Tony Barnhart, of CBS Sports, AJC, and AM 790 "The Zone" posted this article on Georgia Southern's move to FBS. Barnhart was a former Georgia Southern student before finishing at UGA.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...r-fbs-leap

Appalachian is getting $1,000,000 for playing Michigan in 2014. He said $850,000.
Believe the $850,000 was if App State had not gone FBS by then.

Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

When I-AA had a 4 team playoff, it expanded to 8 in less than 10 years and I expect it to happen in the FBS at the same level. I just hope they stop at 8 or 16.

(04-06-2013 07:27 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

When I-AA had a 4 team playoff, it expanded to 8 in less than 10 years and I expect it to happen in the FBS at the same level. I just hope they stop at 8 or 16.

Agreed. when FCS went to 20, it watered down the playoffs by adding teams that had no business being in the playoffs.

(04-06-2013 07:31 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:27 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

When I-AA had a 4 team playoff, it expanded to 8 in less than 10 years and I expect it to happen in the FBS at the same level. I just hope they stop at 8 or 16.

Agreed. when FCS went to 20, it watered down the playoffs by adding teams that had no business being in the playoffs.

Any yet its expanded again.

Without a # of its top 25 teams.

(04-06-2013 08:26 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:31 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:27 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

When I-AA had a 4 team playoff, it expanded to 8 in less than 10 years and I expect it to happen in the FBS at the same level. I just hope they stop at 8 or 16.

Agreed. when FCS went to 20, it watered down the playoffs by adding teams that had no business being in the playoffs.

Any yet its expanded again.

Without a # of its top 25 teams.

What's funny is this is exactly how the BCS programs view FBS expansion. In all honesty, there is huge disparity between the teams with a legit shot at a title and those who should not sniff a BCS game. Even Notre Dame was not on the same level as Alabama last year, so an expansion of FBS playoffs to more than 8 teams is pretty pointless in terms of finding a true champion. Giving the BCS champs their auto bid and leaving a few spots open for at large consideration so the Boises aren't excluded due to politics is all you need.

Playoffs will be expanding rapidly. I always hear that it will be 8 teams as the final destination. Never have understood this logic, and a lot of the time it is fans of FCS teams saying this. They don't want their favorite "FBS" team to have to resort to the bureaucracy of FCS. I know FCS is now expanding, but the perfect system is 16 teams, no more, no less.

(04-07-2013 05:05 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Playoffs will be expanding rapidly. I always hear that it will be 8 teams as the final destination. Never have understood this logic, and a lot of the time it is fans of FCS teams saying this. They don't want their favorite "FBS" team to have to resort to the bureaucracy of FCS. I know FCS is now expanding, but the perfect system is 16 teams, no more, no less.

Once the $$$$ starts rolling in, the playoffs will quickly expand. If there is one thing we learned in realignment, $$$$ drives the show. It will get to 16.

16 team playoffs do seem like the best, but would be satisfied with 8 for awhile.
Money to be really be made if they would do it right.

I'd like 16 teams eventually, including every conference champ. Like the NCAA hoops tourney, everyone would have a path to the title. Win your conference, and you keep playing. Unlike hoops, you don't water down the regular season by giving too many at-large berths.

The bowls would still be fine.

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

(04-07-2013 07:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

(04-07-2013 08:01 PM)Higher Education Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

Not just beating one, but several in a championship tournament. Beating one can happen, beating 2 or 3 in a row, not going to happen.

(04-07-2013 08:11 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:01 PM)Higher Education Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

Not just beating one, but several in a championship tournament. Beating one can happen, beating 2 or 3 in a row, not going to happen.

Hey, maybe you are right?? But let me ask you something, IF the "big boys" are Soooooo Sure of that, then what are they afraid of in putting it on the line. Hey, if they are right - then all of us other guys will be gone after the first week anyway right? AH..... But! What does that do to recruiting? When our Coaches can sit down in a living room and honestly tell a parent and athlete that our teams do have a chance to earn their way to playing for a National Championship - the ballance of power just might shift just a little bit. THIS is what they do not want to see because IF more and more of us little guys make our way to hughe paying bowl games THEN that $$$$ will begin to develope the facilities at non-AQ programs. It could be a snowball effect that they just dont want to think about. Why else would they feel it neccessary to put into writting that they will not even talk about expanding beyond 4 teams for 12 years? They know the public is going to go crazy to expand that thing as soon as they get a taste for it.

(04-07-2013 08:19 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:11 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:01 PM)Higher Education Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

Not just beating one, but several in a championship tournament. Beating one can happen, beating 2 or 3 in a row, not going to happen.

