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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 08:29 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 08:08 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  I do not begrudge anyone from doing better with their lives or schools in this area. I run an office where people leave to further their careers with more education........I know for a fact that by doing this that they are making their lives better and their childrens lives so I encourage them and wish them well......and I still have an association with almost everyone whom has ever worked for me in the past 20 years.

My point is this....going to CUSA "MAY" be better in the long run but those TV contracts are going to change.....IF folks in the Belt had stuck together and I include WKU and MTSU in this and not the others with the addition of Georgia Southern and App State and Texas State guess what we in all likely hood would have passed conference USA and gained with that exposure a familiarity by fans across the country.....

Many folks headed or wanting to be in CUSA say it is because of perception of what CUSA and Belt are to others not in those conferences.....NOT TO GOOD FOR EITHER....and the truth is that perception is built on what happens on the field.....e.g. Boise State, and Appy State and a win over Michigan a few years ago along with their success...just to mention two.....

I doubt Troy will get an invite to CUSA and we will live with that, but should a team get an invite and turn it down....does another take its place.....The Belt had the potential to actually put CUSA under but greed masquerading as this is the best for us......for NOW maybe but in the long run unlike my former empolyees are not certainly improving themselves for the long run....but I will not tell you that YOU ARE NOT EITHER.....It is the bird in the hand is worth two in the bush scenario....Good luck if you go....but remember after all this pans out you guys are not getting a big TV contract being a Sun Belt conference of another name when you could have had a really good Sun Belt conference by THAT name.


If, if, if. Yea if the two Florida schools, UNT, and Middle had not left things could have been a lot different. They did and and WKU a regular basketball power and good at other things gone this is not your daddy's Sunbelt.

I actually Like UL and ASU for that matter and love being in the league with them.....Sure IF IF IF....I really am only saying that the JUMP is not only a leap of faith....that most of us IF (of course) stuck together would have had a much better opportunity to have a conference that would have PASSED CUSA in football and that is the biggey....everything follows in time.....But as far as dissing you guys.....Naw...good luck and I hope it turns out for all of you.....cause to hope it does not is self serving.....and after all that is the attitude that has gotten everyone in this mess..........YES I know naive but I will cheer for Troy no matter who they play.
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:22 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:13 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Cajuns are like the guy at work that never gets promoted and blames everyone but himself. Meanwhile everybody that works with him thinks those that were promoted had much more to offer. Those that work with him also think you are not nearly good as you think and all the constant whining about not getting promoted is annoying. Do a better job, show up on time, dress a little better and maybe that will help overcome your faults that are inherent in you.

You have no frame of reference for what they are going through and therefore have no idea what you are talking about.

I understand they have been in FBS a long time and are frustrated. But at the end of the day they are in a small market and have a small budget. You just have to do better in other areas to overcome their inherent weaknesses.
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:04 AM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  It's a cycle that repeats itself. UNT and FIU got a lot of negative comments from posters here in the first wave of recent movement. Different types of "freaking out" or hate, but hatred nonetheless. MTSU and even FAU got some directed towards them, and some WKU fans have felt it as well. I guess UL's AD comments are seen by the nationalists as disrespectful, therefore the reactions.

Funny you should recognize the cycle but I guess after seeing it so many times, it starts to become very clear. There's a classic psychological phenomenon at work here during each wave of realignment. You can easily see what stage each of the posters is in:

First - denial as to what is happening (e.g. we're going to be better off with out you, we don't need you guys anyways, etc.)

Second - they get angry as reality and the pain reemerges

Third - the next stage is trying to bargain your way out of this new reality

Forth - you become depressed and worry about how to carry on now that everything has changed

Finally - acceptance of the new reality and learning to live with it

It's kind of interesting to see where each of the posters is. 07-coffee3
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:40 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:04 AM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  It's a cycle that repeats itself. UNT and FIU got a lot of negative comments from posters here in the first wave of recent movement. Different types of "freaking out" or hate, but hatred nonetheless. MTSU and even FAU got some directed towards them, and some WKU fans have felt it as well. I guess UL's AD comments are seen by the nationalists as disrespectful, therefore the reactions.

