(04-23-2013 11:40 AM)Freshy Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:13 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:09 AM)GrandPointEagle Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 09:52 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  He's done an OK job of balancing the budget, if anyone cared about that, but other than that I perceive zero progress coming from Jeff or his department.

You do realize that right now that is our number 1 goal right? We are broke and we need to get out of this financial rut before any of these conferences even take a cursory look at us.

I don't understand how nobody seems to realize that there is no such freaking thing as a quick fix in this world. You have to take things one step at a time or else your gonna end up tripping over yourself. You want USM to be in a conference like Memphis and ECU and UCF are now. Well, here is the difference.

ECU and UCF-location, high enrollment, financially stable
Memphis-MARKET!
Tulane-MARKET!
UH-MARKET!

Hate to tell you this guys, until we get financially stable and begin to compete, we aren't going anywhere. Expanding our market size takes something, anybody wanna guess what that something is?

Winner, money.

And we aint got that right now. So instead of pushing the panic button cause we aren't in the Big East or whatever the hell conference is out there, how about we sit down and look at this thing objectively and realize that it is not gonna get fixed over night. It's gonna take a few steps and the guy in charge so far is taking those steps.

And do you really think other conferences give two craps about women's sports?

Balancing a $20 million budget is Jeff's "biggest goal" right now. Apparently it's yours, too. Maybe you'll get t-shirts printed for that. BUT IT'S NOT MY BIGGEST GOAL. Honestly, I don't care. I think it's a huge distraction and a manufactured problem.

It is a manufactured problem in that 100-odd other FBS schools out there balance their athletic department budgets with funds taken from academics, which is basically what the audit is accusing us of doing. The problem is that those schools aren't grouped together with a pair of SEC programs who don't have to balance their budgets with money from academics. So we have an athletic director adopting a reactionary solution to the problem in order to please his reactionary bosses on the IHL.

The bigger problem is one of revenue generation, which Hammond has not forcefully addressed yet. Give him credit for tackling the more immediate problem, but he still has work to do to address the looming issue of long-term revenues.

Given that Southern Miss is expected to be 69% female in ten years and give out three degrees to women for every one degree it gives to a man in about twenty years (both statistics are ahead of national trends), you can ignore women's athletics only at your own peril. That's all future alumni base right there.

JH is not ignoring the women's programs. Just the opposite he is now paying attention to and giving them the support that he could not a year ago because of the situation he was with the turmoil caused. Say what you want about the record of JLM, but with the folks who actually buy the tickets and support (or as andre would say, the people who write checks) that program, terminating her would have led to an uproar. I know from personal experience that he received numerous emails in support of her.
I've yet to encounter anyone who wanted her gone that has even attended a game during her time here.

The perception of what league your in is much worse in the women's sports than the men's sports. She finds them at 8th graders, builds relationships only to have the sec schools come in at the last minute and take them away. Recruiting here is very tough, esp when your facilities are way behind and your budget is basically wooden nickels.

RC Johnson was right, he told her it would be professional suicide to come home.

Softball is a different animal. It hasn't been the same since they got their own facility. The program was popular when it was located in the youth park in lamar co. The university put about 30 grand into the field they used and went off and left it. Lamar county offered to build a grandstand and a field house but RG wanted back on campus.

AS far as will Hammond be back. Bennett has several other important hires to make right now. JH will get a year at the least. He has handled everything set in front of him to date. He has hit 2 home runs with hires of DT and Monk. The jury isn't even out on Monk, I've seen enough.

(04-23-2013 07:38 PM)GatorEagle Wrote:  I hope so. I flew up to Memphis to see the USM baseball series (and for me & the Mrs. to visit my Mom & Grandma) this weekend and it was interesting to get the perspective of the Memphis fans about this being the last time we play them in any sport conference-wise. When it sunk in after I said it, they were very sad to say the least.

Most UM fans confided in me that they knew they were giving up a valued rival for all sports. I agreed, but wished them the best and said who knows what will happen.

I wish the Tigers well...gonna miss playing the college team from my hometown & will miss those reasons to travel to the Bluff City.

