(04-09-2013 06:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 06:10 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 05:59 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 05:30 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote:  I think it is legit to a certain degree but dated. If it were made up, people like C4L would be posting 3 page diatribes about its authenticity

C4L is retired. 3 weeks until finals. I need to make up for lost study time.

And that is a damn shame...

Yeah, am sure we are all teared up something fierce.

Every time I see your posts I feel like I just got an add to head to lumber liquidators.

(04-10-2013 08:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  App State would have been in FBS earlier if our administration actually knew what they were doing.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

(04-10-2013 09:34 AM)hapapp Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 08:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  App State would have been in FBS earlier if our administration actually knew what they were doing.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

Sure there is. Borkowski was very open about his anti-progress feelings. When he wasn't piss drunk, that is.

(04-10-2013 07:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:47 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:20 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 08:35 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Put down the crack pipe. There are NO quotes from the university in that blog trash.

So you need the university to take a stance before you can decide one way or the other? The JMU beat writer, whose job it is to report on all things JMU, reported that they had nearly zero interest in the SBC. I think it was 09 who said a few pages back that WKU was denying that they were leaving the SBC until right before they joined C-USA.

That "blog trash" quoted the JMU beat writer, who probably has more inside knowledge than a guy who lives in Boone.

I'll take a way into FBS anyway that we can...but there's no need to get nasty. I thought we left that garbage on the caazone.

That's hilarious. You are hanging your argument from a UMASS blog that wrote a whole article off a one sentence tweet. Your "beat writer" has no more clue about what is going on than well connected JMU alumni do... and I know a few of them.

I'm not putting much stock into anything that DNR reporters tweet. We don't know how aggressively they're pursuing the issue and I know JMU's leaders won't be honest and outright with them.
We've said next to nothing for the last 2.5 years of realignment. Why stop now?

I agree. JMU is doing what it SHOULD be doing: working for the best solution for your school out of the spotlight of the media. That's what AppState did, and continues to do. It's a sign of a tight ship that information is not forthcoming from the university. It's a sign they know what they are doing.

Didn't your AD send an email to supporters communicating their fbs intentions and saying they were trying to get into cusa? That's pretty public. JMU on the other hand still hasn't publicly stated their desire to even pursue fbs, but evidence is clearly showing otherwise.

(04-10-2013 09:45 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:47 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:20 PM)TheDudeWithTheJMUTat Wrote:  So you need the university to take a stance before you can decide one way or the other? The JMU beat writer, whose job it is to report on all things JMU, reported that they had nearly zero interest in the SBC. I think it was 09 who said a few pages back that WKU was denying that they were leaving the SBC until right before they joined C-USA.

That "blog trash" quoted the JMU beat writer, who probably has more inside knowledge than a guy who lives in Boone.

I'll take a way into FBS anyway that we can...but there's no need to get nasty. I thought we left that garbage on the caazone.

That's hilarious. You are hanging your argument from a UMASS blog that wrote a whole article off a one sentence tweet. Your "beat writer" has no more clue about what is going on than well connected JMU alumni do... and I know a few of them.

I'm not putting much stock into anything that DNR reporters tweet. We don't know how aggressively they're pursuing the issue and I know JMU's leaders won't be honest and outright with them.
We've said next to nothing for the last 2.5 years of realignment. Why stop now?

I agree. JMU is doing what it SHOULD be doing: working for the best solution for your school out of the spotlight of the media. That's what AppState did, and continues to do. It's a sign of a tight ship that information is not forthcoming from the university. It's a sign they know what they are doing.

Didn't your AD send an email to supporters communicating their fbs intentions and saying they were trying to get into cusa? That's pretty public. JMU on the other hand still hasn't publicly stated their desire to even pursue fbs, but evidence is clearly showing otherwise.

No. That letter happened after CUSA picked ODU and Charlotte. It was the AD's only official communication on the conference recruitment/selection process to alumni and friends. The feasibility study and the committee that produced it recommended the move to FBS prior to that communication, several months prior if I remember correctly.

