. I don't see why this was ever an issue.

I've known "Christian Buddhist"...
-Not Christian.

I've known "Christians" who are not sure Christ was God
-Not Christian.

There is no committee to vet "protestant Churches", there are plenty of them that don't hold to any Christian Theological underpinnings.

(05-05-2013 11:06 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-05-2013 10:24 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  I seems that you have a misunderstanding of categorization. A the difference between a cat and a dog and what you claim is a christian or not is night and day.

Not to a Christian...

Quote:Every person that is a protestant Christian follows Christ. I don't see why this was ever an issue.

I've known "Christian Buddhist"...
-Not Christian.

I've known "Christians" who are not sure Christ was God
-Not Christian.

There is no committee to vet "protestant Churches", there are plenty of them that don't hold to any Christian Theological underpinnings.

You have no idea what you are talking about. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since you guys were willing to kill each other over this in past centuries.