http://www.statesman.com/ap/ap/texas/fra...ate/nXf9w/

We have a lot of good coaches in the SBC.

Yall play a SBC schedule this year right?

(05-03-2013 10:09 AM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  Yall play a SBC schedule this year right?

Ga Southern doesn't get into the SBC fun until 2014:
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/sun-b...hedule.php

Texas State has a SBC schedule this year:
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/sun-b...hedule.php

I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

(05-03-2013 10:09 AM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  Yall play a SBC schedule this year right?

Yes

This article has Texas State playing in the SBC in 2014. We are conference and bowl eligible this year.

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

(05-03-2013 12:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

C'mon Man, Don't you call 10-14 WINNING?

(05-03-2013 01:36 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 12:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

C'mon Man, Don't you call 10-14 WINNING?

To be fair we played some powerhouses like SUU and UTSA.

Roll Tide!

(05-03-2013 01:37 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:36 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 12:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

C'mon Man, Don't you call 10-14 WINNING?

To be fair we played some powerhouses like SUU and UTSA.

. . . and that last one STILL makes me SICK . . .

(05-03-2013 01:40 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:37 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:36 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 12:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  [quote='slycat' pid='9292343' dateline='1367594693']
I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

C'mon Man, Don't you call 10-14 WINNING?

To be fair we played some powerhouses like SUU and UTSA.

. . . and that last one STILL makes me SICK . . .
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I just wish you guys were in our conference again. Maybe one day soon hopefully.

(05-03-2013 07:51 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:40 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:37 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 01:36 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 12:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  [quote='slycat' pid='9292343' dateline='1367594693']
I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

Recruits also like winning.

C'mon Man, Don't you call 10-14 WINNING?

To be fair we played some powerhouses like SUU and UTSA.

. . . and that last one STILL makes me SICK . . .
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I just wish you guys were in our conference again. Maybe one day soon hopefully.

It would be good for both schools . . . . has the makings of a great rivalry

Amazing this guy got another HC job, much less an extension.

RTR!

(05-05-2013 10:17 PM)SunBelt Watcher Wrote:  Amazing this guy got another HC job, much less an extension.

RTR!

I'm a Texas State fan and I'm glad we have Franchione. I don't think we could get a better coach for the price that we are paying him...but I'm also realistic. I don't agree with everything that he does or some of the decisions he makes.

However I'm not sure I understand where this comment is coming from. The guy has 200 wins as a head coach (like 4th among active coaches), he has 8 conference championships in 27 years as a HC, he is a pretty good coach at taking over struggling programs and rebuilding them. He was successful at turning around New Mexico and TCU. At Alabama he took over a 3-8 program with huge attendance problems and posted 7-5 and 10-3 seasons. He underachieved at Texas A&M but he took over that program, they were in the Big 12 South, which at the time had a very good Texas and Oklahoma, and a pretty good Texas Tech and Ok State. None of those programs (save Ok State and Texas in 2008) are any where close to being as good as they were from 2003-2006.

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

(05-07-2013 10:53 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

Yeah I understand the pay bump and thats fair, its just the extra years, I don't think hes earned yet.

(05-07-2013 10:56 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 10:53 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

Yeah I understand the pay bump and thats fair, its just the extra years, I don't think hes earned yet.

Me either sly but, you know how our dysfunctional AD and staff work.
New contract, effective 2014, good for 5 yrs. (as always) adds those 2 yrs. I just SMH and, as sad as it sounds, it has become the expected rather than the exception.

(05-07-2013 10:53 AM)CatMom Wrote:  To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

No, they didn't have to extend him.

Saying otherwise excuses this act of stupidity.

Don't care that he felt he was underpaid. He hadn't earned an extension.

(05-07-2013 10:56 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 10:53 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

Yeah I understand the pay bump and thats fair, its just the extra years, I don't think hes earned yet.

My guess is the extra years talk went something like this,

"We've had two of our best recruiting cycles in school history. Last year was the best in the WAC and this year is the best in the SBC. I've even got some kids on the hook for the upcoming year, but my contract is coming up. It's hard for me to recruit kids if they don't think I am going to be here."

(05-07-2013 11:14 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 10:56 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 10:53 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 10:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  I question this extension just because he hasn't proven much yet. He has recruited well but the loss to UTSA last year alone should have this hold off a little longer. We gave our last bball coach an extension when he looked to be improving hte program and we got stuck with sub .500 basketball for much longer. Buying out contracts more then one year hasn't been an option for us.

Hope this proves to be a smart choice.

Though recruits usually like the idea of their coach sticking around.

To be honest, it was more a renegotiation than anything. I understand they added 2 years but I guess, being as we seem to do contracts in 5 yr. increments, they had to do it this way.
We just hired Kaspar @ 270K plus 100K in incentives. If you're going to have the head BB coach able to reach 370K you best be paying your FB coach a little bit more.
(and 400K is still low even by SBC standards)

Yeah I understand the pay bump and thats fair, its just the extra years, I don't think hes earned yet.

My guess is the extra years talk went something like this,

"We've had two of our best recruiting cycles in school history. Last year was the best in the WAC and this year is the best in the SBC. I've even got some kids on the hook for the upcoming year, but my contract is coming up. It's hard for me to recruit kids if they don't think I am going to be here."

Or they talked about the good old days at TCU and then once Larry was laughing Fran asked for more moeny and an extension.