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(04-15-2013 11:16 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(04-15-2013 11:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(04-15-2013 10:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-15-2013 10:36 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  He actually said it in the article....ticket sales, media rights, donations. Those are the big 3. UNC is losing 7-8 million a year just on football ticket sales as an example.

Yep it's the one in the middle of that lineup that spurs the speculation. That doesn't increase until the content increases. That means that either the ACC gets a significant couple of adds and a network that maximizes that added content, or you become the content elsewhere.

I tend to think you will get additions, but ones that make an impact .....well those would have to come from the Big 12. That's where it could get interesting. But either way what Bubba is saying is that North Carolina needs additional money almost in the exact amounts that the Big 10 and SEC have to offer. So either you get it by adding Texas and Oklahoma (or Kansas) and morphing the LHN into an ACC network or you move because otherwise you fall farther behind in revenue and that does not lead to security.

You have to remember the ACC was just under a 13 mil a year contract. That increased to 17 with Pitt and Syracuse who haven't started yet. Now it's going to 18+ because of ND. That's just base revenue. Second, in 2014 everyone starts getting playoff money (Big 5 conferences) and money from the OB. Third, the NCAA tourney payouts will increase due to significant upgrades in basketball teams. Once you actually sit down and think about it, it starts to add up pretty quick.
The Big 10 will be at 42 the SEC at 35 for three years then it moves to 40 once the start up money is covered by reductions in the first three years and we all get playoff money too and tournament money and I promise you what the Big 10 and SEC get in bowl and playoff money will be significantly higher than that of the ACC. Notre Dame boosts your profile but not that much. Basketball accounts for 15% of sports revenue. And keep in mind that the elimination of other conferences only raises the survivors shares of playoff money. Three 20 team conferences for instance would net 2 million more per year each by elinimating two of the remaining 5 conferences. That's not content revenue bumps. That's not market money. That's pure profit by eradicating two competitors. It's also incentive. Now to put a sobering tone on events cash is getting harder to come by not easier. It's the need to replace diminishing state and federal funds that is driving realignment anyway. So ticket sales increases are pie in the sky right now. Increased donations will have to be corporate and they have strings attached. Private donations are drying up. That leaves media as the panacea that all of these conferences are hoping to cover the short state revenue streams with. Now those are the facts.

You need content and a network. We'll see.

1) This discussion is about UNC.
2) For UNC basketball is NOT 15% of revenue. Right now it's almost 45%. UNC makes as much in basketball as some schools make period.
3) The numbers 42 and 35 you threw out would include everything. I'm still skeptical of the Big 10 numbers but the ACC will come in the 30s.
4) Content? Dude are you serious? The Pac 12 has a network (for example). The ACC has way more and better content than they do. ACC's Olympic sports are some of the best in the nation. Now you're talking about a conference that will have UNC, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt, ND, FSU, UVA, NC State basketball. Football with FSU, Miami, Va Tech, UNC, Clemson, ND part-time.
5) Donations don't have to be corporate. Donors are all over the place at all schools. As an example, UVA gets about 30 mil from donors a year. UNC only gets about half that. That gap needs to be fixed.
I've worked with foundations at a top school before. Private donations have been shrinking significantly since the death of the greatest contributors in U.S. history the WWII generation. Boomers give only 25% of what their parents did and that is shrinking too. Lower wages for succeeding generations and inflation have struck a significant blow to the those coming along. Corporate donations are up, but as I said they have strings attached. Look around at the Red Cross, orphanages, churches, and other charitable organization and they will tell you the same. You're selling but I'm not buying because I've seen the goods.

And remember that the teams on the West Coast don't compete with a behemoth like the SEC for ratings in the most profitable sport. Check out the top 10 earning institutions sports wise in the nation and then tell me Carolina makes enough off of basketball. Yes you make more than most but that still pales in comparison to football and that list will prove it.

The simple truth is that the ACC was only vulnerable for 1 reason. Some of your brands were worth more in other conferences than they are worth in the ACC. It's a simple matter of buying a great business that is undervalued and breaking its most profitable products out for inclusion in a more profitable product line. Now if you increase your value you will survive. ESPN will determine that.
Right now you do lack content. I hear all of this great boasting about olympic sports in the ACC. Track and Field and Swimming and Diving have been owned by the SEC and the SEC & PAC respectively. Michigan had an outstanding season this year in Swimming and Diving. Gymnastics is owned by the SEC. What is it that the ACC offers outside of good baseball (not championship outside of Miami) and good basketball (which is not up to speed with its history). Two products make money: basketball and football. Of those nationwide football accounts for 85% of the sports revenue. The ACC has no football chops outside of F.S.U. and Clemson. Virginia Tech is slipping and Miami is bogged down. You need football content, period. The earning power of the ACC and all of the numbers you cite are almost doubled in the SEC and Big 10. Equaling those two in earnings isn't going to magically appear when sports viewing and attendance is trending down. Think about that.
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haha, this discussion is hilarious. Look, no one blames ACC fans for drinking the kool-aid and defying common sense, but this argument boils down to one incredibly simple fact...

