(05-04-2013 08:04 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 06:43 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 04:58 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:29 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  FSU beat Florida two years ago (Fla won last year). Clemson beat LSU 4 months ago. How more recent do you want it?

Neither Florida nor LSU has won the SEC for some time...

BTW, Tavon Austin just scored on Clemson again...

I guess that "some time" can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Both LSU and Florida have won the SEC within the past 5 years - LSU 2 years ago and Florida 5 years ago.

In addition, Florida tied for the SEC East last year but failed to get a shot at the championship due to the vagaries of a tie breaker.

Whatever dude. The ACC still only has 3 BCS bowl wins since the BCS was created. The ACC has lost 5 times as many BCS bowls as they've won...

But that's not what we were talking about. You said the top ACC teams couldn't beat the top SEC teams. Well they can and there's recent data to prove it.

Until they do it in a BCS bowl game, like WVU did with SEC Champion Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl (moved to Atlanta because of Hurricane Katrina), they haven't done it. When the ACC Champion beats the SEC Champion you can crow all you want. Until that happens, saying the ACC's best can beat the SEC's best is a false claim...

(05-04-2013 08:35 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:04 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 06:43 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 04:58 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Neither Florida nor LSU has won the SEC for some time...

BTW, Tavon Austin just scored on Clemson again...

I guess that "some time" can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Both LSU and Florida have won the SEC within the past 5 years - LSU 2 years ago and Florida 5 years ago.

In addition, Florida tied for the SEC East last year but failed to get a shot at the championship due to the vagaries of a tie breaker.

Whatever dude. The ACC still only has 3 BCS bowl wins since the BCS was created. The ACC has lost 5 times as many BCS bowls as they've won...

But that's not what we were talking about. You said the top ACC teams couldn't beat the top SEC teams. Well they can and there's recent data to prove it.

Until they do it in a BCS bowl game, like WVU did with SEC Champion Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl (moved to Atlanta because of Hurricane Katrina), they haven't done it. When the ACC Champion beats the SEC Champion you can crow all you want. Until that happens, saying the ACC's best can beat the SEC's best is a false claim...

That's way too many rules my friend. First you say best teams. Now you say it has to be a BCS bowl game. Then you say it has to be the ACC champion vs SEC champion. Because of the BCS bowl tie ins, the ACC doesn't get to play the SEC much. As a matter of fact, the ACC hasn't played the SEC in a BCS bowl since 2005. That's 8 freakin' years ago.

(05-04-2013 08:41 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:35 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:04 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 06:43 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 04:58 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I guess that "some time" can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Both LSU and Florida have won the SEC within the past 5 years - LSU 2 years ago and Florida 5 years ago.

In addition, Florida tied for the SEC East last year but failed to get a shot at the championship due to the vagaries of a tie breaker.

Whatever dude. The ACC still only has 3 BCS bowl wins since the BCS was created. The ACC has lost 5 times as many BCS bowls as they've won...

But that's not what we were talking about. You said the top ACC teams couldn't beat the top SEC teams. Well they can and there's recent data to prove it.

Until they do it in a BCS bowl game, like WVU did with SEC Champion Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl (moved to Atlanta because of Hurricane Katrina), they haven't done it. When the ACC Champion beats the SEC Champion you can crow all you want. Until that happens, saying the ACC's best can beat the SEC's best is a false claim...

That's way too many rules my friend. First you say best teams. Now you say it has to be a BCS bowl game. Then you say it has to be the ACC champion vs SEC champion. Because of the BCS bowl tie ins, the ACC doesn't get to play the SEC much. As a matter of fact, the ACC hasn't played the SEC in a BCS bowl since 2005. That's 8 freakin' years ago.

They haven't been worthy of such a match up in that long. There's a reason for that, which is what I've been saying, and you've been ignoring, all this time...

(05-04-2013 08:43 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:41 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:35 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:04 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 06:43 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Whatever dude. The ACC still only has 3 BCS bowl wins since the BCS was created. The ACC has lost 5 times as many BCS bowls as they've won...

But that's not what we were talking about. You said the top ACC teams couldn't beat the top SEC teams. Well they can and there's recent data to prove it.

Until they do it in a BCS bowl game, like WVU did with SEC Champion Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl (moved to Atlanta because of Hurricane Katrina), they haven't done it. When the ACC Champion beats the SEC Champion you can crow all you want. Until that happens, saying the ACC's best can beat the SEC's best is a false claim...

That's way too many rules my friend. First you say best teams. Now you say it has to be a BCS bowl game. Then you say it has to be the ACC champion vs SEC champion. Because of the BCS bowl tie ins, the ACC doesn't get to play the SEC much. As a matter of fact, the ACC hasn't played the SEC in a BCS bowl since 2005. That's 8 freakin' years ago.

They haven't been worthy of such a match up in that long. There's a reason for that, which is what I've been saying, and you've been ignoring, all this time...

Has nothing to do with worthiness. SEC is tied to the Sugar Bowl. ACC is tied to the Orange Bowl. Big East didn't have a tie so you could put them wherever you wanted to.

