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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 12:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  My preference would be for ND to never play a Big Ten school again in any sport.

This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 10:51 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Barry Alvarez said that, but it was also reported that some of the lower-tier Big Ten schools have said there's NFW they're giving up the FCS games.
But reporting is awfully sloppy on the question ~ after all, not contracting any more doesn't mean that existing contracts are not going to be honored, so, for instance, Iowa has two games contracted with Northern Iowa, so of course they are going to honor those contracts. And its real easy to use the fact that the existing contracts are going to be honored to duck the question of whether new contracts will be drawn up.

(05-01-2013 12:36 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  I disagree that the ND needs schools like Purdue on the schedule. Their home games allow them all the presence in the Midwest that they need. Their away games can focus on maintaining their national presence and key recruiting states like Florida, Texas and California.
They are going to play in California every year, and with Florida State and Miami covered by the ACC scheduling agreement are going to be in Florida on a regular basis, as well as elsewhere on the east coast. They surely don't need to drop Purdue to be able to play in Texas and the desert southwest.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 05:56 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 12:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  My preference would be for ND to never play a Big Ten school again in any sport.

This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

"They play like it's the Super Bowl, its a no-win situation" 03-weeping03-hissyfit 05-stirthepot



I call it payback. You call it "elitist". Call it what you will.

The Big Ten was trying for years to force ND to join a conference it did not want.

The Big Ten, in my view, was trying to raid the ACC in part to destabilize it enough to force ND to join, eventually.

I personally view that as being similar to an act of war (or at least a hostile takeover). Dropping all Big Ten schools would be a sort of counteroffensive.

The Big Ten, with its past actions from the 1920's on and with its recent attempts to "checkmate" ND, is the enemy in my book. It always has been.

Tell your descendants whatever you wish. I don't really care.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 06:04 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 10:51 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Barry Alvarez said that, but it was also reported that some of the lower-tier Big Ten schools have said there's NFW they're giving up the FCS games.
But reporting is awfully sloppy on the question ~ after all, not contracting any more doesn't mean that existing contracts are not going to be honored, so, for instance, Iowa has two games contracted with Northern Iowa, so of course they are going to honor those contracts. And its real easy to use the fact that the existing contracts are going to be honored to duck the question of whether new contracts will be drawn up.

(05-01-2013 12:36 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  I disagree that the ND needs schools like Purdue on the schedule. Their home games allow them all the presence in the Midwest that they need. Their away games can focus on maintaining their national presence and key recruiting states like Florida, Texas and California.
They are going to play in California every year, and with Florida State and Miami covered by the ACC scheduling agreement are going to be in Florida on a regular basis, as well as elsewhere on the east coast. They surely don't need to drop Purdue to be able to play in Texas and the desert southwest.


What purpose does playing Purdue serve?

Recruiting? No.

Exposure? No.

Great relationship between two fan bases who respect each other?

Hell, no. Far from it, in fact.

Schedule someone else and leave the Boilers to their games with Indiana and Minnesota.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 06:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 05:56 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 12:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  My preference would be for ND to never play a Big Ten school again in any sport.

This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

"They play like it's the Super Bowl, its a no-win situation" 03-weeping03-hissyfit 05-stirthepot



I call it payback. You call it "elitist". Call it what you will.

The Big Ten was trying for years to force ND to join a conference it did not want.

The Big Ten, in my view, was trying to raid the ACC in part to destabilize it enough to force ND to join, eventually.

I personally view that as being similar to an act of war (or at least a hostile takeover). Dropping all Big Ten schools would be a sort of counteroffensive.

The Big Ten, with its past actions from the 1920's on and with its recent attempts to "checkmate" ND, is the enemy in my book.

Tell your descendants whatever you wish. I don't really care.

Imo, if the B1G wanted to "checkmate" ND they could have, and they still could, if they really want.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 06:32 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 05:56 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 12:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  My preference would be for ND to never play a Big Ten school again in any sport.

This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

"They play like it's the Super Bowl, its a no-win situation" 03-weeping03-hissyfit 05-stirthepot



I call it payback. You call it "elitist". Call it what you will.

The Big Ten was trying for years to force ND to join a conference it did not want.

The Big Ten, in my view, was trying to raid the ACC in part to destabilize it enough to force ND to join, eventually.

I personally view that as being similar to an act of war (or at least a hostile takeover). Dropping all Big Ten schools would be a sort of counteroffensive.

The Big Ten, with its past actions from the 1920's on and with its recent attempts to "checkmate" ND, is the enemy in my book.

Tell your descendants whatever you wish. I don't really care.

Imo, if the B1G wanted to "checkmate" ND they could have, and they still could, if they really want.