Funny you should recognize the cycle but I guess after seeing it so many times, it starts to become very clear. There's a classic psychological phenomenon at work here during each wave of realignment. You can easily see what stage each of the posters is in:

First - denial as to what is happening (e.g. we're going to be better off with out you, we don't need you guys anyways, etc.)

Second - they get angry as reality and the pain reemerges

Third - the next stage is trying to bargain your way out of this new reality

Forth - you become depressed and worry about how to carry on now that everything has changed


Finally - acceptance of the new reality and learning to live with it

It's kind of interesting to see where each of the posters is. 07-coffee3

I'm somewhere between three and four right now. It appears that most UL posters are still at number two.
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HAHAHA!! 5 pages LMFAO!

One thing I knew for certain was that most of the stAte guys would have our backs. I could see that from the first few posts. I wish you guys well and hope we stay connected one way or the other.

I got about 2 pages in....I promise I didn't sift through the rest of the foolishness spewed...I'll let you toothless, sister humping hicks have at it.

Maybe, just maybe you clowns, with your idiotic theories and clownish remarks can extend this **** out to 10 pages... then you can go **** yourselves.

I couldn't care less.

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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:28 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 08:29 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 08:08 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote:  I do not begrudge anyone from doing better with their lives or schools in this area. I run an office where people leave to further their careers with more education........I know for a fact that by doing this that they are making their lives better and their childrens lives so I encourage them and wish them well......and I still have an association with almost everyone whom has ever worked for me in the past 20 years.

My point is this....going to CUSA "MAY" be better in the long run but those TV contracts are going to change.....IF folks in the Belt had stuck together and I include WKU and MTSU in this and not the others with the addition of Georgia Southern and App State and Texas State guess what we in all likely hood would have passed conference USA and gained with that exposure a familiarity by fans across the country.....

Many folks headed or wanting to be in CUSA say it is because of perception of what CUSA and Belt are to others not in those conferences.....NOT TO GOOD FOR EITHER....and the truth is that perception is built on what happens on the field.....e.g. Boise State, and Appy State and a win over Michigan a few years ago along with their success...just to mention two.....

I doubt Troy will get an invite to CUSA and we will live with that, but should a team get an invite and turn it down....does another take its place.....The Belt had the potential to actually put CUSA under but greed masquerading as this is the best for us......for NOW maybe but in the long run unlike my former empolyees are not certainly improving themselves for the long run....but I will not tell you that YOU ARE NOT EITHER.....It is the bird in the hand is worth two in the bush scenario....Good luck if you go....but remember after all this pans out you guys are not getting a big TV contract being a Sun Belt conference of another name when you could have had a really good Sun Belt conference by THAT name.


If, if, if. Yea if the two Florida schools, UNT, and Middle had not left things could have been a lot different. They did and and WKU a regular basketball power and good at other things gone this is not your daddy's Sunbelt.

I actually Like UL and ASU for that matter and love being in the league with them.....Sure IF IF IF....I really am only saying that the JUMP is not only a leap of faith....that most of us IF (of course) stuck together would have had a much better opportunity to have a conference that would have PASSED CUSA in football and that is the biggey....everything follows in time.....But as far as dissing you guys.....Naw...good luck and I hope it turns out for all of you.....cause to hope it does not is self serving.....and after all that is the attitude that has gotten everyone in this mess..........YES I know naive but I will cheer for Troy no matter who they play.
We pretty much fe el the same way. I enjoy the rivalry with Troy, stAte, and if it wasn't for the name debate even ULM.

Cajun fans welcome App State, GSU, Texas St, NMSU, but GaSo and Idaho are two programs we do not want to be associated with.
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:40 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:04 AM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  It's a cycle that repeats itself. UNT and FIU got a lot of negative comments from posters here in the first wave of recent movement. Different types of "freaking out" or hate, but hatred nonetheless. MTSU and even FAU got some directed towards them, and some WKU fans have felt it as well. I guess UL's AD comments are seen by the nationalists as disrespectful, therefore the reactions.