UNC joins B1G, then 40% revenue increase happens over night.

UNC does NOT join B1G, then 40% revenue increase is extremely unlikely and even if possible, will involve 1) insane amount of work 2) better OOC scheduling 3) operating perfectly 4) luck.

As a former Big East member, I know exactly how it feels to deny the pecking order, and be delusional about conference loyalty. ...but karma's coming to the ACC one way or another. At the end of the day, UNC can double its revenue tomorrow by joining the B1G - how do you possibly compare with that?? I love the ACC network argument, because you obviously do not understand the power of ESPN and the contract you signed. Even if ESPN were to magically decide to really work with the ACC, it would never truly be a free reign type of thing, and would never bring in as much money as the BIG network. If you can't face that reality, then you've been spending way too much time with Tallgrass on spin island.

This is simple dollars and sense... UNC gets better bowls, more money, more prestige, CIC (which despite what you may think, is THE the most important), and infinite stability in the B1G. Now, do you really think they'll stand pat... as their buddies take the offer? Because if UNC balks, others WILL go upon being offered.
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@JrSEC. I 100% agree with you on decreasing donations, which is certainly a factor and not exactly easy these days for AD's to magically muster up. But I think your argument on competitiveness could be more distilled to ACC really doesn't have a legitimate team that fills stadiums. I mean we both know this is all about Football, and I can't remember seeing a fully packed ACC stadium unless they were playing a big time SEC or B1G team. SEC and B1G have such rabid fan bases that they fill OPPOSING stadiums - no matter their record! This seems like a micro thing, but it's not, because content starts from the top to the bottom, and in conference-based football you're as powerful as your top tier. Big 12 is alive because of it. As you pointed out, ACC doesn't have anyone that fills a top tier. They may have some competitive teams, maybe even one that could win a national championship one year... but do they have ANY teams that will fill stadiums even in a 5-7 year? No. But in B1G or SEC... teams like Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Kentucky etc... who in ACC would probably be very similar to a lot of the programs, are instead, fat on money because they're in a conference with big dogs who sell out games, bring on big time cultural excitement, and fill the stands on TV. Notre Dame helps, but by being a partial member with special considerations... it's almost a slap in the face of the legitimacy of the conference.
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If Louisville can get their revenue up to nearly $90,000,000 in the Big East then UNC can EASILY do this in the ACC. As much as I hate to admit it UNC's alumni base has a crap load of money at their disposal.

If they relocate, then they relocate but they don't have to have the B1G or SEC to generate this kind of money. I can't believe anybody on this thread would think otherwise.
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(04-16-2013 12:17 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  If Louisville can get their revenue up to nearly $90,000,000 in the Big East then UNC can EASILY do this in the ACC. As much as I hate to admit it UNC's alumni base has a crap load of money at their disposal.

If they relocate, then they relocate but they don't have to have the B1G or SEC to generate this kind of money. I can't believe anybody on this thread would think otherwise.

"easily". Louisville is a very rare case with 1) one of the best AD's in the country 2) athletic focus/alumni engagement on the rise that hadn't previously been over-hit 3) specific fundraising goals 4) winning tradition 5) clean programs 6) accepted into ACC

Of course, UNC COULD change gears and be on the positive in 5-6 years with drastic improvements and wins. But, they could also "easily" accomplish that the moment they accept an invite. If you can get $1000 for saying hello to a friend, versus raising a $1000 by asking 1000 friends... what route are you going to take?

But to imply 'easily'... is to naively believe that the absolute perfect organizational situation will magically appear at UNC. There is FAR more data from schools that have not been able to succeed, who are just as promising, than ones that have (Louisville).
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The only challenge UNC has would be making their fans care about football more, thus driving more ticket sales. If UL can do it from CUSA to Big East I'd say UNC can do it as well. Hell, UL was playing football in a minor league baseball stadium until the late 1990's. UNC has the brand, winning tradition in hoops, rich alumni to make this happen w/o Big 10 or SEC.

Big 10 and SEC would make this easier to raise this money but it also means losing a lot. Also consider the fan backlash. Very few people on Tobacco Rd want to see their programs playing Big 10 and SEC foes. People that aren't from NC just don't get it IMO. The majority like the status quo. Who knows what that would do to ticket sales?

