(04-18-2013 12:10 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  I have a terrorist joke about the logo, but in light of recent events, it would be in poor taste I think.

Thank you. I live half way between Boston & NY with family in both cities. In this part of the USA terrorist attacks are not a laughing matter.

(04-17-2013 06:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Like you, I'd prefer Philly for obvious reasons. But if the goal is to turn out fans from the league's top basketball programs, Cincy would be the most central location because Louisville will still be in the conference next year and they will send a lot of fans.

If you are going to do it for that reason, then Louisville would be a better choice host it. Being an outgoing member makes that an unlikely and probably bad move, but if you want asses in the seats, there are two choices: Louisville or Memphis, which both draw the most fans, and have the nicest home arenas, and for that matter the largest (there are only two NBA styled arenas in the country that have a larger seating capacity than the KFC YUM Center, and they are in Chicago and Detroit). Being that a short turnaround may be needed to get ready for next year, I think those are the two best options for year one. Of the five biggest programs heading into next season in the conference, Louisville or Cincy would be the most centralized, with Louisville having the better arena situation.

After next year, Memphis becomes the most centralized teams when Tulane and Tulsa join, so that's likely the best place for it. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to have an outgoing member host the tournament, but realistically I think it might be the best option to ensure a full house, while still being a reasonable drive for as many of the larger fanbases (UC, UM, Tem, Uconn) as possible.

Go to the venue that can pay the most. I'm guessing that is Memphis with their 18,000 fans.

That would probably be Louisville and the 22,000 fans that go to each home game. Hell there were 30,000 who travelled down to Atlanta to go to the Final Four (probably more, but tickets were scarce). But again, I'm not sure how having a departing member host looks. I just think having the defending national champion, and probably top five team host in a beautiful new arena is a good jumping off point to then hand over to Memphis.

(04-18-2013 12:28 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Go to the venue that can pay the most. I'm guessing that is Memphis with their 18,000 fans.

Memphis wasn't able to sell out the last CUSA championship game when Louisville was still in the conference nor have they since, so they don't seem to be a great choice.

Louisville is clearly the best choice, but no way will that happen.

Personally if it's not going to be in Philly or Hartford, I'd be most excited if it was in New Orleans. (Love that town.) But that's not happening either.

Louisville hosted the women's tournament this year. Apparently one of the guys from the NCAA told the UofL officials, "all you have to do is ask, and we will give you the NCAA women's Final Four." Louisville averages 10,000 per game for women's basketball. We love basketball around these parts, hence why for the 13th year in a row, the NCAA tournament ratings were higher in Louisville than any other city by a ridiculously wide margin.

(04-18-2013 12:48 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Louisville hosted the women's tournament this year. Apparently one of the guys from the NCAA told the UofL officials, "all you have to do is ask, and we will give you the NCAA women's Final Four." Louisville averages 10,000 per game for women's basketball. We love basketball around these parts, hence why for the 13th year in a row, the NCAA tournament ratings were higher in Louisville than any other city by a ridiculously wide margin.

Do you mean TV ratings?

(04-18-2013 12:38 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  That would probably be Louisville and the 22,000 fans that go to each home game. Hell there were 30,000 who travelled down to Atlanta to go to the Final Four (probably more, but tickets were scarce). But again, I'm not sure how having a departing member host looks. I just think having the defending national champion, and probably top five team host in a beautiful new arena is a good jumping off point to then hand over to Memphis.

That works for me although I'm not sure if Aresco would want a departing member to host the event. I'm cool with it if it means more exposure.

(04-18-2013 01:01 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 12:38 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  That would probably be Louisville and the 22,000 fans that go to each home game. Hell there were 30,000 who travelled down to Atlanta to go to the Final Four (probably more, but tickets were scarce). But again, I'm not sure how having a departing member host looks. I just think having the defending national champion, and probably top five team host in a beautiful new arena is a good jumping off point to then hand over to Memphis.

That works for me although I'm not sure if Aresco would want a departing member to host the event. I'm cool with it if it means more exposure.

Doesn't matter what Aresco wants. There's not a single conference member who would agree to having Louisville host anything on its way out of town.

(04-18-2013 12:44 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Memphis wasn't able to sell out the last CUSA championship game when Louisville was still in the conference nor have they since, so they don't seem to be a great choice.

We've had probably 15,000+ for every CUSA championship game we have hosted (other than that game in 2005). Not a bad showing for a 10:30am game that we knew we were going to win and virtually no fan support for the opposing team. Marshall had 400-500 fans for the game in 2012. I don't remember Tulsa bringing many the 2 times we played them. UAB and Southern Miss never had many fans at the CUSA tourneys in Memphis.

I'd be willing to bet a 2014 AAC championship game on a Sat afternoon or night in Memphis featuring the Tigers and Louisville, UCONN or Cincy would be sold out. Especially if the non- UM school brings 500-1000 fans. UL would probably have 3000+

Selecting Louisville as the host for 2014 would clearly be the biggest short-term financial windfall for the league and it's members, but realistically that isn't going to happen. The league will take less money in Memphis or Philly (a good deal less) to avoid hearing announcers next March discussing the departure of the host school.