Funny you should recognize the cycle but I guess after seeing it so many times, it starts to become very clear. There's a classic psychological phenomenon at work here during each wave of realignment. You can easily see what stage each of the posters is in:

First - denial as to what is happening (e.g. we're going to be better off with out you, we don't need you guys anyways, etc.)

Second - they get angry as reality and the pain reemerges

Third - the next stage is trying to bargain your way out of this new reality

Forth - you become depressed and worry about how to carry on now that everything has changed

Finally - acceptance of the new reality and learning to live with it

It's kind of interesting to see where each of the posters is. 07-coffee3

nice pick up
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An entire thread bitching about bitching. Pure awesomeness.
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(04-10-2013 09:48 AM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 09:19 AM)swampbear Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 09:08 AM)troy4ever Wrote:  I never said it was Cajun fans starting threads. Boy you guys like to take something and run with it don't you.

I'm not even gonna respond. I have plenty of things I could respond with...but I know I'd just be wasting my time on those of you that do not understand rationale. You've made up your mind and I've made up mine. Let it be at that.

Unfortunately, everyones mind was made up the minute UNT and FIU let the door hit them in the ass....once that happened there was no sticking together. If you go back and check the several interviews by our AD you will find nothing but love for the belt. You will even find a statement by Farmer after the defections of MTSU and FAU along the lines of surprise that the 2 Universities left after all had agreed to stick together. The fact is, if the Belt as constructed 2 years ago had stuck together and added a TXST, Georgia Southern and Appalachian ST this would now be a very powerful mid major Conference. We did not start this but now everyone will have to play. The silliest part is everyone "moving up" on the gang of 5 level will end up paying big money to go where they were in the first place....all of this is nuts...

I think most of us were ok after FIU and North Texas left, because we felt that they were replaceable. Even FAU leaving wasn't a big deal but after Middle left, then the freak-out began which led to WKU soliciting prostitution of their school. I honestly don't know if this could have been avoided, because if the MUTS had not accepted the invite then WKU, stAte or UL would have.

So if we "solicited prostitution," does that make C-USA a bunch of hookers? And does that mean you're the spouse left home to take care of the kids?

When the thunder rolls....
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(04-10-2013 08:42 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  So what's a Cajun fan to do when a thread is started about us, should we sit idly by? What if posters who do not like us (Mathenis, Bubba Bexley, BRTranspant) are running a smear campaign. Aren't we allowed to respond?

I don't dislike University of Louisiana-Lafayette.

I just don't think you're a good fit for Conference-USA. No where have I said I dislike ULL.
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
(04-10-2013 10:28 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:22 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:13 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Cajuns are like the guy at work that never gets promoted and blames everyone but himself. Meanwhile everybody that works with him thinks those that were promoted had much more to offer. Those that work with him also think you are not nearly good as you think and all the constant whining about not getting promoted is annoying. Do a better job, show up on time, dress a little better and maybe that will help overcome your faults that are inherent in you.

You have no frame of reference for what they are going through and therefore have no idea what you are talking about.

I understand they have been in FBS a long time and are frustrated. But at the end of the day they are in a small market and have a small budget. You just have to do better in other areas to overcome their inherent weaknesses.

The Lafayette market is much larger then Stateboro friend and please don't hand me the Atlanta crap because you no more own that market than UL owns Baton Rouge.
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(04-10-2013 10:13 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Cajuns are like the guy at work that never gets promoted and blames everyone but himself. Meanwhile everybody that works with him thinks those that were promoted had much more to offer. Those that work with him also think you are not nearly good as you think and all the constant whining about not getting promoted is annoying. Do a better job, show up on time, dress a little better and maybe that will help overcome your faults that are inherent in you.

Eagle fans are like the teenager that brags about the size of his *****, but has yet to find a chick in high school that is willing to give him a shot. The majority of his time is spent corroding the pages of his dad’s Playboy collection under his bed. Do yourselves a favor and actually tag a chick before bragging about the size of your *****.
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(04-10-2013 01:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 08:42 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  So what's a Cajun fan to do when a thread is started about us, should we sit idly by? What if posters who do not like us (Mathenis, Bubba Bexley, BRTranspant) are running a smear campaign. Aren't we allowed to respond?