That's just my $0.02.
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(04-16-2013 12:35 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  The only challenge UNC has would be making their fans care about football more, thus driving more ticket sales. If UL can do it from CUSA to Big East I'd say UNC can do it as well. Hell, UL was playing football in a minor league baseball stadium until the late 1990's. UNC has the brand, winning tradition in hoops, rich alumni to make this happen w/o Big 10 or SEC.

Big 10 and SEC would make this easier to raise this money but it also means losing a lot. Also consider the fan backlash. Very few people on Tobacco Rd want to see their programs playing Big 10 and SEC foes. People that aren't from NC just don't get it IMO. The majority like the status quo. Who knows what that would do to ticket sales?

That's just my $0.02.

I definitely agree with you there, and that's why I think B1G has to move the teams as a package. If UNC comes along with UVA/Gtech and either FSU or Duke, it's going to erase all that backlash. As a Duke fan, I completely get it, and I wouldn't want UNC to leave, as much as they wouldn't want anything to ruin our rivalry.

But... things do change when you get to welcome Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Wisconsin into your stadium... and the entire state is energized by that match up. We Rutgers fans loved our rivalries with Uconn, Navy, Temple, St. Johns, Seton Hall, etc... (of course these aren't Duke/UNC), but every shred of caring for that will be gone the moment Ohio State comes into town.

If UNC goes SEC or B1G, there will be some initial backlash, just like there was at Maryland, but then the AD will explain the benefits and that overnight they now have money to do the things they want to do as a program... and the backlash will be gone before you know it.
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(04-16-2013 12:47 AM)rutgers4life Wrote:  But... things do change when you get to welcome Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Wisconsin into your stadium... and the entire state is energized by that match up.

No, the entire state isn't energized by that match up. NCSU=58K, ECU=50K, WFU=30K, Duke=25K, App State=25K. The majority of us actually aren't UNC fans believe it or not. They just happen to make up the largest individual representation.

Things are a little different in NC. It illustrates part of the problem of why we've never had ONE dominant football program. Combine that with the fact it's more of a basketball state and you get the idea.

A large percentage of the state is energized by games like UNC/Duke, UNC/NCSU, NCSU/ECU, ECU/UNC. Even Wake Forest/App State used to be a pretty big game in football. Bottom line is the entire state of NC isn't energized by a particular matchup and it never will be.
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UNC football fans are not nearly as big of football fans as other North Carolina universities. East Carolina and Appalachian State fans are downright fanatical about their football, the others not so much, but even they are more passionate than the Tar Hills about football. That could change, but have never seen much of an indication that it will.
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RE: UNC AD wants to boost athletic revenue by 40%!
(04-16-2013 12:47 AM)rutgers4life Wrote:  
(04-16-2013 12:35 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  The only challenge UNC has would be making their fans care about football more, thus driving more ticket sales. If UL can do it from CUSA to Big East I'd say UNC can do it as well. Hell, UL was playing football in a minor league baseball stadium until the late 1990's. UNC has the brand, winning tradition in hoops, rich alumni to make this happen w/o Big 10 or SEC.

Big 10 and SEC would make this easier to raise this money but it also means losing a lot. Also consider the fan backlash. Very few people on Tobacco Rd want to see their programs playing Big 10 and SEC foes. People that aren't from NC just don't get it IMO. The majority like the status quo. Who knows what that would do to ticket sales?

That's just my $0.02.

I definitely agree with you there, and that's why I think B1G has to move the teams as a package. If UNC comes along with UVA/Gtech and either FSU or Duke, it's going to erase all that backlash. As a Duke fan, I completely get it, and I wouldn't want UNC to leave, as much as they wouldn't want anything to ruin our rivalry.

But... things do change when you get to welcome Ohio State, Michigan, MSU, Nebraska, Wisconsin into your stadium... and the entire state is energized by that match up. We Rutgers fans loved our rivalries with Uconn, Navy, Temple, St. Johns, Seton Hall, etc... (of course these aren't Duke/UNC), but every shred of caring for that will be gone the moment Ohio State comes into town.

If UNC goes SEC or B1G, there will be some initial backlash, just like there was at Maryland, but then the AD will explain the benefits and that overnight they now have money to do the things they want to do as a program... and the backlash will be gone before you know it.


But that's my point with this discussion and what you see UNC trying to do. They don't want to move to make up for this revenue gap. All of you ACC naysayers believe switching conferences is the answer. Well in alot of cases it's not, especially if you can make up the money on your own.