(04-10-2013 09:45 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  JMU on the other hand still hasn't publicly stated their desire to even pursue fbs, but evidence is clearly showing otherwise.

Plus one to JMU.

When Arkansas State left the Southland to help form the American South, it didn't leak until the day before the press conference.

When Arkansas State made the decision to move to I-A there was very little talk then suddenly ASU AD/head football coach announces he is leaving to be defensive coordinator at Tennessee. The next day (either Saturday or Sunday can't remember now) the local TV station has a 30 minute live sit down interview with ASU's president to talk about what happened. The president explains how the NCAA structure has changed and that it was essential for ASU to move to I-A to continue to be viable. He had met with the AD/coach and they agreed that the position of AD and head football coach had to be split in order to make the transition work. The AD/coach said he would like to begin looking for a new coach, the president said, "No, I'd like for you to coach, I'm looking for a new AD."

It was just BAM we are moving there was basically little leaked leading up to it.

(04-10-2013 09:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 09:45 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:47 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:41 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  That's hilarious. You are hanging your argument from a UMASS blog that wrote a whole article off a one sentence tweet. Your "beat writer" has no more clue about what is going on than well connected JMU alumni do... and I know a few of them.

I'm not putting much stock into anything that DNR reporters tweet. We don't know how aggressively they're pursuing the issue and I know JMU's leaders won't be honest and outright with them.
We've said next to nothing for the last 2.5 years of realignment. Why stop now?

I agree. JMU is doing what it SHOULD be doing: working for the best solution for your school out of the spotlight of the media. That's what AppState did, and continues to do. It's a sign of a tight ship that information is not forthcoming from the university. It's a sign they know what they are doing.

Didn't your AD send an email to supporters communicating their fbs intentions and saying they were trying to get into cusa? That's pretty public. JMU on the other hand still hasn't publicly stated their desire to even pursue fbs, but evidence is clearly showing otherwise.

No. That letter happened after CUSA picked ODU and Charlotte. It was the AD's only official communication on the conference recruitment/selection process to alumni and friends. The feasibility study and the committee that produced it recommended the move to FBS prior to that communication, several months prior if I remember correctly.

That's two things more than JMU has ever said. We've neither publicly acknowledged an fbs feasibility study, nor has the AD sent any letters.

(04-10-2013 07:57 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  It's a sign they know what they are doing.

It can also be a conveniant cover for incompetence.

(04-09-2013 09:34 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:28 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 08:35 PM)appsfan Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 04:48 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 04:40 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  JMU hasn't said no to anyone.

They have publicly said they are "not interested". How is that not saying "no" exactly.

Exhibit A: A man walks into a bar and walks up to the hottest chick there, and says "lets have sex", she replies "not interested".......case closed.

They may re-track that statement in the near future, but that remains to be seen.

To those of us in sales, no means not now... just saying.

To those who work with the law the term "no means no" comes to mind....just saying.

As for crack pipe comments, I really am not gonna entertain that from a "92 grad" on a message board any more than the JMU poster did so above.^

That's because you are wrong, and you know it. If you can find anything, ANYTHING coming from JMU that says they have "no interest in the Sunbelt", you would have gladly posted it. And I would have acknowledged my error, but alas, you cannot.

I can only report what the beat writer said, that would be the same as me using Tommy Bowman's App Trail tweets or articles. Would you refer to what that man puts out as "trash" as well? The beat writer tweeted what he was told from JMU ADMINs and the AD office. How is that not clear to you, I got it, you really want JMU in, so do I. How is that so hard to understand?

They may accept an offer but they are fully able to bluff us, the press, and their alums sort of like WKU did.

Charlie? Is that you?

(04-10-2013 03:59 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:34 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:28 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 08:35 PM)appsfan Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 04:48 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  They have publicly said they are "not interested". How is that not saying "no" exactly.