Yet Memphis and Tulane according to more than one of our head coaches have refused to schedule us ooc in any sport.

(04-23-2013 10:45 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  Just put worthless posters like Andre on your ignore list like I did. Life immediately gets better.

I have one poster on my ignore list and its Andre.

If you look hard enough, you can find error and fault in anything today. And situations get really dangerous when the lack of information plays into people's process of finding these things.

It's good to question things. It helps hold people accountable. But sometimes it's best if you sit your ass down, take a step back, and let the people do their job.

Everyone is not going to like every decision Jeff Hammond makes. And you will never know the inter workings or true reasons why they are made. I know this for sure, Jeff Hammond loves USM, will do whatever it takes to better USM, and would never make a decision to hurt USM.

Sometimes you just got to let go, stop questioning why, and just start having faith!! Oh and open up your wallet!! :-)

(04-23-2013 09:26 PM)MasMack Wrote:  If you look hard enough, you can find error and fault in anything today. And situations get really dangerous when the lack of information plays into people's process of finding these things.

It's good to question things. It helps hold people accountable. But sometimes it's best if you sit your ass down, take a step back, and let the people do their job.

Everyone is not going to like every decision Jeff Hammond makes. And you will never know the inter workings or true reasons why they are made. I know this for sure, Jeff Hammond loves USM, will do whatever it takes to better USM, and would never make a decision to hurt USM.

Sometimes you just got to let go, stop questioning why, and just start having faith!! Oh and open up your wallet!! :-)

My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it. Also if you haven't you need to keep your opinions to yourself.

(04-23-2013 11:53 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Why any Southern Miss fan would question Jeff Hammond's job security is beyond bizarre. The man was handed a mess and has done more than any other AD, short of a divine miracle, to stabilize your program. Add in the fact that his blood, sweat and tears are invested in the Golden Eagle football program.

You are lucky to have him. I respected him as a competitor when we were younger and faster, and even more so now as we are getting older.

Be thankful you didn't get a RC Johnson.

Because it's Andre and he's had a bug in his arse about General Hammond from day 1 from his "temporary" hiring. (It took all the way up to Tyndal's NIT run to even make Andre even "consider" Hammond was doing anything correctly.)

(But I will gripe a little about Hammond if he refuses to let Berry go if we don't turn this baseball season around, considering the talent we've got... )

Quote:My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it.

I just got my EC renewal in the mail last week and was getting ready to put in my small upgrade (was going to go up one level).. when my wife had an accident in my car... so it looks like my wallet's temporarily closed for a short period. :(

IMO, if Hammond's not given at least a year extension (and preferably 2 to 3), the IHL will be making a statement that they want to hold USM down in terms of athletics.

(04-23-2013 09:52 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I remember hearing that he only had a one-year contract. And oh what a long year it's been. Now that the door has closed another couple of inches on USM's chances of getting into a conference that's worthy of our history / ambition , I can't help but think Jeff's days are numbered. He's done an OK job of balancing the budget, if anyone cared about that, but other than that I perceive zero progress coming from Jeff or his department.

Does anyone know anything specific about his status? Has anyone heard anything about a contract extension, for example?

Jeff Hammond has done an amazing job as AD. He has worked to get our budget under control, he fired and got rid of Ellis Johnson, he hired a great basketball coach and looks to have hired a great football coach. You sir are no USM fan. You have zero clue what you are posting about.

(04-23-2013 11:53 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Why any Southern Miss fan would question Jeff Hammond's job security is beyond bizarre. The man was handed a mess and has done more than any other AD, short of a divine miracle, to stabilize your program. Add in the fact that his blood, sweat and tears are invested in the Golden Eagle football program.

You are lucky to have him. I respected him as a competitor when we were younger and faster, and even more so now as we are getting older.

Be thankful you didn't get a RC Johnson.

Because it's Andre and he's had a bug in his arse about General Hammond from day 1 from his "temporary" hiring. (It took all the way up to Tyndal's NIT run to even make Andre even "consider" Hammond was doing anything correctly.)