(05-04-2013 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:29 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 11:58 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 11:37 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  But the best teams in the ACC can beat the SEC's best. There were times when FSU beat Florida. FSU won 2 years ago and won 2 of the last 3. Miami can beat Florida. Clemson has lost 4 in a row to SC but before that Clemson won 10 out of 12. Clemson can beat SC. GT is struggling against UGA right now, but GT is not one of the ACC's best.

There were times. That says a lot right there. This ain't one of them times...

FSU beat Florida two years ago (Fla won last year). Clemson beat LSU 4 months ago. How more recent do you want it?

Neither Florida nor LSU has won the SEC for some time...

BTW, Tavon Austin just scored on Clemson again...

Ryan Nassib, Prince Tyson Gulley, Jerome Smith, Alec Lemon and Marcus Sales have all just scored on WV again.














I couldnt help myself Bit.

Does anyone have the numbers for the FCS by program and conference?

(05-04-2013 10:13 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:15 AM)BirdstheWord Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 09:47 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Maryland - 36,023
Northwestern - 35,697

Suck it, B1G.

I hope you were joking.

1. Your school will be in the Big Ten very soon.

2. Northwestern's numbers are closer to capacity.

3. Northwestern starts school after the football season starts.

4. Northwestern went 10-3 and won a bowl game, Maryland went 4-7.

Yes I was joking. Our attendance is embarrassing.

Haha, good. Hopefully the move will boost the numbers by a few thousand and help with recruiting.

(05-04-2013 10:40 PM)BirdstheWord Wrote:  Does anyone have the numbers for the FCS by program and conference?

(05-04-2013 10:13 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:15 AM)BirdstheWord Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 09:47 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Maryland - 36,023
Northwestern - 35,697

Suck it, B1G.

I hope you were joking.

1. Your school will be in the Big Ten very soon.

2. Northwestern's numbers are closer to capacity.

3. Northwestern starts school after the football season starts.

4. Northwestern went 10-3 and won a bowl game, Maryland went 4-7.

Yes I was joking. Our attendance is embarrassing.

Haha, good. Hopefully the move will boost the numbers by a few thousand and help with recruiting.

I am sure it will. The Terps did what's best for the Terps..Can't fault them for that.

(05-04-2013 08:59 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:29 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 11:58 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 11:37 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  But the best teams in the ACC can beat the SEC's best. There were times when FSU beat Florida. FSU won 2 years ago and won 2 of the last 3. Miami can beat Florida. Clemson has lost 4 in a row to SC but before that Clemson won 10 out of 12. Clemson can beat SC. GT is struggling against UGA right now, but GT is not one of the ACC's best.

There were times. That says a lot right there. This ain't one of them times...

FSU beat Florida two years ago (Fla won last year). Clemson beat LSU 4 months ago. How more recent do you want it?

Neither Florida nor LSU has won the SEC for some time...

BTW, Tavon Austin just scored on Clemson again...

Ryan Nassib, Prince Tyson Gulley, Jerome Smith, Alec Lemon and Marcus Sales have all just scored on WV again.



I couldnt help myself Bit.

Hell, everybody scored on WVU's defense last year. The only games we won were the ones in which we outscored the opposition. It happens when a defense gets DeForested...

After GRob, I'm sure you can understand that...

(05-05-2013 09:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 08:59 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 01:29 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 11:58 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  There were times. That says a lot right there. This ain't one of them times...

FSU beat Florida two years ago (Fla won last year). Clemson beat LSU 4 months ago. How more recent do you want it?

Neither Florida nor LSU has won the SEC for some time...

BTW, Tavon Austin just scored on Clemson again...

Ryan Nassib, Prince Tyson Gulley, Jerome Smith, Alec Lemon and Marcus Sales have all just scored on WV again.



I couldnt help myself Bit.

Hell, everybody scored on WVU's defense last year. The only games we won were the ones in which we outscored the opposition. It happens when a defense gets DeForested...

After GRob, I'm sure you can understand that...

(05-03-2013 08:08 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Everyone keeps saying how moving to the BIG will help Maryland and Rutgers attendance. I wonder about that. Maryland and Rutgers will have to play OSU, Mich, Mich St, Penn St every year along with each other at a minimum. That's pretty much 5 losses for someone right there. Unless they get paired with Purdue or Illinois on the other side I can't see how they'll ever be bowl eligible. And if they really suck will the fans stop showing up. Just a thought......

MSU & PSU are beatable. MSU has lost to Central Michigan and PSU lost to Ohio last year and plays Kent this year which will be a tough battle for them

(05-06-2013 12:01 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 08:08 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Everyone keeps saying how moving to the BIG will help Maryland and Rutgers attendance. I wonder about that. Maryland and Rutgers will have to play OSU, Mich, Mich St, Penn St every year along with each other at a minimum. That's pretty much 5 losses for someone right there. Unless they get paired with Purdue or Illinois on the other side I can't see how they'll ever be bowl eligible. And if they really suck will the fans stop showing up. Just a thought......

MSU & PSU are beatable. MSU has lost to Central Michigan and PSU lost to Ohio last year and plays Kent this year which will be a tough battle for them

I am glad you think so but we (as in Kent) have a new coach and a lot of history of suck to give me a good feeling about being able to beat them. Then again I would love to do it and I love having the opportunity.