(04-09-2013 10:52 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:42 PM)Dracorex Wrote:   Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

we'll stay at 14

That's okay, I don't find uab that appealing either. The only reason we should accept a CUSA invite is for playing schools who are geographically closer to us. Tv payouts are a bonus. Besides the tx schools, CUSA isn't that much better than SBC for us. I'd rather go to MWC with better football programs and basketball.

Not trying to offend, but CUSA makes all the sense in the world for Texas State. Name one reason Texas State should NOT accept a CUSA invite.

(04-09-2013 11:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

ASU fans are preventing us from moving to another league? Who are you, Seminole Indian?

You clearly need to read our message board more. The one thing that every single one of us has in common is the given talent of talking out of rear ends.

Well except Arkstfan...he actually uses logic 9 times out of 10.

Ugh..please don't mention that name.

Lots of cross posting between CUSA and SBC lately.

(04-09-2013 11:25 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 11:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

ASU fans are preventing us from moving to another league? Who are you, Seminole Indian?

You clearly need to read our message board more. The one thing that every single one of us has in common is the given talent of talking out of rear ends.

Well except Arkstfan...he actually uses logic 9 times out of 10.

Ugh..please don't mention that name.

We feel the same way.

Where is he hiding anyway?

(04-09-2013 10:18 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

If UL and stAte stay together, we'll both be fine in either conference.

As for UL...MTSU did not have a real calm pre-invite period either and there were a few over-reactions over there and they are fine. I don't think CUSA cared that much.

As for us....we are not always the best at it, but most of our fans and admin make valiant attempts to reason things out. We present our case, we think its a good one, but its not our decision and there isn't a lot of sense in going fricking crazy. For the most part we are trying to prepare for one of two possible events without screwing either possibility up too much. If that's seen as bad mojo...so be it. It's who we are.

On your candidate list....I'd be pleased if CUSA took any two of those except TXST. The Sun Belt would be fine in that case. I think the UL/stAte pair covers more ground for CUSA than any of those...but not my decision.

Why not us... Texas is basically 5 states. ASU doesn't make sense in the fact that the school enrollment is only 13k and 16k system wide. Not to mention in a small market. TXST is in between Austin and San Antonio. The surrounding communities population excluding Austin and San Antonio exceed Jonesboro's population significantly. LaTech will end up being in direct competition with ULL so that might not work. Texas schools already compete with each other regardless of conference and there is an abundance of talent here. We out recruited both utsa and UNT while being in SBC, so it might help them in recruiting if they play us. I'll stop now, this is getting long.

(04-09-2013 11:32 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:18 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

If UL and stAte stay together, we'll both be fine in either conference.

As for UL...MTSU did not have a real calm pre-invite period either and there were a few over-reactions over there and they are fine. I don't think CUSA cared that much.

As for us....we are not always the best at it, but most of our fans and admin make valiant attempts to reason things out. We present our case, we think its a good one, but its not our decision and there isn't a lot of sense in going fricking crazy. For the most part we are trying to prepare for one of two possible events without screwing either possibility up too much. If that's seen as bad mojo...so be it. It's who we are.

On your candidate list....I'd be pleased if CUSA took any two of those except TXST. The Sun Belt would be fine in that case. I think the UL/stAte pair covers more ground for CUSA than any of those...but not my decision.

Why not us... Texas is basically 5 states. ASU doesn't make sense in the fact that the school enrollment is only 13k and 16k system wide. Not to mention in a small market. TXST is in between Austin and San Antonio. The surrounding communities population excluding Austin and San Antonio exceed Jonesboro's population significantly. LaTech will end up being in direct competition with ULL so that might not work. Texas schools already compete with each other regardless of conference and there is an abundance of talent here. We out recruited both utsa and UNT while being in SBC, so it might help them in recruiting if they play us. I'll stop now, this is getting long.

I'm a stAte fan saying that I would like CUSA to take all of the above EXCEPT TXST because I like TXST.

No need to pimp yourself to me.

(04-09-2013 11:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lots of cross posting between CUSA and SBC lately.

half of the teams belongs to both conference... we should just merge forums

I got tired of the realignment talk on the CUSA forum so I figured I'd come over to see why the stAte fans were running from the SBC forum.

(04-09-2013 11:36 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 11:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lots of cross posting between CUSA and SBC lately.

half of the teams belongs to both conference... we should just merge forums

I got tired of the realignment talk on the CUSA forum so I figured I'd come over to see why the stAte fans were running from the SBC forum.

lol...Bankowsky is the one who stirred this chat storm. I think he just threw this grenade for the lulz.

(04-09-2013 11:36 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 11:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lots of cross posting between CUSA and SBC lately.

half of the teams belongs to both conference... we should just merge forums

I got tired of the realignment talk on the CUSA forum so I figured I'd come over to see why the stAte fans were running from the SBC forum.

Your commish opened his big mouth.

Throw in a very strong dislike amongst state fans for Karl Benson, and you get things to hold on to. That and there is still this underlying fear that ULL will move without us, and our last ties to the original SBC will be gone.

If you guys didn't add anyone, I don't think our fans would lose much sleep over it.

