(03-31-2013 08:02 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  no......i love mr. ho.

i bow down to his schtick and wit.

i was referring back to my old days when i posted in the 3rd person in a mish-mash of hiphop ebonics and spanish......also at times under the influence of firewater.

i've come a long way.

someone that frequents the troy board....please tell me mr. ho is still bringing it over there.

Ha of course he does... But he only comes around during football season only... Usually shows up a week before our first game. No other time of year does he post.

(03-30-2013 12:03 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 11:30 AM)GS T-bone Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 11:06 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  i've welcomed ga southern and appy state in the welcome thread.

you both have impressive resumes but i'll share what i noticed as a western fan when we moved up.

let me preface this with the fact that we were already on a bad downhill slide led by david eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson when we transitioned.

i don't see you guys in that shape but i'll share my observations anyhoo.

the sun belt teams that first rolled into l.t. smith stadium were flat out BIGGER. at every position. i remember the first time i saw the cajun's o-line i couldn't believe how big they were.

most of the sun belt teams had some 6'4 baller receivers that we weren't used to seeing in fcs.

the first time i saw troy roll in i couldn't believe how fast (and cocky...lol) they were. about their defense i said..."i want one"

i know you 'think' you have equal talent already just not as many. you might be right but i honestly doubt it. your line is gonna be smaller. your linebackers are gonna be shorter. your corners and safeties are gonna be much shorter.

and the belt was a balanced league. nobody was head and shoulders above and nobody was a guaranteed win....except us under eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

i do believe you'll both transition better than we did simply because neither of you had eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

but the size and speed of the belt teams are gonna surprise you. go ahead and scoff and say 'beed is a hoops fan and doesn't know jack about football. i'm just trying to give you a heads up.

just to save you some time....please don't inundate this thread with your 'pressbook' heights and weights and statistics. i'll believe them as much as i believe every troy recruit runs a 4.28.

By the way, I truly think Troy is going to easily win the East the first few years.

Probably. But USA is lurking in the background.

I appreciate stAte's respect for our program, but....I'm going to wait till after a few games this year to see where we are at. Last year we were competitive in most games, but our lack of depth just killed us. I hope for 5 wins next year but a lot of our easier games are on the road. We found a quarterback (during the stAte game) and we do have a good core of returning players. But we only won 2 games last year.

We will get there, to be sure. I'm just not sure next year is the year we become bowl eligible.

We did play a great game up on Jonesboro. Looking forward to hosting you guys down in Mobile.

(03-31-2013 08:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 12:03 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 11:30 AM)GS T-bone Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 11:06 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  i've welcomed ga southern and appy state in the welcome thread.

you both have impressive resumes but i'll share what i noticed as a western fan when we moved up.

let me preface this with the fact that we were already on a bad downhill slide led by david eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson when we transitioned.

i don't see you guys in that shape but i'll share my observations anyhoo.

the sun belt teams that first rolled into l.t. smith stadium were flat out BIGGER. at every position. i remember the first time i saw the cajun's o-line i couldn't believe how big they were.

most of the sun belt teams had some 6'4 baller receivers that we weren't used to seeing in fcs.

the first time i saw troy roll in i couldn't believe how fast (and cocky...lol) they were. about their defense i said..."i want one"

i know you 'think' you have equal talent already just not as many. you might be right but i honestly doubt it. your line is gonna be smaller. your linebackers are gonna be shorter. your corners and safeties are gonna be much shorter.

and the belt was a balanced league. nobody was head and shoulders above and nobody was a guaranteed win....except us under eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

i do believe you'll both transition better than we did simply because neither of you had eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

but the size and speed of the belt teams are gonna surprise you. go ahead and scoff and say 'beed is a hoops fan and doesn't know jack about football. i'm just trying to give you a heads up.

just to save you some time....please don't inundate this thread with your 'pressbook' heights and weights and statistics. i'll believe them as much as i believe every troy recruit runs a 4.28.

By the way, I truly think Troy is going to easily win the East the first few years.

Probably. But USA is lurking in the background.

I appreciate stAte's respect for our program, but....I'm going to wait till after a few games this year to see where we are at. Last year we were competitive in most games, but our lack of depth just killed us. I hope for 5 wins next year but a lot of our easier games are on the road. We found a quarterback (during the stAte game) and we do have a good core of returning players. But we only won 2 games last year.

We will get there, to be sure. I'm just not sure next year is the year we become bowl eligible.

We did play a great game up on Jonesboro. Looking forward to hosting you guys down in Mobile.

I remember walking from the stadium after that game, and if you had not looked at the scoreboard, you would've thought we had lost. After hearing what fans were saying after that game, it was obvious that Malzahn's honeymoon was over.

(03-31-2013 08:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I appreciate stAte's respect for our program, but....I'm going to wait till after a few games this year to see where we are at. Last year we were competitive in most games, but our lack of depth just killed us. I hope for 5 wins next year but a lot of our easier games are on the road. We found a quarterback (during the stAte game) and we do have a good core of returning players. But we only won 2 games last year.