I don't dislike University of Louisiana-Lafayette.

I just don't think you're a good fit for Conference-USA. No where have I said I dislike ULL.

Toothless, what is your definition of "good fit?"

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(04-10-2013 01:31 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:57 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  We pretty much feel the same way. I enjoy the rivalry with Troy, stAte, and if it wasn't for the name debate even ULM.

Cajun fans welcome App State, GSU, Texas St, NMSU, but GaSo and Idaho are two programs we do not want to be associated with.

Eagle fans are like the teenager that brags about the size of his *****, but has yet to find a chick in high school that is willing to give him a shot. The majority of his time is spent corroding the pages of his dad’s Playboy collection under his bed. Do yourselves a favor and actually tag a chick before bragging about the size of your *****.

It's that attitude from the beginning, before anyone was posting over here, that makes me hope UL-Lafayette stays in the belt long enough to get to play Ga Southern. UL-L has accomplished dick in football - ever.

17 seasons with 7+ wins in 102 years and only 3 in the last 20!

Who the F%&K is UL-L? I guess we're the teenager who has already seen the Cajuns 5" ***k and know that ours is already bigger with more growth to come.

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(04-10-2013 02:22 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 01:31 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:57 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  We pretty much feel the same way. I enjoy the rivalry with Troy, stAte, and if it wasn't for the name debate even ULM.

Cajun fans welcome App State, GSU, Texas St, NMSU, but GaSo and Idaho are two programs we do not want to be associated with.

Eagle fans are like the teenager that brags about the size of his *****, but has yet to find a chick in high school that is willing to give him a shot. The majority of his time is spent corroding the pages of his dad’s Playboy collection under his bed. Do yourselves a favor and actually tag a chick before bragging about the size of your *****.

It's that attitude from the beginning, before anyone was posting over here, that makes me hope UL-Lafayette stays in the belt long enough to get to play Ga Southern. UL-L has accomplished dick in football - ever.

17 seasons with 7+ wins in 102 years and only 3 in the last 20!

Who the F%&K is UL-L? I guess we're the teenager who has already seen the Cajuns 5" ***k and know that ours is already bigger with more growth to come.

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Never said our record was tremendous, but...

We have always been 1A.. You guys have always been 1AA and lower.. Big difference in the teams you play.

You really have a hard on for us if you went to cfbdatawarehouse and actually researched this.

Its almost as if this isnt the first time you have tried to persuade others that you are something you arent. "Wait, wait, look at us... look at our record...check out our vids from our blistering defeat at UA last year!!"

SSSSSnnnnnooooozerama...

I bet you even have that link in your favorites so you can insert into every football discussion..

HAHAHAHAHA!

Z
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(04-10-2013 01:48 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 01:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 08:42 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  So what's a Cajun fan to do when a thread is started about us, should we sit idly by? What if posters who do not like us (Mathenis, Bubba Bexley, BRTranspant) are running a smear campaign. Aren't we allowed to respond?

I don't dislike University of Louisiana-Lafayette.

I just don't think you're a good fit for Conference-USA. No where have I said I dislike ULL.

Toothless, what is your definition of "good fit?"

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You bitterness is amusing.

I'll remember that while we're playing C-USA ball.
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Dang, I worked all day and didn't bother visiting here and I missed this thread. That's what I get for working.....

Seriously though, I have not heard or read anything from WKU fans about not liking UL. In fact, most, if not all have tremendous respect for UL and their accomplishments/potential. Mathenis said he didnt' think ya'll would be a good fit for CUSA. I'm sure he has his reasons but personally, I loved the UL basketball rivalry back in the day, the football rivalry that was beginning to spin up between WKU and UL and no one can say anything bad about the gameday atmosphere at a UL football game. I don't have a clue what the future holds but I'm positive UL will be successful regardless of the conference.
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(04-10-2013 03:14 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 02:22 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 01:31 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:57 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  We pretty much feel the same way. I enjoy the rivalry with Troy, stAte, and if it wasn't for the name debate even ULM.