(04-09-2013 10:37 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:04 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  The fans have absolutely nothing to do with decisions. Whether we act one way or another means nothing to anybody....especially other conference presidents.

My post was in regards to the action/statements of high-ranking officials at the two schools.

Aren't you the guy who suggested that the SBC add all HBCUs?

You obviously don't like my school and your bias is blinding you.

(04-09-2013 10:37 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:04 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  The fans have absolutely nothing to do with decisions. Whether we act one way or another means nothing to anybody....especially other conference presidents.

My post was in regards to the action/statements of high-ranking officials at the two schools.

This was the one and only interview to occur where our A.D. was this outspoken....suddenly UL officials are accused of "pimping" their University...you will probably not see any more interviews of this nature because it is the culture of UL to be pretty closed mouthed about pretty much anything concerning the school...Think of it what you will across the board...we...do...not...care. If we get a invite to another Conference then fine . If we do not, and until we do, we will be good members of this Conference. The decision rests with CUSA and their CEO's. An interview in the Lafayette paper is going to sway none of these people.

(04-09-2013 10:18 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

If UL and stAte stay together, we'll both be fine in either conference.

As for UL...MTSU did not have a real calm pre-invite period either and there were a few over-reactions over there and they are fine. I don't think CUSA cared that much.

As for us....we are not always the best at it, but most of our fans and admin make valiant attempts to reason things out. We present our case, we think its a good one, but its not our decision and there isn't a lot of sense in going fricking crazy. For the most part we are trying to prepare for one of two possible events without screwing either possibility up too much. If that's seen as bad mojo...so be it. It's who we are.

On your candidate list....I'd be pleased if CUSA took any two of those except TXST. The Sun Belt would be fine in that case. I think the UL/stAte pair covers more ground for CUSA than any of those...but not my decision.

ULL isn't "staying" with ASU, they are simply "stuck" with ASU in the SBC. Both would leave the other in a heartbeat if CUSA calls and no one will blame them for doing so.

(04-10-2013 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:18 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

If UL and stAte stay together, we'll both be fine in either conference.

As for UL...MTSU did not have a real calm pre-invite period either and there were a few over-reactions over there and they are fine. I don't think CUSA cared that much.

As for us....we are not always the best at it, but most of our fans and admin make valiant attempts to reason things out. We present our case, we think its a good one, but its not our decision and there isn't a lot of sense in going fricking crazy. For the most part we are trying to prepare for one of two possible events without screwing either possibility up too much. If that's seen as bad mojo...so be it. It's who we are.

On your candidate list....I'd be pleased if CUSA took any two of those except TXST. The Sun Belt would be fine in that case. I think the UL/stAte pair covers more ground for CUSA than any of those...but not my decision.

ULL isn't "staying" with ASU, they are simply "stuck" with ASU in the SBC. Both would leave the other in a heartbeat if CUSA calls and no one will blame them for doing so.

La Tech fans really are scared of UL and ASU. It would kill yall to have to watch us blow your team off the field.

(04-10-2013 06:30 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 10:18 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:50 PM)Bubba Bexley Wrote:  I don't think so. In fact, I don't think they are the top two choices of CUSA if it chooses to go to 16.

First, neither school is acting like you would expect candidate schools to act. ASU has sent out signals that it is resigned to the fact that it will be in the Belt in the foreseeable future with the recent negative comments toward CUSA. Also, certain ASU posters with connections have been negative toward CUSA. You don't trash someone you are courting. They are the bitter ex-girlfriend that has been dumped.

ULL on the other hand, seems to be in a state of panic. The powers at ULL are essentially begging CUSA to pick them. To make matters worse they are willing to trash its current conference in order to make itself more attractive. Again, you don't act like this if you are being courted. ULL is like the girl who is desperately seeking the affection of a guy who has his sights set on another.

Most people are tight-lipped until a deal is done. These two are not because there is no deal.

I believe if CUSA goes to 16 it will be from the following: Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

If UL and stAte stay together, we'll both be fine in either conference.

As for UL...MTSU did not have a real calm pre-invite period either and there were a few over-reactions over there and they are fine. I don't think CUSA cared that much.

As for us....we are not always the best at it, but most of our fans and admin make valiant attempts to reason things out. We present our case, we think its a good one, but its not our decision and there isn't a lot of sense in going fricking crazy. For the most part we are trying to prepare for one of two possible events without screwing either possibility up too much. If that's seen as bad mojo...so be it. It's who we are.

On your candidate list....I'd be pleased if CUSA took any two of those except TXST. The Sun Belt would be fine in that case. I think the UL/stAte pair covers more ground for CUSA than any of those...but not my decision.

ULL isn't "staying" with ASU, they are simply "stuck" with ASU in the SBC. Both would leave the other in a heartbeat if CUSA calls and no one will blame them for doing so.

c-usa would most likely take stAte and u-laf if they want the most substantial universities and best sports programs left in the belt to increase their overall conference standing. Since that would create a bigger gap between uta and texas state and the rest of the conference..I would think our administration is busy scratching their heads trying to figure out the next step for us. It seems to make sense to maybe ask us both along too and create a west division but we arent to the point of being very attractive additions yet..but c-usa has to figure that rice and usm and marshall are looking to get out and that they need to counter that.

