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Want to take care of pay for play?
Let the players play in the minors during the off season..

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2013/3/20/41234...y-for-play

The NCAA should allow scholarship players to get paid off season to trade their craft and here is how it could work.

Example Baseball:

Let NCAA players sign a one year deal with minor league team to play between the end of the college season and the beginning of the next. If the Batavia Muckdogs want to pay Matt Pollock for a few months of work why should it concern the University? There is the risk of injury but these players are all adults, albeit young ones, who should be allowed to make such decisions.

The win for the Muckdogs is access!

Batavia would be the chance to get the use of out Athletes who's training expenses are largely picked up by UB. For nine months of the year Pollock trains using UB weights, coaches, and facilities.

The win for Pollock is a chance to earn money plying his art.

I used my training in engineering to earn money while still working on my degree. There is no reasonable reason these players should not be able to do the same. It would also give student athletes the chance to develop some career networks for future employment in any facet of the sporting industry.

The win for the School

Pollock would have a chance to up his game by playing with professionals during the off season. More than that it provides a way to handle the pay for play issues without hitting the budgets of Athletics departments.

It also nicely puts the issue to title IX to rest. There would be no stress on the Universities to worry about what paying your football players means for you're field hockey team. The current debate is clouded by Title IX because the specifics of it's implementation an entirely political process, not a legislative one. The players who "earn money" for the school are usually boys so usually the focus has been just paying your football and basketball players.
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
Well it won't work for football because kids just aren't going to hold up to fall drills, 12 to 15 games, spring drills, then play 8 to 10 games in the summer.

The other problem is Louisville, Lexington, Chapel Hill, Durham, Lawrence, Ann Arbor, Bloomington and others will have AWESOME minor league summer basketball teams with high pay. Los Angeles, Miami, Austin, Phoenix/Tempe, Baton Rouge will have great independent minor league baseball teams with really good salaries.
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Well it won't work for football because kids just aren't going to hold up to fall drills, 12 to 15 games, spring drills, then play 8 to 10 games in the summer.

Why not?

Quote:The other problem is Louisville, Lexington, Chapel Hill, Durham, Lawrence, Ann Arbor, Bloomington and others will have AWESOME minor league summer basketball teams with high pay. Los Angeles, Miami, Austin, Phoenix/Tempe, Baton Rouge will have great independent minor league baseball teams with really good salaries.

So? Keep in mind a lot of these kids are not from the area in which they go to school and many might spend the summer away from home working for a chance to play semi-pro or minor league ball..
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.

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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Well it won't work for football because kids just aren't going to hold up to fall drills, 12 to 15 games, spring drills, then play 8 to 10 games in the summer.

The other problem is Louisville, Lexington, Chapel Hill, Durham, Lawrence, Ann Arbor, Bloomington and others will have AWESOME minor league summer basketball teams with high pay. Los Angeles, Miami, Austin, Phoenix/Tempe, Baton Rouge will have great independent minor league baseball teams with really good salaries.

Yeah, if you had one team comprised of Louisville/Lexington and another of Chapel Hill/Durham...those two minor league teams would probably give some NBA bottom feeders a run for their money and be paid as such. 03-lmfao
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 03:42 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.

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Neil

Might have fewer academic casualties. 03-shhhh
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 03:42 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.

Cheers,
Neil

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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Well it won't work for football because kids just aren't going to hold up to fall drills, 12 to 15 games, spring drills, then play 8 to 10 games in the summer.

The other problem is Louisville, Lexington, Chapel Hill, Durham, Lawrence, Ann Arbor, Bloomington and others will have AWESOME minor league summer basketball teams with high pay. Los Angeles, Miami, Austin, Phoenix/Tempe, Baton Rouge will have great independent minor league baseball teams with really good salaries.

Gee, what could go wrong with that?

Worldwide Wes will sponsor a summer basketball team in Lexington, for which each summering Kentucky player will be paid $10,000 per game. Bill Self, Tom Crean, Coach K, et al. will have to find boosters to match that rate of compensation for their own summer league players. Or maybe Worldwide Wes and Phil Knight will keep upping the summer-league pay in Lexington and Eugene respectively until one of them says uncle.
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
Just let them have sponsers or let boosters put donations into a single pot and split it among all players.
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
I am all for pay for play. Scholarships are only for 1st semester of freshman year. From that point on the athletes get payed after passing classes. Pay them enough to cover classes, books room and board with $400 a month in spending money. It more then most students get and it is there responsibility to manage the money. If they fail or drop out, it becomes a loan that must be re-paid. If they run out of money, better call mom or take a loan the way everyone else has too. That would be truely fair. I bet within 5 years they would be crying to go back to the scholarship program. In no way should it be the scholarship program plus pay.
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(04-30-2013 03:42 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.

Cheers,
Neil

Would you pay your women athletes the same way?
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(05-01-2013 08:03 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(04-30-2013 03:42 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.

Cheers,
Neil

Would you pay your women athletes the same way?

Odd question considering I used the term student-athlete which is by definition gender neutral.

Cheers,
Neil
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RE: Want to take care of pay for play?
(05-01-2013 11:33 AM)omniorange Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 08:03 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(04-30-2013 03:42 PM)omniorange Wrote:  I say we give the stipend upon successful completion of a semester.

So the first payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Fall semester. The next payout comes in after making good academic progress in the Spring semester and so on.

This way, the student-athletes only have to manage to get by their first fall semester without the stipend and every semester thereafter is tied to them making satisfactory academic progress.
Would you pay your women athletes the same way?
Odd question considering I used the term student-athlete which is by definition gender neutral.
I guess the female athletes at UConn aren't students...
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