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RE: Official SEC Network Annoucement 2 May 2013...
(05-02-2013 09:27 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Are people still doubting Swofford? Really?

It's kind of like how POTUS gets all the credit or all the blame when really most of the work and thought is done by everyone else that surrounds him.

Swofford can still be a dolt but it appears he has some very good people surrounding him.
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(05-02-2013 09:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:27 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Are people still doubting Swofford? Really?

It's kind of like how POTUS gets all the credit or all the blame when really most of the work and thought is done by everyone else that surrounds him.

Swofford can still be a dolt but it appears he has some very good people surrounding him.

1. You have to understand from a Louisville, Syracuse & Pitt Point of View...Swofford may be a "Dolt" but @ least he is not Trained Goose-(Mr. Blindsided) or Meatball...really, seriously...our former league Commish would just leave you speehless.

2. On a Network, myself I am glad the SEC is out....it provides a guideline for what the success & failures of the BTN, look @ how ESPN has constructed the coming SEC Network but remember we are not the SEC...for myself the ACC should focus on it strongest card...it Men's Basketball much like ESPN did with ESPN2 when it first launched over 20 years ago to help with distribution.
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RE: Official SEC Network Annoucement 2 May 2013...
(05-02-2013 09:30 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:19 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:12 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 06:42 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 06:15 PM)moo Wrote:  Has an ACC network been announced?

No....but since the GoR was announced last week that been the general feeling and in interviews John Swofford has not backed down from that idea.

Of course he hasn't backed down from it. He should be working day and night to try and make it happen. That does not mean it will absolutely happen though as many of you ACC guys want to try and sell as absolute truth around here.

No...more like speculation and what Hokie has stated above...let me put it this way....something happened that caused the ACC Presidents to agree to the GoR....now a firm has been hired...Swofford has stated it is on the plate...we will see what happens...

Exactly, it may or may not happen. If it happens, it may or not be on cable. It may just be a digital package that can be paid for online access. There are so many possibilities right now that anyone trying to say it is a done deal is just being ignorant.

Atleast some of you guys are keeping level heads about it.

It's not that I am wishing ill for you guys. I could definitely see how an ACC Network could get landed on cable for basketball. In some of the footprint states I could see how ACC football would be desired but overall the ACC footprint area is not an area where large numbers of people are gung ho for college sports overall. Top that off with the fact that there is no where the ACC Network could go that wouldn't be in competition with the BTN or with the newly launched SECN.

That is a tough hill to climb for the folks trying to make it happen. IF they make it happen then they will have my utmost respect because that will have been a job well done indeed.

Except that the ACC already has an online network. Why would it make sense to hype a redundant online network?
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RE: Official SEC Network Annoucement 2 May 2013...
(05-02-2013 09:47 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:27 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Are people still doubting Swofford? Really?

It's kind of like how POTUS gets all the credit or all the blame when really most of the work and thought is done by everyone else that surrounds him.

Swofford can still be a dolt but it appears he has some very good people surrounding him.

1. You have to understand from a Louisville, Syracuse & Pitt Point of View...Swofford may be a "Dolt" but @ least he is not Trained Goose-(Mr. Blindsided) or Meatball...really, seriously...our former league Commish would just leave you speehless.

2. On a Network, myself I am glad the SEC is out....it provides a guideline for what the success & failures of the BTN, look @ how ESPN has constructed the coming SEC Network but remember we are not the SEC...for myself the ACC should focus on it strongest card...it Men's Basketball much like ESPN did with ESPN2 when it first launched over 20 years ago to help with distribution.

Well, just for the record, I am not saying the man is a dolt. In fact I highly doubt he would be where he is if he was.

The most important skill a good leader can have is the ability to surround him or herself with quality people that are good at what they do because one person alone, no matter whom they may be, can't do anything worthy of note.
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RE: Official SEC Network Annoucement 2 May 2013...
(05-02-2013 10:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:47 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 09:27 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Are people still doubting Swofford? Really?

It's kind of like how POTUS gets all the credit or all the blame when really most of the work and thought is done by everyone else that surrounds him.

Swofford can still be a dolt but it appears he has some very good people surrounding him.

1. You have to understand from a Louisville, Syracuse & Pitt Point of View...Swofford may be a "Dolt" but @ least he is not Trained Goose-(Mr. Blindsided) or Meatball...really, seriously...our former league Commish would just leave you speehless.

2. On a Network, myself I am glad the SEC is out....it provides a guideline for what the success & failures of the BTN, look @ how ESPN has constructed the coming SEC Network but remember we are not the SEC...for myself the ACC should focus on it strongest card...it Men's Basketball much like ESPN did with ESPN2 when it first launched over 20 years ago to help with distribution.

Well, just for the record, I am not saying the man is a dolt. In fact I highly doubt he would be where he is if he was.

The most important skill a good leader can have is the ability to surround him or herself with quality people that are good at what they do because one person alone, no matter whom they may be, can do anything worthy of note.

