(04-10-2013 03:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 01:29 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  PSU v Pitt is hatred at the very least.

(04-10-2013 03:31 PM)7fielder Wrote:  Most PSU fans would prefer not play Pitt at all... that sort of rivalry is more fun to them.

So, are you saying Penn State fans hate Pittsburgh so much that they don't want to play you?

Sorta... they hate us but they like to see it more like "they look down on us". So, their fans feel they having nothing to gain by playing us, if they win it is no big deal but if they lose it ruins their chance at a national championship (their words). So, their fans LOVE telling us over and over that the rivalry means everything to Pitt and nothing to Penn State.

They say their rivals are Ohio State and Michigan now...

If Penn State loses to Pitt it "ruins their chance at a national championship (their words)".

LOL.

Oh I agree... I think the world has learned over the last year what we've known for years... they are a dulusional bunch up there!

Here's a question you can ask PSU fans (or any Big Ten fan in general)...
How many B1G teams not named Ohio State have played for the championship during the 15 years of the BCS?

(answer: zero, unless you count Nebraska back when they were Big XII).

Current Big Ten: 4
Ohio State has played in 3
Nebraska - 1

Current ACC: 6
Florida State - 3
Miami - 2
Va Tech - 1

(04-10-2013 09:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here's a question you can ask PSU fans (or any Big Ten fan in general)...
How many B1G teams not named Ohio State have played for the championship during the 15 years of the BCS?

ANSWER:
GENERIC B1G FAN: "There's a world-wide conspiracy against us because we are so awesome, and the ACC will be destroyed next year anyway...I saw it on the WVU rivals forum."
PSU FAN: "There's a world-wide conspiracy against us because we are so awesome, and the ACC will be destroyed next year anyway...I saw it on the WVU rivals forum. Oh yeah, I almost forgot: Pitt [stinks]* and Joe Pa was a saint."

*Edited to be more family friendly.

ACC 16 ... 4 pods of 4 where the pods are geographically defined.

ACC Coastal North
North Carolina
Duke
Wake Forest
NC State

ACC Coastal South
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Miami
Florida State

ACC Atlantic North
Syracuse
Boston College
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh

ACC Atlantic South
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati / Penn State

+3 I like that georgia_tech_swagger

I like that line up as well. Lets hope something of this nature can take place. Obviously the big hurdle isn't adding Cincinnati or Penn State it's getting Notre Dame to come on as a full member. Even though I still like the make up of that conference line up. Good work.

(04-11-2013 06:44 AM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  I like that line up as well. Lets hope something of this nature can take place. Obviously the big hurdle isn't adding Cincinnati or Penn State it's getting Notre Dame to come on as a full member. Even though I still like the make up of that conference line up. Good work.

To be fair, you did say or UC, and Cinci has been sending everyone xmas cards, so technically you are right. however, lumping PSU in with UC in a way that implies that they are of comperably obtainable is a little much. I think getting ND might be easier than PSU. ND might just transition over the next 20 years or so. Adding [/i]PSU would be a battle.

IF IF IF IF PSU ever left, imagine the B1G with their island of misfit athletic programs Rutgers and Maryland

(04-11-2013 07:53 AM)westmc9th Wrote:  IF IF IF IF PSU ever left, imagine the B1G with their island of misfit athletic programs Rutgers and Maryland

You have no idea how hard I would laugh.........for SO MANY reasons.

My top expansion targets would be:

1-South Carolina
2-Vanderbilt


3-Cincinnati

For me it has to be Cincy, we (Louisville) have a long history, they are an easy two hour drive away road game, they are competitive and have a history of being so.. They would have natural regional rivalries with Pitt, and Va Tech too, I think they would cement the whole Ohio river valley. I will miss them greatly if they are not added in the next round. Being a former BE team they have history with Notre Dame, Louisville, Pitt, and Syracuse, and nobody hates them like many hate UConn.

(04-11-2013 08:51 AM)XLance Wrote:  My top expansion targets would be:

1-South Carolina
2-Vanderbilt


3-Cincinnati

I'll give you this much, XLance, you ARE consistent.

Actually, I would have to agree that in a limitless universe I would be happy to take S Carolina back into the ACC. There's a lot of history with other ACC teams (even Va Tech).

No interest whatsoever in Vanderbilt, however. If I was picking another SEC team (assuming it was possible), I'd choose Georgia first, Florida second. I suspect UGA would have a negative impact on ACC academics, but there is a lot of athletic history there.

So, in my dream, I guess for the Southern teams we'd get
1. S Carolina
2. Georgia

AND for the Northern teams, we'd get
1. Notre Dame
2. Penn State

Then I woke up, and realized the only teams we are ever likely to add are
possibly Notre Dame (someday)
Cincinnati
Temple
Connecticut

As actual targets I would assume in no particular order you would have to look at Cincinnati, Vandy ( who I would like to see added ) , Tennessee ( wish list for it doesn't hurt to ask ), UConn, possibly guage the intrest in South Carolina. Now if you wanted to I guess West Virginia could be thrown a bone here, but I am sure they would decline due to all that wealth they have come into as being the ***** of the Big12.

Why does everyone thing that Vandy is a possibility? in the 70's maybe, but there is no way they are going to give up their gravy train. USCarolina isn't going to happen either.

(04-11-2013 09:21 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  Why does everyone thing that Vandy is a possibility? in the 70's maybe, but there is no way they are going to give up their gravy train. USCarolina isn't going to happen either.

Ah, the voice of reason...

(04-10-2013 10:10 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  ACC 16 ... 4 pods of 4 where the pods are geographically defined.

ACC Coastal North
North Carolina
Duke
Wake Forest
NC State

ACC Coastal South
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Miami
Florida State

ACC Atlantic North
Syracuse
Boston College
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh

ACC Atlantic South
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati / Penn State

And B1G do the same for their 16 teams. Then B1G-ACC forms a super conference like NFL, 32 teams into 2 leagues, 8 pods.

I like GTS' pod arrangement.

My number 1 target would be Maryland.

(04-11-2013 09:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-11-2013 09:21 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  Why does everyone thing that Vandy is a possibility? in the 70's maybe, but there is no way they are going to give up their gravy train. USCarolina isn't going to happen either.

Ah, the voice of reason...

I agree with both you. Can't tell you how many times I've rolled my eyes reading the last page of this thread?