We will get there, to be sure. I'm just not sure next year is the year we become bowl eligible.

We did play a great game up on Jonesboro. Looking forward to hosting you guys down in Mobile.

I think that it was part depth and part experience at the FBS level. We made way too many mistakes in close games. The only games we really got spanked were the Troy and UL games. A few weeks ago I went back and compiled the offensive stats for our SBC games last year. In 8 conference games, we were outrushed by about 200 yards, outpassed by about the same, and had 11 fewer first downs. Take out the Troy game and it would have been even closer. I hope we can build on that.

When was the last time a "playoff quality" FCS team moved up to FBS? FAU is probably one, although I'm not sure about them since the owls may have been a senior laden team when they did their semi-final run and as such they may have been in rebuilding mode when they joined FBS. Troy is another one, but I don't remember how good a team they were when they joined the Sunbelt. As for the rest of the schools that have gone FBS in the last 10-15 years there is not a single team that would have made the top 25 in FCS during their transition period.

(03-31-2013 09:41 PM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  When was the last time a "playoff quality" FCS team moved up to FBS? FAU is probably one, although I'm not sure about them since the owls may have been a senior laden team when they did their semi-final run and as such they may have been in rebuilding mode when they joined FBS. Troy is another one, but I don't remember how good a team they were when they joined the Sunbelt. As for the rest of the schools that have gone FBS in the last 10-15 years there is not a single team that would have made the top 25 in FCS during their transition period.

Troy had a good transition.

College Football Data Warehouse

We went 7-4 In our first transition year in 2001. But followed it with 4-8 in 2002 then 6-6 then in 2004 we went 7-4 and our first bowl game.

(03-31-2013 09:17 PM)HCJag Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 08:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I appreciate stAte's respect for our program, but....I'm going to wait till after a few games this year to see where we are at. Last year we were competitive in most games, but our lack of depth just killed us. I hope for 5 wins next year but a lot of our easier games are on the road. We found a quarterback (during the stAte game) and we do have a good core of returning players. But we only won 2 games last year.

We will get there, to be sure. I'm just not sure next year is the year we become bowl eligible.

We did play a great game up on Jonesboro. Looking forward to hosting you guys down in Mobile.

I think that it was part depth and part experience at the FBS level. We made way too many mistakes in close games. The only games we really got spanked were the Troy and UL games. A few weeks ago I went back and compiled the offensive stats for our SBC games last year. In 8 conference games, we were outrushed by about 200 yards, outpassed by about the same, and had 11 fewer first downs. Take out the Troy game and it would have been even closer. I hope we can build on that.

A lot of those mistakes were due to the point of the OP, which was depth problems. Coach JJ made what would appear to be really boneheaded calls because he knew he had to take risks because his team didn't have the gas in the 4th quarter.

Depth and size.

(03-31-2013 10:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 09:17 PM)HCJag Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 08:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I appreciate stAte's respect for our program, but....I'm going to wait till after a few games this year to see where we are at. Last year we were competitive in most games, but our lack of depth just killed us. I hope for 5 wins next year but a lot of our easier games are on the road. We found a quarterback (during the stAte game) and we do have a good core of returning players. But we only won 2 games last year.

We will get there, to be sure. I'm just not sure next year is the year we become bowl eligible.

We did play a great game up on Jonesboro. Looking forward to hosting you guys down in Mobile.

I think that it was part depth and part experience at the FBS level. We made way too many mistakes in close games. The only games we really got spanked were the Troy and UL games. A few weeks ago I went back and compiled the offensive stats for our SBC games last year. In 8 conference games, we were outrushed by about 200 yards, outpassed by about the same, and had 11 fewer first downs. Take out the Troy game and it would have been even closer. I hope we can build on that.

A lot of those mistakes were due to the point of the OP, which was depth problems. Coach JJ made what would appear to be really boneheaded calls because he knew he had to take risks because his team didn't have the gas in the 4th quarter.

Depth and size.

USA is a few play makers on both side of the ball in order to start winning, and winning big. You guys out of every school in the Sun Belt has the most upside due to location.

(03-31-2013 09:56 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We went 7-4 In our first transition year in 2001. But followed it with 4-8 in 2002 then 6-6 then in 2004 we went 7-4 and our first bowl game.

Thanks, this, to me anyway, makes it reasonable to assume that both ASU and GS will hit the ground running in 2014. The 2014 version of the SBC is closer to the 2002 SBC than what we've seen out of the Sunbelt the last couple of years although the teams at the top should be stronger than 10-12 years ago.

(03-31-2013 07:33 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 07:01 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....

how do i address you......man who ***** buffalos?

lol. calm down bro-seph. you don't like my message and i won't let you argue fake as a scripper's rack numbers so you attack my linguistic skills....or lack of.

again....one man's opinion. no need to get riled up. this is a message board. not parliamentary procedure governed by robert's rules of order.

p.s. if my writing skillz offend you now be glad you weren't on this board years ago.

Water Buffalos? Hell, you got me bro!