Hey, maybe you are right?? But let me ask you something, IF the "big boys" are Soooooo Sure of that, then what are they afraid of in putting it on the line. Hey, if they are right - then all of us other guys will be gone after the first week anyway right? AH..... But! What does that do to recruiting? When our Coaches can sit down in a living room and honestly tell a parent and athlete that our teams do have a chance to earn their way to playing for a National Championship - the ballance of power just might shift just a little bit. THIS is what they do not want to see because IF more and more of us little guys make our way to hughe paying bowl games THEN that $$$$ will begin to develope the facilities at non-AQ programs. It could be a snowball effect that they just dont want to think about. Why else would they feel it neccessary to put into writting that they will not even talk about expanding beyond 4 teams for 12 years? They know the public is going to go crazy to expand that thing as soon as they get a taste for it.

Exactly, it's all about money. I can't blame them for wanting to maintain the status quo.

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Had Boise not lost to Nevada at the end of the season a couple of years ago, They likely would have been in the title game.

(04-07-2013 08:29 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:19 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:11 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:01 PM)Higher Education Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:56 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Seems I remember UCF put a thrashing on UGA couple a years ago in a Bowl.

That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

Not just beating one, but several in a championship tournament. Beating one can happen, beating 2 or 3 in a row, not going to happen.

Hey, maybe you are right?? But let me ask you something, IF the "big boys" are Soooooo Sure of that, then what are they afraid of in putting it on the line. Hey, if they are right - then all of us other guys will be gone after the first week anyway right? AH..... But! What does that do to recruiting? When our Coaches can sit down in a living room and honestly tell a parent and athlete that our teams do have a chance to earn their way to playing for a National Championship - the ballance of power just might shift just a little bit. THIS is what they do not want to see because IF more and more of us little guys make our way to hughe paying bowl games THEN that $$$$ will begin to develope the facilities at non-AQ programs. It could be a snowball effect that they just dont want to think about. Why else would they feel it neccessary to put into writting that they will not even talk about expanding beyond 4 teams for 12 years? They know the public is going to go crazy to expand that thing as soon as they get a taste for it.

Exactly, it's all about money. I can't blame them for wanting to maintain the status quo.

I can. When they do it by unjustly restricting $ from programs that needed it, regardless of weather the teams deserve a shot or not. This is NOT what is best for the student athlete or for college football. The sport is bigger than the BCS programs, they don't or shouldn't OWN it. They have certainly earned an advantage over most other programs by paving the way and playing at the highest level for so long. But when they refuse to put the title on the line to all teams, they taint the championship. They dont need the money, they just want to keep the have nots from getting their hands on it. That is GREED. So yea, I blame them.

(04-07-2013 09:41 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 07:41 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:19 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  Thanks for sharing. When that 4 team playoff catches fire, who's to say that it wont expand to 8? There's enough parity in FBS to say that in any given year, any one of 8 teams could win a championship.

I couldn't disagree more with this.

I don't think any teams in the MAC, CUSA, or SBC will ever sniff a national title. Same probably goes for MWC and AAC teams.

Football isn't basketball. Sure inferior teams pull upsets, but the odds of pulling off several upsets against vastly superior talent is so much less likely than it is in basketball.

Had Boise not lost to Nevada at the end of the season a couple of years ago, They likely would have been in the title game.

System is changing. A perfect season from a a team outside the group of 5 will land them in a well paying bowl, but not the championship series.

(04-07-2013 09:53 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:29 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:19 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:11 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:01 PM)Higher Education Wrote:  That was a pretty crappy UGA team. He's talking about beating top 4 BCS teams at the end of the season.

Not just beating one, but several in a championship tournament. Beating one can happen, beating 2 or 3 in a row, not going to happen.

Hey, maybe you are right?? But let me ask you something, IF the "big boys" are Soooooo Sure of that, then what are they afraid of in putting it on the line. Hey, if they are right - then all of us other guys will be gone after the first week anyway right? AH..... But! What does that do to recruiting? When our Coaches can sit down in a living room and honestly tell a parent and athlete that our teams do have a chance to earn their way to playing for a National Championship - the ballance of power just might shift just a little bit. THIS is what they do not want to see because IF more and more of us little guys make our way to hughe paying bowl games THEN that $$$$ will begin to develope the facilities at non-AQ programs. It could be a snowball effect that they just dont want to think about. Why else would they feel it neccessary to put into writting that they will not even talk about expanding beyond 4 teams for 12 years? They know the public is going to go crazy to expand that thing as soon as they get a taste for it.

Exactly, it's all about money. I can't blame them for wanting to maintain the status quo.

I can. When they do it by unjustly restricting $ from programs that needed it, regardless of weather the teams deserve a shot or not. This is NOT what is best for the student athlete or for college football. The sport is bigger than the BCS programs, they don't or shouldn't OWN it. They have certainly earned an advantage over most other programs by paving the way and playing at the highest level for so long. But when they refuse to put the title on the line to all teams, they taint the championship. They dont need the money, they just want to keep the have nots from getting their hands on it. That is GREED. So yea, I blame them.

Never said I agreed with the power schools or that I was happy the way things are, I'm just saying if I was running the athletic department at a power school, I'd tell the lower tier schools to go pound sand too.