Case in point:

http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/inde...er_default


Quote:He spits out the word "sports" with mild exasperation, sounding less like a distinguished university president and more like a kindergartner who just saw the lima beans piled on his dinner plate.

Rutgers University President Robert Barchi is clear on this: He’d rather be doing something else. He probably should be doing something else, too, given the serious deadlines looming on his most important task.

Barchi is leading the massive merger between Rutgers and UMDNJ, a process that he said will require more than 4,600 decisions. Each one of them must have seemed more appealing than rehashing the scandal that rocked his basketball program last month.

Still, he took the job leading a university with big-time athletics and, right or wrong, nothing brings more attention and scrutiny to a school than sports. That he needed the Mike Rice fiasco to figure that out is remarkable, given his job title and experience.

"It was a revelation," Barchi said, "that the intensity of the response, both within the community, within the state and nationally on this very important and very serious issue could totally swamp out all of the other issues we’re trying to deal with and color everything else we’re doing."
So he must have missed what happened last fall at Penn State, or North Carolina, or Miami, or Southern Cal, or the countless other colleges digging out from athletic scandals.

Now Rutgers is on the list, and Barchi is the man holding the shovel. Can a neuroscientist brought to New Jersey with one clear purpose — completing that important merger — repair the fractured athletic department and position Rutgers to be competitive in the Big Ten?








Video: Barchi says Mike Rice scandal has been a revelationRutgers University President Robert Barchi spoke about the resignation of AD Tim Pernetti and the firing of Mike RIce. Barchi said the scandal was a revelation for him and something the university is ready to move on from. Barchi spoke during an editorial board meeting at The Star-Ledger. (Video by Adya Beasley/The Star-Ledger)
The short answer: He better hire a really good athletic director.

Barchi spent 20 minutes at the end of a Star-Ledger editorial board meeting Thursday addressing athletics. He made it clear that integrity will matter more than winning while he is in charge, that Rutgers would not try to keep up with the big boys in spending, and that the future will not include key leaders from the past.

That means Tim Pernetti. Barchi was dismissive of the movement to reinstate the former athletic director, who was forced to resign in the wake of the basketball scandal. The efforts to save his job — including a rally at the spring game last weekend — will not sway him.

"First, let’s put this in perspective. By our count, there were 100, maybe 150 people with (Pernetti) shirts on," he said when asked about the rally. "There were 83,000 people at Rutgers for Rutgers Day. The point is, if you went around to the 83,000 people, you would not have seen many shirts like that.

"So let’s keep in perspective the size of the group we’re talking about. The more important question is where the university is. Tim resigned. We accepted that resignation. And the university is moving on."

And, if that costs the athletic department much needed capital from private donors, he said, "I don’t make my decisions based on philanthropy, and the university doesn’t either."

But the bottom line matters. Barchi said the athletic department would be revenue neutral in six years — which, given the $18 million annual subsidy, is essentially a $110 million promise. That factors in a budget that is certain to increase when Rutgers joins the Big Ten next year.

It does not, however, mean Rutgers has plans to join the arms race with its Big Ten foes. Michigan spends $129 million annually on athletics. Ohio State has guaranteed $4 million a year to football coach Urban Meyer. Rutgers will not try to keep up with its new neighbors.

"We’re not going to be spending what Ohio State spends. We’re not going to be spending what Michigan spends," he said. "But I think we can be competitive in the Big Ten with the business plan we’ve put together."

Listening to Barchi, it is hard not to envision him as a young man, toiling in a lab and wondering why a university would spend so much money on athletics. Asked directly if he believed in the benefit of big-time athletics, he made it clear that Rutgers went down that path long before he became president.

"I came to an institution that already had made a decision about D-1 athletics," he said. "My commitment to the institution is to take that and make sure we have a high-integrity program that focuses as much on academics as it does athletics."

Now, Rutgers has an athletic department lacking leadership and direction as it faces a huge transition. And you get the impression that the man in charge would rather be dealing with anything else.
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(05-02-2013 01:27 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:17 PM)stever20 Wrote:  think one thing interesting:
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– CBS will no longer own the “exclusive window” for Saturday mid-afternoon SEC games as the network will televise games in three time slots: early afternoon (noon-ish), mid-afternoon (3:30) and evening (seven-ish). CBS, though, will maintain the first choice of games involving SEC schools.

I would bet enough to make me nervous that there is a wink and a nod agreement to show a low quality game on SEC network during the CBS afternoon window. That will be a good place to dump the low ranked SEC vs. Sun Belt game. It is not in either CBS or ESPN's interests to split the viewership between two good games. ESPN needs to own the noon and night games, and they will put their best games there to keep Fox at bay.