(But I will gripe a little about Hammond if he refuses to let Berry go if we don't turn this baseball season around, considering the talent we've got... )

Quote:My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it.

I just got my EC renewal in the mail last week and was getting ready to put in my small upgrade (was going to go up one level).. when my wife had an accident in my car... so it looks like my wallet's temporarily closed for a short period. :(

IMO, if Hammond's not given at least a year extension (and preferably 2 to 3), the IHL will be making a statement that they want to hold USM down in terms of athletics.

Did I dream this or did we not have a 10 game win streak and are in 1st place in the league?

(04-24-2013 01:44 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Why any Southern Miss fan would question Jeff Hammond's job security is beyond bizarre. The man was handed a mess and has done more than any other AD, short of a divine miracle, to stabilize your program. Add in the fact that his blood, sweat and tears are invested in the Golden Eagle football program.

You are lucky to have him. I respected him as a competitor when we were younger and faster, and even more so now as we are getting older.

Be thankful you didn't get a RC Johnson.

Because it's Andre and he's had a bug in his arse about General Hammond from day 1 from his "temporary" hiring. (It took all the way up to Tyndal's NIT run to even make Andre even "consider" Hammond was doing anything correctly.)

(But I will gripe a little about Hammond if he refuses to let Berry go if we don't turn this baseball season around, considering the talent we've got... )

Quote:My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it.

I just got my EC renewal in the mail last week and was getting ready to put in my small upgrade (was going to go up one level).. when my wife had an accident in my car... so it looks like my wallet's temporarily closed for a short period. :(

IMO, if Hammond's not given at least a year extension (and preferably 2 to 3), the IHL will be making a statement that they want to hold USM down in terms of athletics.

Did I dream this or did we not have a 10 game win streak and are in 1st place in the league?

did we take over first?? I thought we were still in third? (But I've been pre-occupied)

(04-24-2013 01:48 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 01:44 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Why any Southern Miss fan would question Jeff Hammond's job security is beyond bizarre. The man was handed a mess and has done more than any other AD, short of a divine miracle, to stabilize your program. Add in the fact that his blood, sweat and tears are invested in the Golden Eagle football program.

You are lucky to have him. I respected him as a competitor when we were younger and faster, and even more so now as we are getting older.

Be thankful you didn't get a RC Johnson.

Because it's Andre and he's had a bug in his arse about General Hammond from day 1 from his "temporary" hiring. (It took all the way up to Tyndal's NIT run to even make Andre even "consider" Hammond was doing anything correctly.)

(But I will gripe a little about Hammond if he refuses to let Berry go if we don't turn this baseball season around, considering the talent we've got... )

Quote:My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it.

I just got my EC renewal in the mail last week and was getting ready to put in my small upgrade (was going to go up one level).. when my wife had an accident in my car... so it looks like my wallet's temporarily closed for a short period. :(

IMO, if Hammond's not given at least a year extension (and preferably 2 to 3), the IHL will be making a statement that they want to hold USM down in terms of athletics.

Did I dream this or did we not have a 10 game win streak and are in 1st place in the league?

did we take over first?? I thought we were still in third? (But I've been pre-occupied)

We went into first 2 weeks ago. we are a game ahead of rice right now.

http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/m-ba...-body.html

How much longer does he last???? ....longer than this thread...that is certain...all the other bs...y'all just keep on keepin' on

...the rhetoric is ass spanking funny

(04-24-2013 06:26 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  How much longer does he last???? ....longer than this thread...that is certain...all the other bs...y'all just keep on keepin' on

...the rhetoric is ass spanking funny

Just because you think he should keep his job, doesn't mean it will happen.

Maybe he gets an extension, but don't be surprised if he doesn't.

(04-24-2013 07:00 AM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 06:26 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  How much longer does he last???? ....longer than this thread...that is certain...all the other bs...y'all just keep on keepin' on

...the rhetoric is ass spanking funny

Just because you think he should keep his job, doesn't mean it will happen.

Maybe he gets an extension, but don't be surprised if he doesn't.