(04-01-2013 10:02 AM)txstatebobcat Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 09:56 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We went 7-4 In our first transition year in 2001. But followed it with 4-8 in 2002 then 6-6 then in 2004 we went 7-4 and our first bowl game.

Thanks, this, to me anyway, makes it reasonable to assume that both ASU and GS will hit the ground running in 2014. The 2014 version of the SBC is closer to the 2002 SBC than what we've seen out of the Sunbelt the last couple of years although the teams at the top should be stronger than 10-12 years ago.

I fully agree Ark State and Georgia State will hit the ground running........

One thing is for sure, we will have to improve some fundamentals over last year's team prior to 2014. If we fumble pitches like we did last year, the depth issues will add up to a losing record. However, I do feel like we have the staff to deal with the reduced margin of error we'll have to play with. I think a .500 record next year is a pretty reasonable expectation.

(03-30-2013 11:06 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  i've welcomed ga southern and appy state in the welcome thread.

you both have impressive resumes but i'll share what i noticed as a western fan when we moved up.

let me preface this with the fact that we were already on a bad downhill slide led by david eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson when we transitioned.

i don't see you guys in that shape but i'll share my observations anyhoo.

the sun belt teams that first rolled into l.t. smith stadium were flat out BIGGER. at every position. i remember the first time i saw the cajun's o-line i couldn't believe how big they were.

most of the sun belt teams had some 6'4 baller receivers that we weren't used to seeing in fcs.

the first time i saw troy roll in i couldn't believe how fast (and cocky...lol) they were. about their defense i said..."i want one"

i know you 'think' you have equal talent already just not as many. you might be right but i honestly doubt it. your line is gonna be smaller. your linebackers are gonna be shorter. your corners and safeties are gonna be much shorter.

and the belt was a balanced league. nobody was head and shoulders above and nobody was a guaranteed win....except us under eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

i do believe you'll both transition better than we did simply because neither of you had eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

but the size and speed of the belt teams are gonna surprise you. go ahead and scoff and say 'beed is a hoops fan and doesn't know jack about football. i'm just trying to give you a heads up.

just to save you some time....please don't inundate this thread with your 'pressbook' heights and weights and statistics. i'll believe them as much as i believe every troy recruit runs a 4.28.

dammit beed....when they gonna listen to ya'?

you wrote this 6 months ago. it was directed at the ga southern and appy folk but got-dang if you didn't hear a whole buncha this type of responses outta the tx state homies following their visit to lafayette.

i'm not calling them folks out. i didn't go back and read the thread but if my recollectin' is correct the ga southern and appy folks kinda let me know there either wouldn't be a size difference (appy) or it wouldn't matter due to the unfiguarableoutedness of the option and its small more athletic linemen (ga southern)

now.....next year may prove them right.

but i been hearin' a whole lot of 'their o-line was soooo big' out of the fine folks from texas.

don't ya'll worry about beed hurtin' his arm from pattin' his own back. he's done that so much over the years it's double-jointed by now.

you been learnt. again.

(10-07-2013 08:01 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 11:06 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  i've welcomed ga southern and appy state in the welcome thread.

you both have impressive resumes but i'll share what i noticed as a western fan when we moved up.

let me preface this with the fact that we were already on a bad downhill slide led by david eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson when we transitioned.

i don't see you guys in that shape but i'll share my observations anyhoo.

the sun belt teams that first rolled into l.t. smith stadium were flat out BIGGER. at every position. i remember the first time i saw the cajun's o-line i couldn't believe how big they were.

most of the sun belt teams had some 6'4 baller receivers that we weren't used to seeing in fcs.

the first time i saw troy roll in i couldn't believe how fast (and cocky...lol) they were. about their defense i said..."i want one"

i know you 'think' you have equal talent already just not as many. you might be right but i honestly doubt it. your line is gonna be smaller. your linebackers are gonna be shorter. your corners and safeties are gonna be much shorter.

and the belt was a balanced league. nobody was head and shoulders above and nobody was a guaranteed win....except us under eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

i do believe you'll both transition better than we did simply because neither of you had eLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLson.

but the size and speed of the belt teams are gonna surprise you. go ahead and scoff and say 'beed is a hoops fan and doesn't know jack about football. i'm just trying to give you a heads up.

just to save you some time....please don't inundate this thread with your 'pressbook' heights and weights and statistics. i'll believe them as much as i believe every troy recruit runs a 4.28.

dammit beed....when they gonna listen to ya'?

you wrote this 6 months ago. it was directed at the ga southern and appy folk but got-dang if you didn't hear a whole buncha this type of responses outta the tx state homies following their visit to lafayette.

i'm not calling them folks out. i didn't go back and read the thread but if my recollectin' is correct the ga southern and appy folks kinda let me know there either wouldn't be a size difference (appy) or it wouldn't matter due to the unfiguarableoutedness of the option and its small more athletic linemen (ga southern)

now.....next year may prove them right.

but i been hearin' a whole lot of 'their o-line was soooo big' out of the fine folks from texas.

don't ya'll worry about beed hurtin' his arm from pattin' his own back. he's done that so much over the years it's double-jointed by now.

you been learnt. again.