Cajun fans welcome App State, GSU, Texas St, NMSU, but GaSo and Idaho are two programs we do not want to be associated with.

Eagle fans are like the teenager that brags about the size of his *****, but has yet to find a chick in high school that is willing to give him a shot. The majority of his time is spent corroding the pages of his dad’s Playboy collection under his bed. Do yourselves a favor and actually tag a chick before bragging about the size of your *****.

It's that attitude from the beginning, before anyone was posting over here, that makes me hope UL-Lafayette stays in the belt long enough to get to play Ga Southern. UL-L has accomplished dick in football - ever.

17 seasons with 7+ wins in 102 years and only 3 in the last 20!

Who the F%&K is UL-L? I guess we're the teenager who has already seen the Cajuns 5" ***k and know that ours is already bigger with more growth to come.

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Never said our record was tremendous, but...

We have always been 1A.. You guys have always been 1AA and lower.. Big difference in the teams you play.

You really have a hard on for us if you went to cfbdatawarehouse and actually researched this.

Its almost as if this isnt the first time you have tried to persuade others that you are something you arent. "Wait, wait, look at us... look at our record...check out our vids from our blistering defeat at UA last year!!"

SSSSSnnnnnooooozerama...

I bet you even have that link in your favorites so you can insert into every football discussion..

HAHAHAHAHA!

Z

Actually, that's the difference between us. I KNOW who Georgia Southern is and the challenges we face moving to FBS. UL-L fans are under some delusion that 2 good seasons and always being 1A makes you too good to associate with us.

If you think lower tier FBS is so much better on the field than top tier FCS, you're that much more delusional. Ask any AD of any FBS school ranked below 60 if they want to play Montana, ND St, Delaware, App St, Ga Southern, etc.

HELL NO! will be the answer just like it was from Scott Farmer when our former AD tried to get a game. Why take the risk of getting your ass kicked by a" lowly" FCS school?

UL-L is the school I look most forward to playing.
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(04-10-2013 03:14 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 02:22 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 01:31 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 10:57 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  We pretty much feel the same way. I enjoy the rivalry with Troy, stAte, and if it wasn't for the name debate even ULM.

Cajun fans welcome App State, GSU, Texas St, NMSU, but GaSo and Idaho are two programs we do not want to be associated with.

Eagle fans are like the teenager that brags about the size of his *****, but has yet to find a chick in high school that is willing to give him a shot. The majority of his time is spent corroding the pages of his dad’s Playboy collection under his bed. Do yourselves a favor and actually tag a chick before bragging about the size of your *****.

It's that attitude from the beginning, before anyone was posting over here, that makes me hope UL-Lafayette stays in the belt long enough to get to play Ga Southern. UL-L has accomplished dick in football - ever.

17 seasons with 7+ wins in 102 years and only 3 in the last 20!

Who the F%&K is UL-L? I guess we're the teenager who has already seen the Cajuns 5" ***k and know that ours is already bigger with more growth to come.

All-Time Team Rankings CF Data Warehouse

Never said our record was tremendous, but...

We have always been 1A.. You guys have always been 1AA and lower.. Big difference in the teams you play.

You really have a hard on for us if you went to cfbdatawarehouse and actually researched this.

Its almost as if this isnt the first time you have tried to persuade others that you are something you arent. "Wait, wait, look at us... look at our record...check out our vids from our blistering defeat at UA last year!!"

SSSSSnnnnnooooozerama...

I bet you even have that link in your favorites so you can insert into every football discussion..

HAHAHAHAHA!

Z

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590197

Cajuns trailed 44-0 at the half and gave up a school record 742 yards in a 65-24 blowout.

Meanwhile, we are doing this against a much better team. And we are supposed to bow to your greatness. Lol, you cannot be serious.

http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_st...--Southern
04-10-2013 07:32 PM
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RE: Why all the hatred towards UL??
I remember when we played McNeese State in 2009 they had some major vitrol fom Lafayette.

And they would like to let you know that in their only trip to Death Valley, they scored a touchdown, something you have never ever done there.
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