(04-16-2013 10:14 PM)LouPower Wrote:  This is one of those "so you think you're having a bad day" moments. I was unhappy about SLU's failure on the Big East front, but WSU after their great year this year getting hosed like this is far worse. SLU is stuck in the A-10, but the Shockers have it worse now.

Yeah. Davidson and George Mason look pretty bad when you compare them to the possibility of playing Georgetown and Marquette. But Davidson has been to 3 Elite Eights and won their conference 22 times. George Mason has the Final Four and 4 NCAA tournaments bids within about a decade.

Loyola? The 7th best school in the Horizon League with 4 winning seasons in the last 28 years, along with 0 NCAA or even NIT bids.

The A10 may seem bad to SLU, but the 5-year RPI numbers say that it is MUCH better than the MVC will be. The A10 has 7 teams with an average RPI above 100, the MVC has 2. Additionally, the A10 has just two schools that average being outside the top 150 to the MVC's five. The MVC is going to struggle to put two schools in the tournament and the A10 should still average 3-4.

(04-16-2013 03:50 PM)Downtown Shocker Brown Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 12:33 PM)LouPower Wrote:  The Valley more or less constructively evicted Wichita State with that genius move of Loyola. I cannot begin to do it justice to say how bad that move is.

Either that, or they know something the masses don't.

It became very clear a couple years ago when the Valley tried to add Dallas Baptist as a baseball only member. The "I" schools (Indiana, Iowa, Illinois) rejected based on the cost of having to travel there every other year. They are hurting financially, and several will be able to pay bills in the near future thanks in large part to WSU's Final Four run.

It is sad that the once proud Valley of Death is now the Valley of the Dead.

Even worse is that we are still here.

I know how you feel. We, here at UConn, are stuck in the AAC.

(04-15-2013 09:18 AM)aughnanure Wrote:  

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(04-09-2013 01:25 PM)College Basketball Fan Wrote:  It isn't the smaller public research universities that have the power to block VCU. It is the much larger universities that feel their "brand" would be threatened by a VCU football program (namely Virginia and Virginia Tech). Basically, they control the Board of Regents.

In order for VCU to start a football program, they would need approval from the board of regents. If other Virginia schools felt that a VCU football program would hurt their brand or make them lose money (and VCU has a lot more resources to devote to a program than ODU, with about twice the endowment), then they might feel compelled to lobby the state government so that they would feel compelled to block VCU (using arguments like "it would make our local communities lose money").

The board of regents would also need to vote to allow VCU to join a FBS conference. Then you have funding for a stadium, the additional scholarships,
the matching women's sports, etc. All of which could be filibustered or blocked.

I know that the Board of Regents in Kansas is pretty controlling. They keep the admittance policies at all public institutions at a fairly low level, and tend to promote the interests of the state's flagship institution. For instance, several smaller colleges have been blocked or dissuaded from moving up (from JuCos to a 4-year or from DII to DI). There is a community college near Wichita State with something like 10,000 students that has been looking to expand to a four year college for a while.

Does BCC really want to move up? I know they have a pretty good athletics program and are one of the top JUCO football programs in the country, but I have never heard any talk about them going to a 4 year college.

I have heard rumors that Washburn has thought about moving up to D1. I think that'd be nice for them and the State. Great school and could get into the Summit I'm sure. I know they've competed for D2 championships in basketball.

Washburn is a 'great' school now? Never thought I'd hear that.

What's wrong with Washburn?

Is Washburn good at something? Maybe its my memories of laughing at their commercials all the time in the 90s. I mean, I'm not saying it's terrible, but "great" is a strong adjective to use.

I know they have a pretty strong law school, or at least that's the impression I've always had of it. And they've been one of the top DII basketball schools and played for a couple of national titles. Granted, it would give KS a third school in the NE part of the state, but they're the most likely to be able to make the move. I'm not sure how good their other sports are as I don't follow a ton of what goes on up in that part of the state.

(04-17-2013 07:26 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I know how you feel. We, here at UConn, are stuck in the AAC.

Eventually you will switch a letter. The question will be whether THAT conference survives or not.

Don't we all just love playing realignment musical chairs?

(04-16-2013 10:14 PM)LouPower Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 03:50 PM)Downtown Shocker Brown Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 12:33 PM)LouPower Wrote:  The Valley more or less constructively evicted Wichita State with that genius move of Loyola. I cannot begin to do it justice to say how bad that move is.

Either that, or they know something the masses don't.

It became very clear a couple years ago when the Valley tried to add Dallas Baptist as a baseball only member. The "I" schools (Indiana, Iowa, Illinois) rejected based on the cost of having to travel there every other year. They are hurting financially, and several will be able to pay bills in the near future thanks in large part to WSU's Final Four run.

It is sad that the once proud Valley of Death is now the Valley of the Dead.

Even worse is that we are still here.

This is one of those "so you think you're having a bad day" moments. I was unhappy about SLU's failure on the Big East front, but WSU after their great year this year getting hosed like this is far worse. SLU is stuck in the A-10, but the Shockers have it worse now.

i still have hope slu will get an invite. they seem like a natural fit and are a bridge between creighton and the rst of the BE

(04-09-2013 08:35 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  is there a kind of GOR in the new BE?

I haven't heard anyone mention that, and I strongly doubt that there is one.

(04-17-2013 09:36 AM)College Basketball Fan Wrote:  

(04-17-2013 07:26 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  I know how you feel. We, here at UConn, are stuck in the AAC.

Eventually you will switch a letter. The question will be whether THAT conference survives or not.

Maybe, maybe not. I think UConn would be a great fit for the ACC; in fact, a better fit than Louisville. So don't take this as an anti-UConn remark. But it just honestly seems as if the ACC has made it's choice and is very content with it.

(04-21-2013 09:39 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 10:14 PM)LouPower Wrote:  SLU is stuck in the A-10, but the Shockers have it worse now.

i still have hope slu will get an invite. they seem like a natural fit and are a bridge between creighton and the rst of the BE

Agreed with gosports1 on this. It's just a hunch but I think the Billikens and the Flyers will both get in, and sooner rather than later. We'll see.