I gave you an example of Louisville because they are the poster child for revenue growth without large TV contracts, but they are far from the exception. Just look at UVA, same conference, similar size, not the same brand. However, UVA has higher revenues than UNC. UVA increased their revenues from 52 mil in 2006 to now pushing 80 mil. UNC in that same time frame went from 60 mil to now close to 74 mil. So UNC was up 8 mil now down almost 6 mil. That's a problem.

There are plenty of other examples I could give you. I posted earlier where the "40%" could come from. Tell me why this can't be done:

7-8 million football ticket sales (last year was 13k below capacity on average)
1-2 million basketball ticket sales (last year was 2k below capacity on average)
12-15 million conference distributions (new media deal, bowl payouts, playoff money, NCAA credits, etc)
7-10 million donations (Need donors to step up)

That's anywhere between 27-35 mill in additional revenue.
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UNC missed the boat when it came to growing their revenue (with the Butch Davis cheating era)...they are hurting but don't want to admit it. Joining the B1G would do it and it may come down to that. Consider this when it comes to UNC...

1)ECU finally "moved up", albeit slightly, but it will re-energize its fan base, which primarily comes from NC....it is investing in its basketball program and will be joining a much better conference in that sport....ECU continues to siphon off potential UNC fans.

2) UNC has a had a stronghold on WNC...but now App State is moving to FBS, which will likely energize that fanbase, but of more significance, Charlotte will rally around Charlotte's move to CUSA and playing FBS football. A Davidson move to the A-10 will be big in Charlotte as well. As well, WNC continues to become more "pro" sports oriented....

3) Over 3 million people moved to North Carolina between 1990-2010....these are not UNC fans and have no allegiance to UNC. And UNC is falling to third and maybe 4th soon (Charlotte is getting bigger) in terms of generating undergrad alums....many of the alums it has counted on are getting older...it just will not have the numbers that care.

4) UNC continues to promote itself nationally and continuing to have less local support (in terms of numbers)...the football attendance shows us that....and basketball tickets are easier and easier to come by...and as the ACC continues to expand you will see less and less other fanbases in Chapel Hill for games....they had it easy when they were playing local schools in getting sellouts...now they'll be seeing Pitt and L-ville to go along with Miami and BC...not many fans making those trips like Duke and NC State used to do.

Maybe Bubba is setting the table for a move long term...because all of the other indications are that their fan base is eroding and is being propped up by some big money long term donor support. Otherwise they may have to bleed the same turnips if they want to increase their revenue. Next generation doesn't really care about UNC or even going there. They have a model they can't continue...an elitist model that erodes their numbers (by taking less folks from NC in undergrad and grad), admission standards their athletes will be unable to attain and its all under the guise that they are somehow better. In reality they just had more money and more control. Its model is unsustainable if other programs within NC gain high level support....and its painted itself in a corner because it doesn't want to grow to 35 or 40K....like an Ohio State.

UNC will have less and less control going forward...the control over the media, the state legislature, the Board of governors...its eroding. The gig is up, its not 1985 anymore. The ACC is struggling to be 4th in terms of revenue generated by the conference, it used to be 1st. Its destined for the B1G because fans of schools like FSU, Clemson and NC State are pissed at the John Swofford (UNC) led ACC...they want out from under their hand.
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40%, hello big 10.
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You guys are hilarious...UNC -->National Brand and State Flagship

ECU is a regional brand and Appy State not even that.
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(04-16-2013 12:26 AM)rutgers4life Wrote:  
(04-16-2013 12:17 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  If Louisville can get their revenue up to nearly $90,000,000 in the Big East then UNC can EASILY do this in the ACC. As much as I hate to admit it UNC's alumni base has a crap load of money at their disposal.

If they relocate, then they relocate but they don't have to have the B1G or SEC to generate this kind of money. I can't believe anybody on this thread would think otherwise.

"easily". Louisville is a very rare case with 1) one of the best AD's in the country 2) athletic focus/alumni engagement on the rise that hadn't previously been over-hit 3) specific fundraising goals 4) winning tradition 5) clean programs 6) accepted into ACC

Of course, UNC COULD change gears and be on the positive in 5-6 years with drastic improvements and wins. But, they could also "easily" accomplish that the moment they accept an invite. If you can get $1000 for saying hello to a friend, versus raising a $1000 by asking 1000 friends... what route are you going to take?

But to imply 'easily'... is to naively believe that the absolute perfect organizational situation will magically appear at UNC. There is FAR more data from schools that have not been able to succeed, who are just as promising, than ones that have (Louisville).

And Syracuse has revenues which blow Rutgers out of the water...it doesn't extort money from a state or students to fund an athletic department pyramid scheme.