Have you braced yourself for if he does?

(04-24-2013 07:00 AM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 06:26 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  How much longer does he last???? ....longer than this thread...that is certain...all the other bs...y'all just keep on keepin' on

...the rhetoric is ass spanking funny

Just because you think he should keep his job, doesn't mean it will happen.

Maybe he gets an extension, but don't be surprised if he doesn't.

Nothing surprises me....especially when it comes to USM 'fans'.

Currently, Ole Miss has a 43 million dollar budget and MSU has a 54 million dollar budget. Their conference payout was roughly 31 million dollars last year. CUSA's payout was about 3.3 million dollars. Subtract 28 million dollars from Ole Miss's budget and you have a school generating less revenue than La Tech or UNT. Subtract 28 million dollars from MSU and you have a school generating less revenue than any school in the AAC with the possible exception of Tulsa (24-25 million I believe). Less even than ODU with FCS football.

Now, add their tier three academics to the mix.

Toss in the fact that one of them has the state's only public medical school and the only public law school while the other is the state's land grant institution.

Basically, we are being asked to do things in terms of revenue generation that no other school in this state has to face. On top of that, our own fan base has now come to realize the hard way that we didn't hire a Tom Jurich back in the day and instead settled for mediocrity. Hammond won't get a free pass, but then, no one else would either in this situation.
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Some ask why I post a lot about La Tech so lets use this as an example. It seems many fans simply are unaware of nor do they have accurate information concerning the Tech budget, etc. It is posted here that Ole Miss has a budget of $43mil & take away their $28mil conference dist would leave only $15mil which is lesss than that generated by La Tech which is INCORRECT. The last audited La Tech athletic budget was for the year ending June, 2012. It showed gross revenue of $18,734,197 HOWEVER $9,615,531 was taken from the general fund (taxpayer bucks) and $1,892,688 was ncaa and conference dist thus Tech generated only $7,275,978 on their own. Tech had a total of only $724,517 in ticket sales for their home football games that year-compare that with Ole Miss. I dont like Ole Miss, not kissin up, but facts must speak for themselves.

(04-24-2013 01:44 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:53 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Why any Southern Miss fan would question Jeff Hammond's job security is beyond bizarre. The man was handed a mess and has done more than any other AD, short of a divine miracle, to stabilize your program. Add in the fact that his blood, sweat and tears are invested in the Golden Eagle football program.

You are lucky to have him. I respected him as a competitor when we were younger and faster, and even more so now as we are getting older.

Be thankful you didn't get a RC Johnson.

Because it's Andre and he's had a bug in his arse about General Hammond from day 1 from his "temporary" hiring. (It took all the way up to Tyndal's NIT run to even make Andre even "consider" Hammond was doing anything correctly.)

(But I will gripe a little about Hammond if he refuses to let Berry go if we don't turn this baseball season around, considering the talent we've got... )

Quote:My opinion is if you haven't opened your wallet already, your likely to not ever do it.

I just got my EC renewal in the mail last week and was getting ready to put in my small upgrade (was going to go up one level).. when my wife had an accident in my car... so it looks like my wallet's temporarily closed for a short period. :(

IMO, if Hammond's not given at least a year extension (and preferably 2 to 3), the IHL will be making a statement that they want to hold USM down in terms of athletics.

Did I dream this or did we not have a 10 game win streak and are in 1st place in the league?

We've still significantly underacheived this year. Top 25 to barely over .500 isn't acceptable.

(04-23-2013 09:52 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I remember hearing that he only had a one-year contract. And oh what a long year it's been. Now that the door has closed another couple of inches on USM's chances of getting into a conference that's worthy of our history / ambition , I can't help but think Jeff's days are numbered. He's done an OK job of balancing the budget, if anyone cared about that, but other than that I perceive zero progress coming from Jeff or his department.

Does anyone know anything specific about his status? Has anyone heard anything about a contract extension, for example?

You are 100% dumb@ss. No doubt you worship at the alter of Richard Giannini, who came close to destroying athletics at USM.