Go back and read all of the articles from 2010 about Jim Delany trying to checkmate ND. He was being hailed as the "smartest man in college football".

The Big Ten tried to do so in 2010 and tried again in 2012-13. It failed.

How can the Big Ten now checkmate ND?
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 06:35 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:32 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 05:56 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 12:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  My preference would be for ND to never play a Big Ten school again in any sport.

This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

"They play like it's the Super Bowl, its a no-win situation" 03-weeping03-hissyfit 05-stirthepot



I call it payback. You call it "elitist". Call it what you will.

The Big Ten was trying for years to force ND to join a conference it did not want.

The Big Ten, in my view, was trying to raid the ACC in part to destabilize it enough to force ND to join, eventually.

I personally view that as being similar to an act of war (or at least a hostile takeover). Dropping all Big Ten schools would be a sort of counteroffensive.

The Big Ten, with its past actions from the 1920's on and with its recent attempts to "checkmate" ND, is the enemy in my book.

Tell your descendants whatever you wish. I don't really care.

Imo, if the B1G wanted to "checkmate" ND they could have, and they still could, if they really want.


Go back and read all of the articles from 2010 about Jim Delany trying to checkmate ND. He was being hailed as the "smartest man in college football".

The Big Ten tried to do so in 2010 and tried again in 2012-13. It failed.

How can the Big Ten now checkmate ND?

Get a concensus that the power conferences should have 9 conference games. Already starting, iyam.

Resurrect the B1G - PAC scheduling alliance talks and give the PAC a deal they can not refuse. This probably would do it alone as USC and Stanford would have a hard time keeping ND on the schedule with 9 conference games and one B1G game. MSU thinks the same way and ND is left with one traditional rival- Navy.

Other conferences would likely follow the B1G and PAC's lead and enter similar alliances to generate more profits for their networks. There no longer would be room in the schedule for an independent ND.

Change the rules to give conference winners and runner-ups a bigger advantage in the playoff selection process.

Raid the ACC and Big 12 on the way to 24 teams.

And please do not tell me you believe in the G of R is a fortress hype.

Checkmate. And it would not take all of the above.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
(05-01-2013 07:03 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:35 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:32 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 06:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 05:56 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  This is the same elitism crap Domers have thrived on trashing Michigan about over the past 10 centuries. Can't wait to tell my great-great-grandkids about how Domers refused to play their neighbor (after putting a 3 point "whoopin'" on 'em in 2012).

"They play like it's the Super Bowl, its a no-win situation" 03-weeping03-hissyfit 05-stirthepot



I call it payback. You call it "elitist". Call it what you will.

The Big Ten was trying for years to force ND to join a conference it did not want.

The Big Ten, in my view, was trying to raid the ACC in part to destabilize it enough to force ND to join, eventually.

I personally view that as being similar to an act of war (or at least a hostile takeover). Dropping all Big Ten schools would be a sort of counteroffensive.

The Big Ten, with its past actions from the 1920's on and with its recent attempts to "checkmate" ND, is the enemy in my book.

Tell your descendants whatever you wish. I don't really care.

Imo, if the B1G wanted to "checkmate" ND they could have, and they still could, if they really want.


Go back and read all of the articles from 2010 about Jim Delany trying to checkmate ND. He was being hailed as the "smartest man in college football".

The Big Ten tried to do so in 2010 and tried again in 2012-13. It failed.

How can the Big Ten now checkmate ND?

Get a census that the power conferences should have 9 conference games. Already starting, iyam.

Resurrect the B1G - PAC scheduling alliance talks and give the PAC a deal they can not refuse. This probably would do it alone as USC and Stanford would have a hard time keeping ND on the schedule with 9 conference games and one B1G game. MSU thinks the same way and ND is left with one traditional rival- Navy.

Other conferences would likely follow the B1G and PAC's lead and enter similar alliances to generate more profits for their networks. There no longer would be room in the schedule for an independent ND.

Change the rules to give conference winners and runner-ups a bigger advantage in the playoff selection process.

Raid the ACC and Big 12 on the way to 24 teams.

And please do not tell me you believe in the G of R is a fortress hype.

Checkmate. And it would not take all of the above.


Well, good luck with all of that. Have at it. Most of that is a pipe dream.

Even if the Big Ten could succeed in all of that (extremely doubtful), watch ND join the Big 12 (partial) or the Big East/C7 instead.
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RE: Got my wish: Purdue/ND series is done, gone, no more
As much as I enjoy the Cats scheduling Stanford, Vandy, BC & Duke; I do miss the NU/ND games.

If that won't work; each program would save alot of travel expense for soccer & baseball by scheduling in the non conference portion of their season.
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