As a private school in the Big East it (Cuse) was doing large revenue numbers and it will get much better in the ACC. UNC has 20k+ BB fans and 50k+ FB fans it can do fine. UNC culturally is not the B1G.
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Maybe i missed something, but when has UNC started hurting for students, alumni support etc, I mean alumni & boosters have committed over 170 million to athletic facilities alone in the last 5 years. and for what it's worth, Bubba has mentioned increasing revenue since he was hired in late 2011 but has spent most of his first year & a half on more pressing issues. He's mentioned modernizing the Dean Dome & continued investments in our digital assets as some of the ways we can increase revenue
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(04-16-2013 07:44 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-16-2013 12:26 AM)rutgers4life Wrote:  
(04-16-2013 12:17 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  If Louisville can get their revenue up to nearly $90,000,000 in the Big East then UNC can EASILY do this in the ACC. As much as I hate to admit it UNC's alumni base has a crap load of money at their disposal.

If they relocate, then they relocate but they don't have to have the B1G or SEC to generate this kind of money. I can't believe anybody on this thread would think otherwise.

"easily". Louisville is a very rare case with 1) one of the best AD's in the country 2) athletic focus/alumni engagement on the rise that hadn't previously been over-hit 3) specific fundraising goals 4) winning tradition 5) clean programs 6) accepted into ACC

Of course, UNC COULD change gears and be on the positive in 5-6 years with drastic improvements and wins. But, they could also "easily" accomplish that the moment they accept an invite. If you can get $1000 for saying hello to a friend, versus raising a $1000 by asking 1000 friends... what route are you going to take?

But to imply 'easily'... is to naively believe that the absolute perfect organizational situation will magically appear at UNC. There is FAR more data from schools that have not been able to succeed, who are just as promising, than ones that have (Louisville).

And Syracuse has revenues which blow Rutgers out of the water...it doesn't extort money from a state or students to fund an athletic department pyramid scheme.

As a private school in the Big East it (Cuse) was doing large revenue numbers and it will get much better in the ACC. UNC has 20k+ BB fans and 50k+ FB fans it can do fine. UNC culturally is not the B1G.

Three words: "Raise Ticket Prices."

Three more words: "Build Premium Seating."

With all the talk on this board about TV revenue, people sometimes forget that more revenue comes from ticket sales than anything else, and many colleges have been reluctant to put major league prices on their product. Now is not the time to be shy.
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(04-16-2013 07:11 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  40%, hello big 10.

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(04-15-2013 10:44 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Just for giggles this is how it could happen:

7-8 million football ticket sales (last year was 13k below capacity on average)
1-2 million basketball ticket sales (last year was 2k below capacity on average)
12-15 million conference distributions (new media deal, bowl payouts, playoff money, NCAA credits, etc)
7-10 million donations (Need donors to step up)

That's anywhere between 27-35 mill in additional revenue. Absolutely doable.

Honestly, I think the driving force behind these comments is Tom Jurich of Louisville. Louisville revenues are almost 10 mil more than UNC and they were in the Big East which has a much smaller media rights deal. You start peeling back the onion and you start noticing how they made their money without a Big TV contract. Their first year in the ACC, they are going to move past 100 mil in total revenue. They are almost 90 mil now.

Yep the truth is UNC is underachieving in terms of where they should be financially. With all the advantages and massive amounts of rich alumni you have there's really little reason you shouldn't have 100 million in revenue. There's also little reason you shouldn't be filling your football stadium at a much higher rate as well with a conference full of rivals and games where visiting fans can come easily.
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RE: UNC AD wants to boost athletic revenue by 40%!
UNC (as much as I detest them) are not like your other lowly simple minded schools. They have resources you know not of and they are not going to get on their knees at the pig trough and beg for the crumbs like other schools have done. I personally wish they were out of the ACC but it ain't gonna happen. There are no more water front lots and they are not going to give up their lake front mansion for a bigger mansion 3 blocks off the water.
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RE: UNC AD wants to boost athletic revenue by 40%!
(04-16-2013 08:07 AM)Rabonchild Wrote:  UNC (as much as I detest them) are not like your other lowly simple minded schools. They have resources you know not of and they are not going to get on their knees at the pig trough and beg for the crumbs like other schools have done. I personally wish they were out of the ACC but it ain't gonna happen. There are no more water front lots and they are not going to give up their lake front mansion for a bigger mansion 3 blocks off the water.

Yeah they are basically the Texas of the ACC. They created the league and run the league through their puppet Swofford and I do not see them giving that up. If UNC ever leaves the ACC it means there is about to be a Big East level exodus.
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