(04-18-2013 12:58 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  We love basketball around these parts, hence why for the 13th year in a row, the NCAA tournament ratings were higher in Louisville than any other city by a ridiculously wide margin.

Do you mean TV ratings?


yes. For the (men's) NCAA tournament. Here is an article about last year's NCAA tournament.

Louisville market is highest rated for NCAA tournament

Quote:According to data released from the CBS network Tuesday, one in four televisions in the Louisville market have been tuned into the NCAA Tournament since it started on March 15.

Louisville is the highest-rated television market in the country, with a 25.8 rating, which is the gross average rating for the four stations the tournament aired on: CBS, TBS, TNT and truTV.

The ratings are an industry standard used to estimate the number of households in a media market that are tuned to a station while a program is being aired.

Louisville had 46 percent more viewers than second place Cincinnati, which averaged a 17.7 rating. Columbus, Ohio averaged a 17.2 rating

Usually I can find the article that lists the breakdown per year, but most of the articles I see now are about the championship game. However, it's not an anomaly due to Louisville's team this year. the ratings are highest in Louisville each year by a wide margin.


The Top TV Markets For NCAA Championship Game Viewing Were…

Quote:Louisville was the top-rated market: CBS affiliate WLKY posted a rating/share of 54.0/70. See the full list of the top five rated markets after the jump.

Top five rated metered markets:
Louisville – 54.0/70
Detroit – 33.5/47
Columbus, Ohio – 26.4/40
Indianapolis – 25.1/39
Cincinnati – 24.7/38

Totally unrelated, but I found this will looking up that information. Food for though when someone tells you that basketball is worthless:

10 Highest Rated College Sports Telecasts

2012-13 academic year

(04-18-2013 01:46 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Totally unrelated, but I found this will looking up that information. Food for though when someone tells you that basketball is worthless:

10 Highest Rated College Sports Telecasts

2012-13 academic year

Code:

#    Date    Sport    Winner    Loser    Event    Net    Rating
1    Mon., 1/7/13    Football    Alabama    Notre Dame    Champ. Gm.    ESPN    15.1
2    Mon., 4/8/13    Basketball    Louisville    Michigan    Champ. Gm.    CBS    14
3    Sat., 4/6/13    Basketball    Michigan    Syracuse    Final Four    CBS    10.2
4    Sat., 12/1/12    Football    Alabama    Georgia    SEC Champ.    CBS    9.8
T5    Tue., 1/1/13    Football    Stanford    Wisconsin    Rose Bowl    ESPN    9.4
T5    Sat., 11/24/12    Football    Notre Dame    Southern Cal    Reg. Season    ABC    9.4
7    Sun., 3/31/13    Basketball    Louisville    Duke    Elite Eight    CBS    8.8
8    Sat., 4/6/13    Basketball    Louisville    Wichita St.    Final Four    CBS    8.7
9    Thu., 1/3/13    Football    Oregon    Kansas St.    Fiesta Bowl    ESPN    7.4
10    Fri., 1/4/13    Football    Texas A&M    Oklahoma    Cotton Bowl    FOX    7.2

Those were all Tourney games though, they don't drive conference TV contracts. They garner the numbers they do because it's an event, not because basketball itself has any value. The Louisville/Duke numbers for Atlantis would be an interesting comparison.

I have a list of the ratings for every basketball game and football game too. You'd be surprised what you get if you add them all up. I just don't have time at the moment, but combing thru them all, I'd say that if you added up the total viewership for every regular season football game and every regular season football game, converted them into hours viewed, and paired it down to 100 viewers, it would be something along the lines of 55 people watching football and 45people watching basketball. Yes there are more basketball games than football games, but that is part of it. It also costs 5 times as much to produce a football game as it does a basketball game.
If I have time one day I will do it, but it will take a while to compile, as they are not in dataset format.

(04-18-2013 01:44 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(04-18-2013 12:58 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Do you mean TV ratings?

yes. For the (men's) NCAA tournament. Here is an article about last year's NCAA tournament.

Thank you.

(04-18-2013 04:00 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  I have a list of the ratings for every basketball game and football game too. You'd be surprised what you get if you add them all up. I just don't have time at the moment, but combing thru them all, I'd say that if you added up the total viewership for every regular season football game and every regular season football game, converted them into hours viewed, and paired it down to 100 viewers, it would be something along the lines of 55 people watching football and 45people watching basketball. Yes there are more basketball games than football games, but that is part of it. It also costs 5 times as much to produce a football game as it does a basketball game.
If I have time one day I will do it, but it will take a while to compile, as they are not in dataset format.

That would be interesting.

(04-18-2013 09:37 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  He also said to expect Metro to be part of the conference name too.

I think this guy just throws crap at the wall and goes with whatever sticks

THIS X 100,000,000