Exhibit A: A man walks into a bar and walks up to the hottest chick there, and says "lets have sex", she replies "not interested".......case closed.

They may re-track that statement in the near future, but that remains to be seen.

To those of us in sales, no means not now... just saying.

To those who work with the law the term "no means no" comes to mind....just saying.

As for crack pipe comments, I really am not gonna entertain that from a "92 grad" on a message board any more than the JMU poster did so above.^

That's because you are wrong, and you know it. If you can find anything, ANYTHING coming from JMU that says they have "no interest in the Sunbelt", you would have gladly posted it. And I would have acknowledged my error, but alas, you cannot.

I can only report what the beat writer said, that would be the same as me using Tommy Bowman's App Trail tweets or articles. Would you refer to what that man puts out as "trash" as well? The beat writer tweeted what he was told from JMU ADMINs and the AD office. How is that not clear to you, I got it, you really want JMU in, so do I. How is that so hard to understand?

They may accept an offer but they are fully able to bluff us, the press, and their alums sort of like WKU did.

Charlie? Is that you?

Yes. Yes it is.

(04-10-2013 04:25 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 03:59 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:34 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 09:28 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(04-09-2013 08:35 PM)appsfan Wrote:  To those of us in sales, no means not now... just saying.

To those who work with the law the term "no means no" comes to mind....just saying.

As for crack pipe comments, I really am not gonna entertain that from a "92 grad" on a message board any more than the JMU poster did so above.^

That's because you are wrong, and you know it. If you can find anything, ANYTHING coming from JMU that says they have "no interest in the Sunbelt", you would have gladly posted it. And I would have acknowledged my error, but alas, you cannot.

I can only report what the beat writer said, that would be the same as me using Tommy Bowman's App Trail tweets or articles. Would you refer to what that man puts out as "trash" as well? The beat writer tweeted what he was told from JMU ADMINs and the AD office. How is that not clear to you, I got it, you really want JMU in, so do I. How is that so hard to understand?

They may accept an offer but they are fully able to bluff us, the press, and their alums sort of like WKU did.

Charlie? Is that you?

Yes. Yes it is.

Our local rag just went "pay-per-view" but here's a thread on our forum with a recap from our beat writer's FOIA:

http://bobcatfans.com/forums/viewtopic.p...6f98380b84

(04-10-2013 09:34 AM)hapapp Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 08:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  App State would have been in FBS earlier if our administration actually knew what they were doing.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

Other than them admitting it you mean.
They admitted App State could have been in an FBS conference last year and over a year ago. Direct statement.
Then they admitted they blew it on last years campaign. Remember when they said that and were then emphasizing accessibility, etc.
When they admit they messed up, then it is fact they didn't know what they were doing.

Dukes09 - Yes, JMU may very well be keeping everything close to the vest. Some administrations take it to untold heights.

(04-11-2013 05:27 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 09:34 AM)hapapp Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 08:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  App State would have been in FBS earlier if our administration actually knew what they were doing.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

Other than them admitting it you mean.
They admitted App State could have been in an FBS conference last year and over a year ago. Direct statement.
Then they admitted they blew it on last years campaign. Remember when they said that and were then emphasizing accessibility, etc.
When they admit they messed up, then it is fact they didn't know what they were doing.

Dukes09 - Yes, JMU may very well be keeping everything close to the vest. Some administrations take it to untold heights.

What 70 is saying is true, but it is widely believed and broadly accepted that conference was likely the WAC as they tried in their last hours to save themselves. Our AD did make that statement, but did not identify the conference.

I would also fall short of saying we did not know what we were doing... I'd prefer to say that we had promoted our program's resume with an emphasis on a winning culture and strong support... when we should have been talking markets, program influence, and alumni demographics. However, we will never know if that would have earned us a CUSA invite or not... I'd wager no... simply because of the metro demographic choices CUSA has made.

It has been stated by several posters on this board that the Sun Belt was willing to add App State last year, but that Georgia Southern was not in a position to be ready so App would not have had them along.