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RE: The Benghazi situation could get very interesting
and again........... The media didn't cover the story in any way, shape or form as they would have had a republican been in the White House is an opinion. Opinions and feelings aren't facts RWR. It's right there in your sig.
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RE: The Benghazi situation could get very interesting
(04-30-2013 03:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and again........... The media didn't cover the story in any way, shape or form as they would have had a republican been in the White House is an opinion. Opinions and feelings aren't facts RWR. It's right there in your sig.

True, but some opinions are much more realistic than others. And that one is pretty likely to be the case. Obama has had the fawning, slobbering media carrying his water for him since he first appeared on the national stage.

I find it incredible that anyone, even the most ardent Obama supporter, can look at the situation and not conclude that the media is way, way over on Obama's side. I just don't see how the facts can be processed objectively and lead to a conclusion that the media is playing this anywhere close to down the middle.
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RE: The Benghazi situation could get very interesting
(04-30-2013 03:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and again........... The media didn't cover the story in any way, shape or form as they would have had a republican been in the White House is an opinion. Opinions and feelings aren't facts RWR. It's right there in your sig.

No, they aren't. That's why I pointed that fact out to you when you were asked to provide facts to back up your opinion, and posted other's opinions instead of facts.

Now it could be you're just too stupid to realize the difference. Or it could be you're willful pathological liar. My guess is that my owning you over the years has finally broken what fragile mental stability you had and you've just gone total batsh!t crazy. Could be any one of those things.

In any case, I'm putting you on ignore. You're crapping up threads with your vendetta against me and I'm sure it's annoying to other posters. If you'd like me to b!tch slap you at any point in the future head over to the verbal assault board and post. I'm always up for some light work.

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Keep it up Mach...I quite enjoy it. Although I sorta feel sorry for Robert 03-lol

But what Niner and his ilk just can't comprehend is that the media did cover Benghazi. And that they came to the same rational conclusion that the majority of America did, that we were attacked by the usual nut jobs who don't like us. And that there was nothing we really could have done to prevent it other than pouring millions and millions and sending more Americans overseas or closing all foreign embassies and consulates altogether. They covered that Crowley and Obama were correct in that he did call it an act of terror the next day. They investigated and reported that there was no military option available as the attacks unfolded. They covered that they had asked the state department, as nearly all foreign embassies and consulates do, for money funds and protection. They covered all the partisan Congressional hearings.

All you have to do is go back and read the "liberal" NY Times. They had story after story after story on the matter.

So sorry guys, but you are on the fringe of this and always will be. We've moved on and you should too. It's a loser for you politically.

But they won't, because they have no sound ideas and no rational solutions. It's easier to blame the bogeyman media. It's really quite sad...especially for decent posters like Owl.
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Benghazi has come and gone, it's probably a loser issue at this point. It should have gotten a lot more traction than stupid stuff like the birther crap, because there are real issues there. But the birther got legs because it could be used to mock the opposition.

And I'm sorry, but the media is nowhere remotely close to objective. You don't see it because you are hard left on every issue, and so they are always catering to you. I have some conservative views and some liberal, so I see them both ways. And they aren't anywhere close to objective on the issues where I disagree with them, and they aren't anywhere close to objective on issues where I agree with them. We simply do not have objective media.

I'm not sure anyone is culpable. I don't think it's reasonable to expect the media to be objective. They're human beings and they bring their prejudices to work, just like the rest of us do. So trying to pretend that the media are objective is denying human nature.

About all you can do to be informed is try to get as many different viewpoints as possible, and work out what makes the most sense once you have seen and heard all views. Fox is useful because it is the one voice to the right of center when everyone else is pretty much hard left. And I proabably prefer BBC World Service and the Economist more than any other sources, because they are biased too, but it's a different bias from what's at work in the US media. Plus I'm far more interested in learning about elections in Kenya than Casey Anthony's trial, and you get the latter instead of the former from US media.
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Our government refuses additional personnel to defend our Ambassador and he and others are killed and
some want to just sweep it under the rug as - oh, well....nothing we could have done.
Baloney. We deserve better people running our government than that.
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If Obama meant Benghazi when he said "acts of terror" why did he refuse to call it terrorism when directly asked on 60 Minutes and The View in the days AFTER the Rose Garden speech? Because he wasn't talking about Benghazi.