As an MT fan, having gone through what ULL and ASU are going through, I can sympathize.

MT tried the "we're happy with the SBC" tactic once we got left out, and all that did was infuriate the fan base. Heck, at MT, we were about 2 days from storming the President's house with torches and pitchforks. Then, they released all that info (remember the "presentation") and that sort of calmed everyone day.

Cajun fans see all these teams leaving, they believe that teams that left were far inferior programs, and think that there had to be something wrong with someone - it's someone's fault. How are you going to sell tickets, and get donations, and build a buzz if your fan base feels that you're not trying to "improve" yourself, or there's a feeling that you're left behind?

It's not even a logical look at teams in CUSA/SBC (which aren't that much different) - it's the emotional reaction to being left behind.

(04-10-2013 07:19 AM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  As an MT fan, having gone through what ULL and ASU are going through, I can sympathize.

MT tried the "we're happy with the SBC" tactic once we got left out, and all that did was infuriate the fan base. Heck, at MT, we were about 2 days from storming the President's house with torches and pitchforks. Then, they released all that info (remember the "presentation") and that sort of calmed everyone day.

Cajun fans see all these teams leaving, they believe that teams that left were far inferior programs, and think that there had to be something wrong with someone - it's someone's fault. How are you going to sell tickets, and get donations, and build a buzz if your fan base feels that you're not trying to "improve" yourself, or there's a feeling that you're left behind?

It's not even a logical look at teams in CUSA/SBC (which aren't that much different) - it's the emotional reaction to being left behind.

That is true. Which is why everyone needs to take a step back. CUSA has taken Belt schools with very little (save MTSU) in the way of football resumes so far. So the also rans from the Belt join Marshall and USM... which right now are in complete disarray in football... plus some FCS move-ups, and that is somehow better? This whole process at this point is bordering on the absurd. If 16 team leagues are in our future, if a conference semi-final is possible... well then there will be a whole lot more changes in store for all of the conferences. CUSA going to 16 before anyone else serves no purpose in this time of change. The big boys are going to dictate how this plays out, and they have not moved on the 16 team model yet.

At AppState, we made it very, very clear in the press conference to accept the invite: We do not view this as the final word, or the pinnacle of where AppState is athletically. It is just the beginning of a long process, and we felt it was best to get into FBS so that we can be part of the conversation.

(04-09-2013 10:42 PM)Dracorex Wrote:   Texas State, Ga. State, Ohio, Miami (Ohio), JMU (football only) and NMSU (football only)

we'll stay at 14

CUSA would be fortunate to have Ohio and Miami-O together, but I don't see it happening so no worries.


.

The kill-shot to the Belt would be taking (should C-USA need four schools due to departures of their own) UL-L, ASU, Texas St. and Georgia St., leaving the Belt with Troy, USA, UL-M, Idaho and NMSU.

Nobody really wants to be in a league with Idaho and NMSU and Troy and UL-M really don't have the resources to be flying all over the country for their oly' sports. UConn and Cincy are not stable in the AAC, should they move, USM and UTEP are goners, after that the next call is to the Sun Belt. It's a very slippery slope right now.

(04-10-2013 07:46 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  The kill-shot to the Belt would be taking (should C-USA need four schools due to departures of their own) UL-L, ASU, Texas St. and Georgia St., leaving the Belt with Troy, USA, UL-M, Idaho and NMSU.

Nobody really wants to be in a league with Idaho and NMSU and Troy and UL-M really don't have the resources to be flying all over the country for their oly' sports. UConn and Cincy are not stable in the AAC, should they move, USM and UTEP are goners, after that the next call is to the Sun Belt. It's a very slippery slope right now.

For everybody. You can make the same "kill shot" argument about CUSA... all have left worth mentioning except Marshall and USM and that's not saying much. If there is another big movement (big 5 go to 16), CUSA will be decimated, and then, all bets are off...

(04-10-2013 08:03 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:46 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  The kill-shot to the Belt would be taking (should C-USA need four schools due to departures of their own) UL-L, ASU, Texas St. and Georgia St., leaving the Belt with Troy, USA, UL-M, Idaho and NMSU.

Nobody really wants to be in a league with Idaho and NMSU and Troy and UL-M really don't have the resources to be flying all over the country for their oly' sports. UConn and Cincy are not stable in the AAC, should they move, USM and UTEP are goners, after that the next call is to the Sun Belt. It's a very slippery slope right now.

For everybody. You can make the same "kill shot" argument about CUSA... all have left worth mentioning except Marshall and USM and that's not saying much. If there is another big movement (big 5 go to 16), CUSA will be decimated, and then, all bets are off...

USM and Marshall have accomplished quite a lot and there is no one in the this conference who would choose to stay with Appy State over joining a conference with USM and Marshall, if invited. Apply State has yet to play a down in FBS and its fans act like they are better than Bama. Appy State (and GSU-Statesboro) are in for a rude awakening when they realize they have underestimated and disrespected their Sun Belt brethren.