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(04-14-2013 03:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-14-2013 02:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  [JML, Those "fake soldiers" as you call them, receive military commissions. Maybe you prefer college students that use funnels to drink whiskey and act like 10 year olds. The more you rant, the sillier you sound. I won't bash your school. It was my favorite Texas university when I lived in Texas, but I am sure they are cringing listening to you.

Correction. Most of the A&M Corps of Cadets do not receive commissions. Its basically just a military style fraternity. And there are lots of incidents of Corps members acting like 10 year olds, the most infamous being when the Corps member pulled a sword on an SMU cheerleader whose cartwheel landed on the "sacred" field.
There is going to be a day when the state of Texas gets a life, and when it does, the entire college football world is going to come crashing down. Stupidity like that can only exist when there is absolutely nothing else to do.
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(04-14-2013 03:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-14-2013 02:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  [JML, Those "fake soldiers" as you call them, receive military commissions. Maybe you prefer college students that use funnels to drink whiskey and act like 10 year olds. The more you rant, the sillier you sound. I won't bash your school. It was my favorite Texas university when I lived in Texas, but I am sure they are cringing listening to you.

Correction. Most of the A&M Corps of Cadets do not receive commissions. Its basically just a military style fraternity. And there are lots of incidents of Corps members acting like 10 year olds, the most infamous being when the Corps member pulled a sword on an SMU cheerleader whose cartwheel landed on the "sacred" field.

This is half right.

There are 2 tracks in the Corps: D&C and Commission

A little more than half of the Corps are in a commission track and will become officers in one of the 4 Military branches.

Even with only half the Corps choosing commission path, A&M produces more military officers than any other school outside the Service Academies.

The other part is unfortunately true in that the non-commissioning branch of the Corps, the D&C (Drill and Ceremony) cadets are basically a frat in uniform and have been responsible for a lot of embarrassing incidents. While that doesn't excuse it, lets also be fair and admit that pretty much all of us are aware of one or more of our fraternities having pulled a stupid stunt that made the front page of the student newspaper.

I've always wished the the Corps would either get rid of D&C or at least not let them wear the uniform.
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Wow, see I didn't even know there was a difference. I attribute that directly to the two different groups wearing the same uniform. There should be Some form of recognizable difference between the two different distinctions of Cadet. It should be made more obvious to tell the difference between those who are actually looking at a path of Military Service vs those who are just using it as some kind of Fraternity organization to brag about later in company meetings.
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There is a distinction but you have to be familiar enough with it to catch it (most people not used to looking at uniforms all day long aren't)

Commission Cadets wear the patch of their ROTC unit on one shoulder while D&C cadets only wear the Corps of Cadets patch on both shoulders.

Also, its not even all D&C cadets.

Most D&C cadets are in the Corps because they want to be in the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band and by tradition, to be in the band, you have to be in the Corps.

But it does leave a remaining amount who, as you said, just want to be able to say they were in the Corps later on in life.

They might be a minority but almost every negative thing that happens tends to be traced back to one of them.

Frankly, if I were the commandant, I would disallow Corps Membership for anyone who wasn't either going contract or in the band. It would end a lot of issues.
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They should have a different color uniform completely.
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(04-14-2013 06:30 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  There is a distinction but you have to be familiar enough with it to catch it (most people not used to looking at uniforms all day long aren't)

Commission Cadets wear the patch of their ROTC unit on one shoulder while D&C cadets only wear the Corps of Cadets patch on both shoulders.

Also, its not even all D&C cadets.

Most D&C cadets are in the Corps because they want to be in the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band and by tradition, to be in the band, you have to be in the Corps.

But it does leave a remaining amount who, as you said, just want to be able to say they were in the Corps later on in life.

They might be a minority but almost every negative thing that happens tends to be traced back to one of them.

Frankly, if I were the commandant, I would disallow Corps Membership for anyone who wasn't either going contract or in the band. It would end a lot of issues.
Thanks for the info. I knew they had a huge ROTC Unit. I didn't know about the other half. At any rate, I am proud of them.
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Thanks Medic,

Rivals do what rivals always do, emphasize negatives and ignore positives.

Are there a few bad apples wearing Corps uniforms? Of course, but if you think that's not true of the real military as well, see your local JAG to set you straight.