The media swept this under the rug like so many of Obama's other lies. But the left in their blind devotion to their messiah Obama will always ignore it.
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2 days of his own medicine. I thought he would last at least 5. I knew he couldn't make it a month. Que Sera Sera.
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As I have pointed out before, calling it an "act of terror" is NOT the same as calling it terrorism.
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(04-30-2013 05:04 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  As I have pointed out before, calling it an "act of terror" is NOT the same as calling it terrorism.

And he didn't call it an act of terror. He referred to acts of terror, nothing about Benghazi specifically as that didn't fit the Bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda is on the run narrative.

After all he had a fundraiser to get to that evening. Why bother with an attack on a US Embassy?
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And it's sad to me that decent posters like RedTom and Mach usually are just don't see what's happening. I really don't see how any objective observer could miss it.
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(04-30-2013 04:23 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Our government refuses additional personnel to defend our Ambassador and he and others are killed and
some want to just sweep it under the rug as - oh, well....nothing we could have done.
Baloney. We deserve better people running our government than that.

Not just that. The military rank and file is not happy with the Benghazi situation. They feel betrayed. They have operated with a "leave no man behind" creed for decades. They can no longer trust the leadership in this administration as those in Benghazi were hung out to dry - for political reasons, to boot.
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(04-30-2013 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  And it's sad to me that decent posters like RedTom and Mach usually are just don't see what's happening. I really don't see how any objective observer could miss it.

Owl, did you found that objective observer next to the Holy Grail or the Ark of The Covenant...or was it beside Noah's Ark?
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(05-01-2013 09:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-30-2013 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  And it's sad to me that decent posters like RedTom and Mach usually are just don't see what's happening. I really don't see how any objective observer could miss it.

Owl, did you found that objective observer next to the Holy Grail or the Ark of The Covenant...or was it beside Noah's Ark?

Hard to tell whether you're being a bigger jerk than idiot, or a bigger idiot than jerk with that comment.
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We saw this after the Cole was attacked in October 2000. Ignore the incident and let the Media carry the water.
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(05-01-2013 05:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 09:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-30-2013 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  And it's sad to me that decent posters like RedTom and Mach usually are just don't see what's happening. I really don't see how any objective observer could miss it.

Owl, did you found that objective observer next to the Holy Grail or the Ark of The Covenant...or was it beside Noah's Ark?

Hard to tell whether you're being a bigger jerk than idiot, or a bigger idiot than jerk with that comment.

C'mon Owl...are you really wound that tight? 03-lol I was clearly trying to make a joke that it's really really hard to find somebody objective when it comes to politics and the media. Everyone will always have their own agenda deep down that can't help but creep out at least a little.
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http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?...feed_id=33

It keeps unraveling for Dear Leader.

Quote:(CBS News) "Everybody in the mission" in Benghazi, Libya, thought the attack on a U.S. consulate there last Sept. 11 was an act of terror "from the get-go," according to excerpts of an interview investigators conducted with the No. 2 official in Libya at the time, obtained exclusively by CBS News' "Face the Nation."
"I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning," Greg Hicks, a 22-year foreign service diplomat who was the highest-ranking U.S. official in Libya after the strike, told investigators under authority of the House Oversight
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(05-05-2013 01:04 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  It keeps unraveling for Dear Leader.

this will never reach Obama or Clinton. The media will refuse to cover it or call it a GOP witch hunt if they do. At best, a few state dept employees will move from one office to another and that will be it.
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A 22 year old left as the highest ranking U.S. official in Libya, and it gets swept under the rug for political power and expediency. Great, just great.
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