http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-source...apiro-acts

We've heard a lot lately about how the NCAA has mismanaged the Miami investigation and how Miami wants the case dropped, but now the NCAA fires back a little bit at Miami and asks, "why did you keep associating with Shapiro after you knew he might be dirty?"

Quote:The NCAA is alleging that some Miami officials essentially looked the other way when presented with evidence of booster Nevin Shapiro's wrongdoing ? the heart of the lack of "institutional control" charge, the person told The Associated Press Friday.

The NCAA, according to the person, has asked Miami to detail whether or not it hired a private investigator to look into Shapiro's business dealings between 2002 and 2005, records of a meeting between at least one athletics department official and Shapiro in 2003, and the findings of a study the school conducted with regard to Shapiro in 2006.

Miami has also been asked to provide copies of certain email exchanges that were about Shapiro, including one from 2008 that was sent to at least one member of the Atlantic Coast Conference's staff.

Quote:"When put on notice of potential issues with Shapiro's involvement ... the institution failed to limit Shapiro's access or implement any additional monitoring related to Shapiro," the NCAA alleged in the notice of allegations, delivered last month and details of which were shared with AP. "This lack of oversight created an environment in which Shapiro was able to have impermissible contact."

First off, these are the first details that have been published from the NOA, so this really isn't anything new to the case, but it is news to the public. The fact that the NCAA is asking for this response also isn't new, as that is customary as part of the process. The news here is that this detail of the NOA has been made public. The timing of which seems to be such that the NCAA is tired of the beatdowns in the press over the case and wants the public ire to return to Miami - where it really should belong.

Since Miami is private, they have no requirement to publish anything from their NOA, unlike UCF did. USC didn't publish anything about their case until the NCAA published the Infractions Report at the conclusion of the process. I'd be willing ot say Miami does a similar action.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...tions-case

In a related story, Miami officially files a motion to dismiss the case.

My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

No, MiamiU is not private its ...

... oh, wait, you mean UMiami. Yeah, its hard for a school with relatively demanding undergrad standards to put together an elite football program without cheating. A lot easier for schools that stake their academic status on their grad schools.

Is Miami any different now than they were back in the 1980's? I don't think so.

That school needs to be taken behind the woodshed and beaten.

(03-29-2013 01:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

+1

(03-29-2013 11:26 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 01:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

+1

This....

There is no doubt they are guilty as sin...I find it funny that every time someone gets caught like USC, Ohio State, Penn State, UNC...now Miami...they blame the NCAA. The NCAA isn't perfect and should have stopped pretending they were, but they are following the leads.

So as much as the NCAA doesn't always do things correctly, these schools are just criticizing the process in order to redirect attention away from their transgressions.

(03-30-2013 10:17 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 11:26 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 01:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

+1

This....

There is no doubt they are guilty as sin...I find it funny that every time someone gets caught like USC, Ohio State, Penn State, UNC...now Miami...they blame the NCAA. The NCAA isn't perfect and should have stopped pretending they were, but they are following the leads.

So as much as the NCAA doesn't always do things correctly, these schools are just criticizing the process in order to redirect attention away from their transgressions.

If Shapiro is to be believed in all that he claims about Miami, then the NCAA has an obligation to follow-up on ALL the claims he has made. He has stated (in the Yahoo investigation) that Miami never paid for players because they would always be outbid by the SEC schools. Why hasn't the NCAA followed up with this assertion?

http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/n...ble_081611

Quote:While there may not be many boosters with such an over-the-top story, Shapiro knows he wasn’t the only fan doling out the under-the-table money. Maybe most damning for the sport is the fact that while he took care of current players, he says Miami coaches never asked him to buy a football recruit. Mainly because they felt it was fruitless.

“Miami is not the school where payouts are made to prospective student athletes,” Shapiro said. “Miami is a private institution, it’s in a transient city. We didn’t have the money to pay recruits. There is so much more money in big public universities. In the SEC, the money is an endless river.

“If Miami relied on cash payoffs for players to come to Miami, they’d be out of business. They’d lose every bidding war.

“Eighty percent of the players came from the area, from Miami-Dade, Overtown, Liberty City, Belle Glade. The other 20 percent fell in love with the city. While the school obviously isn’t in Miami Beach, it’s considered the hottest scene in the country.”

He said he heard all the stories of how other programs recruit from the Miami players who considered going elsewhere. He was also a confidant to various assistant college and high school coaches. And he regularly entertained players from other schools who were friends with Hurricanes.

The reality of college football, he said, is nothing like it’s presented on television. The cheating is rampant.

“It’s everywhere,” he said. “Everywhere that it matters. Most people can’t even understand it.”

He would have more credibility if he named names regarding other programs, this just looks like a dude feeling dissed and seeking some payback. The NCAA is asking Miami to respond to a claim that Shapiro made, saying that he "was told" that he was investigated and that despite the investigation, was still allowed access to the program. So essentially the NCAA is asking Miami to tell them what they found in "their" investigation!

To me, this is the NCAA's way of telling Miami how to end this thing.

(03-30-2013 01:49 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 10:17 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 11:26 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 01:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

+1

This....

There is no doubt they are guilty as sin...I find it funny that every time someone gets caught like USC, Ohio State, Penn State, UNC...now Miami...they blame the NCAA. The NCAA isn't perfect and should have stopped pretending they were, but they are following the leads.

So as much as the NCAA doesn't always do things correctly, these schools are just criticizing the process in order to redirect attention away from their transgressions.

Looks like her panties are wet.

(03-30-2013 03:50 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 01:49 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 10:17 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 11:26 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 01:26 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  My feeling is they did it. Doesn't matter if the NCAA lets them off because someone screwed up. You still did it. Just like OJ, yeah he was found not guilty but everyone know he did it. Same thing here. I don't care what the NCAA says we'll always have the picture of him giving the check the the UM pres and her face as she is drooling over it.

+1

This....

There is no doubt they are guilty as sin...I find it funny that every time someone gets caught like USC, Ohio State, Penn State, UNC...now Miami...they blame the NCAA. The NCAA isn't perfect and should have stopped pretending they were, but they are following the leads.

So as much as the NCAA doesn't always do things correctly, these schools are just criticizing the process in order to redirect attention away from their transgressions.

Looks like her panties are wet.

Oh man, don't draw attention to her moose knuckle!