According to Bobby this morning. He said when he had introduced Sander that way he was told that. He siad it sounds like it is Sander's job for as long as he wants it.

Not sure this is a good thing, honestly. Sander is a basketball guy, which I love. He also is the one that has said that he would rather play FCS football rather than FBS. He admittedly is not a football guy, even in his football press conference he said he is not a football guy. Not sure he is the right fit when we are starting a football program.

But better than a tennis coach!

(04-18-2013 08:37 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  Not sure this is a good thing, honestly. Sander is a basketball guy, which I love. He also is the one that has said that he would rather play FCS football rather than FBS. He admittedly is not a football guy, even in his football press conference he said he is not a football guy. Not sure he is the right fit when we are starting a football program.

But better than a tennis coach!

That is the reason he hired Fulmer.

This is what I thought would happen all along, predicted this as a likely scenario, and personally I love this. Sander certainly isn't the Second Coming, but he's likely as close to that as this university will be able to see here. I think he and Noland make a good pair, and a good fit. The sense that we are going to be coming out of our self-imposed purgatory keeps growing. It's like we've paid our dues for 10 years, and now we're about to at least get to our halfway-house release.

As to the football/basketball issue, although I'm sure glad we got football back, I think basketball could, and should, be the driver for our athletics program still - for at least the next 3-5 years or so. Unless Fulmer somehow decides to stay on (and that ain't gonna happen), football will take time to get it's bearings and get a foothold.

Sander may be a basketball guy, but Noland "gets" that football is essential, and he's proven he's going to drive it forward. He's the boss, with Sander the loyal charge de afaire. From what I've heard, their relationship is very good, and they like the partnership they've formed, and with the exception of the disintegration of the SoCon, they like how things are moving along. Sander likes living here, and he likes that he sort of "has nothing to lose", because he's doing this on his terms, with no future career agenda pushing him.

This is great news.

First of all, I was wondering why an "interim" guy would be given so much responsibility. It spoke of preparing a puppet for the AD job in the future.

Second, how sweet is it that Sander is a year older than Mullins, who "retired"? It really does speak of Noland realizing what bad shape athletics is in and hiring someone with experience to fix it.

Third, I have the same reservations about starting up football with a basketball guy, but those reservations are eased up somewhat with Fulmer on board. Still, I'd like to have more open door policy here. We used to have an open door on grant writing procedure, fully explained on the Bucs' website.

The more information leaked, the more buzz. The more buzz, the better.

Now, let's also say the honeymoon is officially over AND

A- What's keeping the hiring of a women's basketball coach? If you want to know who I'd like to hire, it would be Agnus Berenato, late of Pitt. I know her record wasn't much the last two years with the Panthers. No matter. I guarantee you will not find a more likeable person on earth and the overall record she did at Pitt was great.

I don't know if ETSU could get her or if she'd want to take the step down. I think she'd be a tremendous color commentator or studio host on ESPN and I also think she would be a very valuable assistant at a major school.

If, by some odd chance, she is hired, I am telling you ETSU fans will start asking her to coach the men's team the way Tennessee fans wanted to have Pat Summitt coach the men there.

B- I also don't like the idea of ETSU settling for FCS. But by the time they could make the move to FBS, Sander will be retired.

Besides, if you want ETSU to be FBS, then this board and the fan base can have tremendous influence in having that happen in future years.

C- At his age, it is unlikely Sander will be the AD for more than a few years. Does the next ETSU AD come internally for longevity purposes, as well as to keep their vision humming along?

Or is it too early to consider this?

(04-18-2013 09:48 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  Or is it too early to consider this?

Bingo.

Well someone has to start it....if he is here for only a few years then so be it. While we all would like the first HC of the restarted football program to be very successful and stay here til he retires, that is probably unlikely.

If this turns out to not be true for whatever reason, call and raise hell with Bobby Radar, not me, I am just repeating what he said. I can't think why Bobby would make it up, it just came up in conversation with Bud talking
about the Bartow article in the paper and the moved to talking about ETSU athletics in general, football womens basketball.
Bud said he was suprised they had not named a womens coach yet but maybe they were waiting to name the new AD and
then is when Bobby said that.

A few things here.
1. The women's job hasn't been posted ANYWHERE, which violates all sorts of EEO laws. Neither was the A.D. job. Perhaps someone with a really detailed H.R. background can explain how that one works.
2. Like it or not, agree with it or not, Karen was well liked, if she wasn't then she wouldn't have gotten marquee games in Johnson City. Coaches gossip, they know the real story. If you can't trust someone, you sure as hell won't work for them.
3. The interim tag was taken off to get stability. No compliance officer, no women's coach. It's a problem.

I have no doubt that Bobby said this, but I still wonder if it is true. I have listened to that morning show for years- and I usually know more about what is going on at ETSU athletics than they do. It seems like Kenny Hawkins would break a story like this instead.

(04-18-2013 07:06 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  I have no doubt that Bobby said this, but I still wonder if it is true. I have listened to that morning show for years- and I usually know more about what is going on at ETSU athletics than they do. It seems like Kenny Hawkins would break a story like this instead.

Like I said he didn't "Break" the story he just mentioned it when Bud said something about maybe a womens coach wouldn't be hired until an AD was.

(04-18-2013 07:06 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  I have no doubt that Bobby said this, but I still wonder if it is true. I have listened to that morning show for years- and I usually know more about what is going on at ETSU athletics than they do. It seems like Kenny Hawkins would break a story like this instead.

The "interim" tag was removed from the ETSU site weeks ago. Bobby corrected himself immediately after that interview with Sander. I was wondering if I had missed the announcement as soon as I heard it the first time. I guess no official announcement was ever made. Wonder why?

(04-18-2013 03:59 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  A few things here.
1. The women's job hasn't been posted ANYWHERE, which violates all sorts of EEO laws. Neither was the A.D. job. Perhaps someone with a really detailed H.R. background can explain how that one works.
2. Like it or not, agree with it or not, Karen was well liked, if she wasn't then she wouldn't have gotten marquee games in Johnson City. Coaches gossip, they know the real story. If you can't trust someone, you sure as hell won't work for them.
3. The interim tag was taken off to get stability. No compliance officer, no women's coach. It's a problem.

What EEO statutes have been violated if the university isn't actively pursuing anyone at this point? I don't think the interim tag has been removed from the AD position. If it had been removed the print/electronic media what have reported it before now.

(04-19-2013 10:51 AM)72Grad Wrote:  What EEO statutes have been violated if the university isn't actively pursuing anyone at this point? I don't think the interim tag has been removed from the AD position. If it had been removed the print/electronic media what have reported it before now.

You would think that but consider the history of local media it would hardly be surprising.

You have to post any job that comes available to give people the opportunity to apply for it so you don't discriminate on the basis of race, religion, sex, sexual preference, age, etc... It's a little shady to just remove the interim tag without posting the job and giving folks who may want the job and BE MORE QUALIFIED to apply for it.
How would you feel if ETSU had just appointed Wilsie Bishop or David Collins interim president then just magically removed the tag when Stanton retired?
Same goes with women's basketball. If it hasn't been posted, how can someone apply for it and help the university remain compliant?
And perhaps one of the many ETSU employees on here can post what's in the handbook about posting new jobs as they become available and the minimum time it has to be posted?