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RE: Exceptions to the rule when it comes to school naming
(05-03-2013 02:43 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  
(05-03-2013 09:33 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(05-03-2013 08:37 AM)Murray007 Wrote:  
(04-28-2013 01:24 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  This is a technicality, but Old Dominion University is named after Virginia (AKA: The Old Dominion), so there ya go.

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I honestly can't think of another college that uses a state nickname as the foundation of its name. Now, throw in mascots/team names and I can think of quite a few schools that use state nicknames (Buckeyes, Badgers, etc.).

Didn't ODU start out as a satellite campus of William & Mary? If so, this makes the W&M/EVMS merger a little more awkward.

ODU did start out as the Norfolk Division of the College of William and Mary. There was once a time when you get a Va Tech degree and a W&M degree all from the same place!

I wouldn't hold my breath on the W&M/EVMS merger. There's a lot of issues at stake but that's not say it couldn't happen. http://hamptonroads.com/2013/01/wm-mary-...rly-merger

Plus... I think ODU would benefit from the merger, at least more than William and Mary would.

I agree with you about the ODU/EVMS merger. The MCV merger did well for what is now VCU.
05-28-2013 08:10 AM
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RE: Exceptions to the rule when it comes to school naming
(05-01-2013 02:45 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(05-01-2013 09:18 AM)lew240z Wrote:  When I first heard of Rutgers many decades ago, I thought it was a private school.

I think it used to be before taken over by the State of New Jersey.

Yup. Both Rutgers (1766) and William & Mary (1693) are colonial-era colleges that were originally private but now are public.
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Rutgers was private until 1956. All of the pre-1956 land is technically not state property & is owned by the BOT.

By the way, it's full name is Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
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(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  When it comes to naming a university of college, it generally comes down to whether or not it is named for a region/state/city/geographic body (i.e. University of the Pacific) or if for a person, institution type (i.e. Tech, A&M, State, Methodist, etc...), or perhaps an idea or inanimate object such as the names for some religious schools.

In the case of something geographic, even if a school goes by something like OU, KU or CU for short, they generally follow the rule of being called "University of ________". The latter reference above, people for example, usually have the word university at the end.

Examples:

University of Kansas, a geographic place.

Our Lady of the Lake University, person/idea.

But not all go by that rule and even a couple large states stray from this typical pattern. Both Ohio and Indiana place the word "university" at the end. Here are some more:

Georgetown University
Hampton University
University of Notre Dame
University of Detroit Mercy
Villanova University

Some, like Southern Utah (with the -ern on the end) can go either way but South Alabama, for example and in standard form, should be (and is) the University of South Alabama.

Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?
University of South Florida...
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Since University of Pennsylvania is taken, naming state universities in PA needs to be creative.

Penn State University
Univeristy of Pittsburgh
California Univeristy of Pennsylvania
Indiana Univeristy of Pennsylvania

Don't know the reasons behind the latter two. Probably to confuse the employers who will hire graduates from the two.
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(05-29-2013 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?
University of South Florida...

Wake Forest University. Founded in the town of Wake Forest, North Carolina, but no longer located there.
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Actually, South Florida used to mean anything south of the Panhandle before droves of people moved that way. As recently as the 1940's, the majority of the state's population was north of Orlando.
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(05-29-2013 12:51 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Since University of Pennsylvania is taken, naming state universities in PA needs to be creative.

Penn State University
Univeristy of Pittsburgh
California Univeristy of Pennsylvania
Indiana Univeristy of Pennsylvania

Don't know the reasons behind the latter two. Probably to confuse the employers who will hire graduates from the two.

California, Pa.

Indiana, Pa.


Those are the towns in which those two schools are located.

(Good thing that they didn't found those schools in Mars, Pa. or Intercourse, Pa.)
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(05-29-2013 01:30 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-29-2013 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 10:37 PM)Caltex2 Wrote:  Then, there are some schools which aren't even located in the place they're representing like UMiami, Boston College and Dallas.

I know I'm missing some, so do you know of some?
University of South Florida...

Wake Forest University. Founded in the town of Wake Forest, North Carolina, but no longer located there.

Yep!
The R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company paid to move the entire University from Wake Forest (which is due east of Durham) to Winston-Salem, where they built a new campus in the 1950's.
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Don't forget Miami (OH)...
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The town of Wake Forest is named after the school. Not the other way around. The town's orginal named when it finally incorporated 50 years after the founding of the school was Wake Forest College. The town dropped the College part of their name in 1909.
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(04-29-2013 05:51 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(04-28-2013 01:29 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  I don't think we can say there's any rule as to universities named after cities. At least in Division I, by my count there are 18 "City Universities" vs. 17 "Universities of City":

CUs: Boston U., Boston C., Providence, Seattle, Towson, Clemson, Auburn, Jacksonville, Georgetown, Radford, High Point, Valparaiso, Niagara, Fairfield, Hampton, Elon, Troy, and Santa Clara.

U of Cs: Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, Richmond, Dayton, Denver, Miami, Hartford, Charleston, New Orleans, Houston, Akron, Toledo, Evansville, San Francisco, San Diego, and Portland.

I'm not counting any universities that are officially part of a state university system (e.g. Buffalo = SUNY Buffalo, Charlotte = UNC Charlotte), or any "City State" universities (e.g. Wichita State, Portland State).

Perhaps we can generalize that major cities tend to prefer U. of City while smaller towns tend to prefer Town U., though Boston and Evansville need to have a discussion on that point.

It is 18 /18. You missed Pitt, the University of Pittsburgh.

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University of Detroit-Mercy (formerly University of Detroit before the merger with Mercy College, so the naming "U of City" portion has not changed). After the absorbed the Mercy campus, they used to say Detroit-Mercy on everything (and added blue to the team uniforms). Now, most of their sports teams wear either "Detroit" - or "UDM" and even "UDM" is getting less common. Some teams are back to the traditional red/white (no blue) again. You rarely see "Detroit-Mercy" in print anymore. I assume the "-Mercy" will eventually be retired.
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(05-01-2013 08:31 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(04-28-2013 02:55 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  Private schools are usually "________ University"

Perhaps that's why Purdue University is often mistaken for a private school? Seriously, I go there now, and some of my classmates from Utah and Washington say that their friends back home thought they were attending some elite East Coast private school.

They thought Purdue was elite? 01-wingedeagle
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(05-29-2013 10:37 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The town of Wake Forest is named after the school. Not the other way around. The town's orginal named when it finally incorporated 50 years after the founding of the school was Wake Forest College. The town dropped the College part of their name in 1909.

That's similar to NotreDame (the town being named after the college/university) - which technically is located in NotreDame, IN - not South Bend. I believe the city of NotreDame is just the campus though.

Perhaps a NotreDamer could verify...
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