But despite them, the fact remains that every year A&M supplies this country with many quality young men and women for every branch of the service, more than anyone else but the Academies, and I will always be proud of them as well.
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jml2010, please keep it civil from here on. Desist with the personal attacks and slurs of people's university and fanbase. Please present logical arguments, or just keep quiet. Otherwise your ability to post in the CR forum could be revoked without warning!!!

As for the SECN, I doubt there will be carraige problems in Texas. The SEC has the best football teams, and Texas is football crazy. It makes sense to all cable companies to pick it up, since it will be watched, whether they are A&M fans or not. Many non-A&M fans will watch A&M games, rooting for the other team. So either way, it will be seen...
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(04-12-2013 12:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I've thought 9 games is inevitable if we are going to keep East/West permanent rivalries but still get to play opponents from the other division frequently.

6 Division games
1 Permanent Opposite Division Opponent
2 Rotating Opposite Division opponents.

If it were me, I'd do the 2 rotating as Indian Run style. IOW you play 2 opponents and then instead of immeadietly returning the game, you move on to the next 2 and then the next until you come around to the first pair and switch venue.

That way every player and fan can have a game against every team in the conference in 3 years.

With you 100% on this
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(04-15-2013 10:27 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 12:04 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I've thought 9 games is inevitable if we are going to keep East/West permanent rivalries but still get to play opponents from the other division frequently.

6 Division games
1 Permanent Opposite Division Opponent
2 Rotating Opposite Division opponents.

If it were me, I'd do the 2 rotating as Indian Run style. IOW you play 2 opponents and then instead of immeadietly returning the game, you move on to the next 2 and then the next until you come around to the first pair and switch venue.

That way every player and fan can have a game against every team in the conference in 3 years.

With you 100% on this

Yup. I think that's the best way to do it.
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Due to the tragedy in Boston, ESPN and the SEC are postponing the Tursday announcement of SECN.

Again, all our thoughts and prayers from Aggieland are with the victims and their families.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...in-boston/
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Example of mis-informed WVU board:

Point 1:
ESPN/Raycom own the rights correct? That means ACC does not own them to sell to ESPN.

A conf network is nothing special. It is just one method of selling rights to the market - the method that many feel is the best way to monetize a portion of the rights for the time being (though that'll change). It still fundamentally means you have X rights and can sell them for Y dollars regardless if it's this method or that.

The fact that the rights are already owned by ESPN means ACC gets nothing. ESPN can launch a channel called the ACC network if they want and ACC isn't really in a position to get much of anything out of it.


So what did ESPN just do with SEC tier 3 rights?
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(04-16-2013 09:15 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Example of mis-informed WVU board:

Point 1:
ESPN/Raycom own the rights correct? That means ACC does not own them to sell to ESPN.

A conf network is nothing special. It is just one method of selling rights to the market - the method that many feel is the best way to monetize a portion of the rights for the time being (though that'll change). It still fundamentally means you have X rights and can sell them for Y dollars regardless if it's this method or that.

The fact that the rights are already owned by ESPN means ACC gets nothing. ESPN can launch a channel called the ACC network if they want and ACC isn't really in a position to get much of anything out of it.


So what did ESPN just do with SEC tier 3 rights?
The new SECN is taking the place of the Tier 3 channel contracts if am correct. Right now Tier 3 is just a group of individually contracted TV stations which carry one of two selected SEC games each week. I guess those contracts will soon be expiring.
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(04-16-2013 09:15 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Example of mis-informed WVU board:

Point 1:
ESPN/Raycom own the rights correct? That means ACC does not own them to sell to ESPN.

A conf network is nothing special. It is just one method of selling rights to the market - the method that many feel is the best way to monetize a portion of the rights for the time being (though that'll change). It still fundamentally means you have X rights and can sell them for Y dollars regardless if it's this method or that.

The fact that the rights are already owned by ESPN means ACC gets nothing. ESPN can launch a channel called the ACC network if they want and ACC isn't really in a position to get much of anything out of it.


So what did ESPN just do with SEC tier 3 rights?
The entire WVU board isn't that stupid. It's just a few people, and they're getting to be a royal pain. Most WVU fans wish they'd shut the hell up, especially since they're the most vocal ones around Morgantown. All they do is make WVU look silly...
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