I just hope this means less nooners. As a fan who likes to go to the games, I cannot stand a noon game. Hopefully the SECN game will be the only one at that time slot.
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(05-02-2013 01:29 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:12 PM)stever20 Wrote:  love how the ACC fanboys are comparing the Pac 12 struggles with the SEC. SEC BLOWS the doors off of Pac 12 quite frankly. I mean even getting only the 3rd or 4th best game would still be a top 25 game most weeks in the SEC- in an area that loves football.

And if you really think the SEC would struggle to get carried, what in the hell makes you think the ACC would get carried when they can't even remotely compete with the SEC for fan interest.

An ACC/SEC alliance would create a huge amount of inventory for the most populated/growing states in the country to watch. This is not a threat to the ACC. In fact, it just highlights the reason why no ACC teams (besides MD) left for the B1G. When all is said and done, I would imagine that Loh will not be looked upon as a MD savior.


SEC teams play the best ACC schools as it is anyway. FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville are already part of annual series, so why would the SEC gives games to the Dukes and Syracuses of the world?
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(05-02-2013 10:42 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:29 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:12 PM)stever20 Wrote:  love how the ACC fanboys are comparing the Pac 12 struggles with the SEC. SEC BLOWS the doors off of Pac 12 quite frankly. I mean even getting only the 3rd or 4th best game would still be a top 25 game most weeks in the SEC- in an area that loves football.

And if you really think the SEC would struggle to get carried, what in the hell makes you think the ACC would get carried when they can't even remotely compete with the SEC for fan interest.

An ACC/SEC alliance would create a huge amount of inventory for the most populated/growing states in the country to watch. This is not a threat to the ACC. In fact, it just highlights the reason why no ACC teams (besides MD) left for the B1G. When all is said and done, I would imagine that Loh will not be looked upon as a MD savior.


SEC teams play the best ACC schools as it is anyway. FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville are already part of annual series, so why would the SEC gives games to the Dukes and Syracuses of the world?

A Network is more than just football. One more year of a Big 12 challenge doesn't affect a SECN or ACCN.
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(05-02-2013 02:57 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  As far as Maryland- going into a conference where they will get likely 25m per year from just network TV and then 10 mil more for the B10 network- or 75% more than the ACC is getting- yeah, that won't hurt at all.

How do you figure Maryland is going to get 75% more than the ACC teams?

Because the ACCN is likely to be far less valuable than the BTN?
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(05-03-2013 06:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 02:57 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  As far as Maryland- going into a conference where they will get likely 25m per year from just network TV and then 10 mil more for the B10 network- or 75% more than the ACC is getting- yeah, that won't hurt at all.

How do you figure Maryland is going to get 75% more than the ACC teams?

Because the ACCN is likely to be far less valuable than the BTN?
Again, How do you figure Maryland is going to get 75% more than the ACC teams?
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(05-02-2013 10:42 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:29 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:12 PM)stever20 Wrote:  love how the ACC fanboys are comparing the Pac 12 struggles with the SEC. SEC BLOWS the doors off of Pac 12 quite frankly. I mean even getting only the 3rd or 4th best game would still be a top 25 game most weeks in the SEC- in an area that loves football.

And if you really think the SEC would struggle to get carried, what in the hell makes you think the ACC would get carried when they can't even remotely compete with the SEC for fan interest.

An ACC/SEC alliance would create a huge amount of inventory for the most populated/growing states in the country to watch. This is not a threat to the ACC. In fact, it just highlights the reason why no ACC teams (besides MD) left for the B1G. When all is said and done, I would imagine that Loh will not be looked upon as a MD savior.


SEC teams play the best ACC schools as it is anyway. FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville are already part of annual series, so why would the SEC gives games to the Dukes and Syracuses of the world?

And why would the SEC give up those NE Louisiana and FAU games?
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(05-03-2013 07:30 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 10:42 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:29 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-02-2013 01:12 PM)stever20 Wrote:  love how the ACC fanboys are comparing the Pac 12 struggles with the SEC. SEC BLOWS the doors off of Pac 12 quite frankly. I mean even getting only the 3rd or 4th best game would still be a top 25 game most weeks in the SEC- in an area that loves football.

And if you really think the SEC would struggle to get carried, what in the hell makes you think the ACC would get carried when they can't even remotely compete with the SEC for fan interest.

An ACC/SEC alliance would create a huge amount of inventory for the most populated/growing states in the country to watch. This is not a threat to the ACC. In fact, it just highlights the reason why no ACC teams (besides MD) left for the B1G. When all is said and done, I would imagine that Loh will not be looked upon as a MD savior.


SEC teams play the best ACC schools as it is anyway. FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville are already part of annual series, so why would the SEC gives games to the Dukes and Syracuses of the world?

And why would the SEC give up those NE Louisiana and FAU games?

Probably for the same reason Pitt doesn't.

Almost all the East schools play ACC rivals, almost all the west schools play a Big 12 or national opponent OOC annually.
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RE: Official SEC Network Annoucement 2 May 2013...
Did the SEC sign a Grant of rights for this network? I hadn't seen that, if they had. That also might explain why the SEC owns 0% of it.
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