(04-21-2013 06:47 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: I like MSU, but I don't like your approach in this post. Missouri State is not God's gift to athletics. The Sun Belt will be fine with or without you.
With that said, moving up to FBS might get really hard to do after we fill this last spot. Beggars can't be choosers.
I actually like his approach. The Sunbelt isn't God's gift to them either.
I don't want them and everyone who posts here know exactly why I don't.
Hopefully it doesn't come across as being pompous, because that's the last thing Missouri State fans are.
We have plenty of school pimping threads... SBC fans, I believe all he is asking is for a "Pimp my Conference"
(04-21-2013 06:40 PM)msu_bears Wrote: I've seen discussion here of MSU on your board as an expansion candidate. Most of our fans would love a CUSA/AAC invite but are completely turned off by your basketball and we are a basketball school first so that needs to be addressed.
I was thinking these things would make the invite more tempting to accept.
1)Somehow pull in Wichita St (and possibly ORU, Belmont, and/or JMU) to improve the hoops. WSU is becoming an outlier in the MVC and lost their biggest rival in Creighton and will lose their remaining biggest rival if we leave too.
2)Bring in New Mex St as a basketball school, they have good basketball program.
3) kick Idaho out or promise us in writing that we never have to fly out there
4) keep ark. St from leaving
5) we can't leave arch madness with 17-20k at the championship each year to go play in a tiny town in arkansas. That needs to be addressed
6) TV for basketball, what kind of TV coverage do you guys get? The MVC gets 30-40 games on each fox sports-midwest and the ESPN networks for basketball.
Our basketball sucks, but we do have these things going for us.
1. There is only one FBS invite remaining at this moment
2. CUSA and the MAC don't hold that invite.
3. We have excellent baseball.
Though lets be clear, Missouri State basketball isn't exactly lighting up the MVC right now either.
(04-21-2013 08:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Though lets be clear, Missouri State basketball isn't exactly lighting up the MVC right now either.
we would immediately have the best arena and attendance in the league. We had a rough rebuilding year last season but we were also one of the youngest teams in the NCAA starting 4 freshman and we are only 2 years removed from winning the MVC. We will be competing for the MVC title next season.
(04-21-2013 06:47 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: I like MSU, but I don't like your approach in this post. Missouri State is not God's gift to athletics. The Sun Belt will be fine with or without you.
With that said, moving up to FBS might get really hard to do after we fill this last spot. Beggars can't be choosers.
I actually like his approach. The Sunbelt isn't God's gift to them either.
I don't want them and everyone who posts here know exactly why I don't.
Hopefully it doesn't come across as being pompous, because that's the last thing Missouri State fans are.
We have plenty of school pimping threads... SBC fans, I believe all he is asking is for a "Pimp my Conference"
(04-21-2013 06:40 PM)msu_bears Wrote: I've seen discussion here of MSU on your board as an expansion candidate. Most of our fans would love a CUSA/AAC invite but are completely turned off by your basketball and we are a basketball school first so that needs to be addressed.
I was thinking these things would make the invite more tempting to accept.
1)Somehow pull in Wichita St (and possibly ORU, Belmont, and/or JMU) to improve the hoops. WSU is becoming an outlier in the MVC and lost their biggest rival in Creighton and will lose their remaining biggest rival if we leave too. No one else is joining. You're main interest in joining is football
2)Bring in New Mex St as a basketball school, they have good basketball program. If their basketball comes then yours isnt
3) kick Idaho out or promise us in writing that we never have to fly out there Get over it
4)keep ark. St from leaving We would love nothing more
5) we can't leave arch madness with 17-20k at the championship each year to go play in a tiny town in arkansas. That needs to be addressed Its moved to NOLA
6) TV for basketball, what kind of TV coverage do you guys get? The MVC gets 30-40 games on each fox sports-midwest and the ESPN networks for basketball. Again this is a football decision. If you don't want FBS football then stay where you are
Pretty obvious that football isn't nearly as important as basketball to Missouri State.
If that's the case they should not be in the Sun Belt.
We want good basketball, but not at the expense of Sun Belt football.
(04-21-2013 08:06 PM)msu_bears Wrote: I offer you guys ideas to improve your hoops, and you guys respond with defensiveness and hate...
Your post reeks of someone holding the cards knowing we need you more than you need us and that is flat out wrong. This is why so many, myself included are angry at such a ridiculous post. Concessions were not made for GSU or App, and they will not be made for MSU or anyone else seeking FBS asylum in the SBC. If anyone were calling for concessions, it would be out of the group of UL, ULM, Troy, stAte, USA and UALR, everyone else is new to our block party and we are welcoming without issue. Realize that we want your school primarily because of the basketball tradition, to help improve our basketball. Without it your chances of getting into the conference are somewhere between 0 and 1 percent, so telling us to improve our basketball is like telling someone that's anorexic they need to eat something, when they are eating a sandwich already.
Lastly, by dictating, what you said, you took a shot at a current standing SBC member in Idaho which is insulting, and as members of that institutions conference we will come to their defense.
Would I accept MSU in the conference? At the risk of the other options, absolutely. Would I accept them in the conference by conforming to demands put in place by their administration? No way on earth, we're a lot of things, but we are not beggars.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2013 09:16 PM by Tuffguy21.)
(04-21-2013 08:06 PM)msu_bears Wrote: I offer you guys ideas to improve your hoops, and you guys respond with defensiveness and hate...
Your post reeks of someone holding the cards knowing we need you more than you need us and that is flat out wrong. This is why so many, myself included are angry at such a ridiculous post. Concessions were not made for GSU or App, and they will not be made for MSU or anyone else seeking FBS asylum in the SBC. If anyone were calling for concessions, it would be out of the group of UL, ULM, Troy, stAte, USA and UALR, everyone else is new to our block party and we are welcoming without issue. Realize that we want your school primarily because of the basketball tradition, to help improve our basketball, without it your chances of getting into the conference are somewhere between 0 and 1 percent, so telling us to improve our basketball is like telling someone that's anorexic they need to eat something, when they are eating a sandwich already.
Lastly, by dictating, what you said, you took a shot at a current standing SBC member in Idaho which is insulting, and as members of that institutions conference we will come to their defense.
Would I accept MSU in the conference? At the risk of the other options, absolutely. Would I accept them in the conference by conforming to demands put in place by their administration? No way on earth, we're a lot of things, but we are not beggars.
Well put. Soon the SB will show what the hell we are made of, and schools will be begging to get in.
The Vikings were not the most numerous, but they were feared.
Those at the Alamo knew they probably wouldn't win, but they were determined to have freedom or die trying.
What the SB is taking on is absolutely achievable.
Seems some of these schools do not know of the fabric we are made.
The one's worthy should be bringing it, all else need not apply.
(04-21-2013 06:47 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: I like MSU, but I don't like your approach in this post. Missouri State is not God's gift to athletics. The Sun Belt will be fine with or without you.
With that said, moving up to FBS might get really hard to do after we fill this last spot. Beggars can't be choosers.
I actually like his approach. The Sunbelt isn't God's gift to them either.
I don't want them and everyone who posts here know exactly why I don't.
Hopefully it doesn't come across as being pompous, because that's the last thing Missouri State fans are.
We have plenty of school pimping threads... SBC fans, I believe all he is asking is for a "Pimp my Conference"
And we are saying "piss off".
Classy...
I'll reply with a big f* you, then.
WE ARE. MO STATE
Given the tone of the post, I'd say that you are totally ignorant of what class is. I was simply responding to you in simple terms I'm certain you understand.
Looks like I gave you a bit too much credit at first and should have gone directiy to the F bomb.
Man, i never thought i would say this, but having the best basketball tradition, if you were to move to the sbc is not enough when the move here is predicated on football. Football at mo st on the level of high school all star team and does not out draw Idaho in fan support.
That said, if you come, you would be begging for that little town in arkansas after you make a long trip for you to new orleans lake front. Moving from 15k fans in stl to 1500 fans in a city that does not care about you.
Do you really want football that bad? Then stfu and get the car, because trial by fire is the only way to make it to the big time football and even in the sbc you guys will be everyone ***** for at least 5 years.
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