http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...legations/

I had found it odd that Arsalan Kazemi filed and was granted a hardship waiver to leave Rice this past offseason. Now, I know why.

Quote:Oregon's Arsalan Kazemi‬ has been a key player in the Ducks' run to the Sweet 16, but while at Rice from 2009-12 he alleged that Owls athletic director Rick Greenspan repeatedly made insulting and discriminating remarks to him, two fellow Middle Eastern players and an assistant coach, and that led to his request for a hardship waiver from the NCAA to be eligible to play this season.

Quote:In Kazemi's waiver request, he claimed that Greenspan told Marcos to "recruit more terrorists" on multiple occasions. He also alleged that when talking in Arabic to another player that Greenspan asked if they were having an "Al-Qaeda meeting."

When Morcos wore a traditional Middle Eastern gown as part of a team function for Halloween, Kazemi alleged in the waiver request that Greenspan told the assistant, "All you need is a backpack and you are ready to bomb the school." On multiple road trips, Kazemi claimed that Greenspan directed airport security to thoroughly search the bags of him, Oraby and Ibrahim because of their Middle Eastern heritage.

Kazemi also accused Greenspan of telling him and other players in January 2012, "We only need one more guy to complete the Axis of Evil."

Another time, Kazemi alleged he was talking in a foreign language to another player and Morcos when Greenspan walked by and told them, "Stop speaking in this language because you could be plotting against us."

Kazemi maintained in his hardship waiver that he and his guardian in the United States approached Braun on several occasions and requested that Braun speak with Greenspan about his comments. Kazemi also claimed that Rice's coaching staff did not grant him special accommodations for matters related to his religion such as prayer, facial hair and diet."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...z2OwPv01N9


Ok, then.

(03-29-2013 10:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...legations/

I had found it odd that Arsalan Kazemi filed and was granted a hardship waiver to leave Rice this past offseason. Now, I know why.

Quote:Oregon's Arsalan Kazemi‬ has been a key player in the Ducks' run to the Sweet 16, but while at Rice from 2009-12 he alleged that Owls athletic director Rick Greenspan repeatedly made insulting and discriminating remarks to him, two fellow Middle Eastern players and an assistant coach, and that led to his request for a hardship waiver from the NCAA to be eligible to play this season.

Quote:In Kazemi's waiver request, he claimed that Greenspan told Marcos to "recruit more terrorists" on multiple occasions. He also alleged that when talking in Arabic to another player that Greenspan asked if they were having an "Al-Qaeda meeting."

When Morcos wore a traditional Middle Eastern gown as part of a team function for Halloween, Kazemi alleged in the waiver request that Greenspan told the assistant, "All you need is a backpack and you are ready to bomb the school." On multiple road trips, Kazemi claimed that Greenspan directed airport security to thoroughly search the bags of him, Oraby and Ibrahim because of their Middle Eastern heritage.

Kazemi also accused Greenspan of telling him and other players in January 2012, "We only need one more guy to complete the Axis of Evil."

Another time, Kazemi alleged he was talking in a foreign language to another player and Morcos when Greenspan walked by and told them, "Stop speaking in this language because you could be plotting against us."

Kazemi maintained in his hardship waiver that he and his guardian in the United States approached Braun on several occasions and requested that Braun speak with Greenspan about his comments. Kazemi also claimed that Rice's coaching staff did not grant him special accommodations for matters related to his religion such as prayer, facial hair and diet."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...z2OwPv01N9


Ok, then.

Guess the Pac isn't inviting Rice anytime soon.

Sounds VERY a-typical for Rice. Either Greenspan is a jerk or the claims are mostly fabrications by the players and former coach to get on winning teams/win a lawsuit. I'd be inclined to believe the latter.

What I don't understand is how this "hardship waiver" situation didn't turn into a full-fledged NCAA investigation. This should be a violation of NCAA bylaw 22.2.3.2 and Article 2.6 of the NCAA Constitution. I guess it could be considered a secondary violation, which would essentially be a report filed with the NCAA, but since the discrimination bylaw is part of the Certification process, I would think that it would be much more than just a run-of-the-mill secondary vioaltion.

(03-29-2013 10:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...legations/

I had found it odd that Arsalan Kazemi filed and was granted a hardship waiver to leave Rice this past offseason. Now, I know why.

Quote:Oregon's Arsalan Kazemi‬ has been a key player in the Ducks' run to the Sweet 16, but while at Rice from 2009-12 he alleged that Owls athletic director Rick Greenspan repeatedly made insulting and discriminating remarks to him, two fellow Middle Eastern players and an assistant coach, and that led to his request for a hardship waiver from the NCAA to be eligible to play this season.

Quote:In Kazemi's waiver request, he claimed that Greenspan told Marcos to "recruit more terrorists" on multiple occasions. He also alleged that when talking in Arabic to another player that Greenspan asked if they were having an "Al-Qaeda meeting."

When Morcos wore a traditional Middle Eastern gown as part of a team function for Halloween, Kazemi alleged in the waiver request that Greenspan told the assistant, "All you need is a backpack and you are ready to bomb the school." On multiple road trips, Kazemi claimed that Greenspan directed airport security to thoroughly search the bags of him, Oraby and Ibrahim because of their Middle Eastern heritage.

Kazemi also accused Greenspan of telling him and other players in January 2012, "We only need one more guy to complete the Axis of Evil."

Another time, Kazemi alleged he was talking in a foreign language to another player and Morcos when Greenspan walked by and told them, "Stop speaking in this language because you could be plotting against us."

Kazemi maintained in his hardship waiver that he and his guardian in the United States approached Braun on several occasions and requested that Braun speak with Greenspan about his comments. Kazemi also claimed that Rice's coaching staff did not grant him special accommodations for matters related to his religion such as prayer, facial hair and diet."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...z2OwPv01N9


Ok, then.

So they recruit middle eastern players to mock them. I'm sure it is overblown. When exactly did he want to pray? Right in the middle of practice? And his Diet? I lived off Celeste pizzas in college. That should be against every religion.

This story is BS and the NCAA being the way they are didn't want no part of this. Take the players side and let them transfer and play right away and hope all goes away. If not the next thing you know Rice University, the Rice AD, Head Coach, and the NCAA would all be under fire for discrimination. Could the Rice AD actually be that stupid (especially in this day and age) we are talking about a career professionl who has been around the block a few times, I serioulsy doubt the man lives in such a bubble that he thinks he can say anything he wants to whoever (especially Muslims) and nothing happens....I don't believe this story for one second.

This story is total BS in my opinion. The only thing I've seen thus far is four people, all muslim accusing of discrimination....no other players either current or former associated with the Rice BB team to side with them, no nothing from anyone or anybody else to back their side.

This is like a broken record only now it's come to college basketball.

Now here is how it usually works in 2013....the accuser in these kind of incidents is always 100% right.... the one in the firing line (the AD) is going to be portrayed as as a bigot and scumbag EVEN IF HE CHALLENGES AND DENIES THE CLAIMS he is going to be portrayed by print and electronic media as 100% GUILTY regardless of facts.


So it's actually quite simple (absent other players or people associated past or presnet siding with the accusers) you either believe the four Muslims (3 players and the guy that recruited them) or the AD and leadership of Rice. ONE OR THE OTHER, NO GREY AREA HERE.

If in fact the allegations are false wouldn't that imply the accusers are the ones discriminating, and based on what. Figure that one out.


Remember that Major that murdered all those soldiers at Fort Hood, TEXAS? The wouldn't even call him a terriost even the senior leadership of the US Army was couching words about the incident, I beleive it was then and still to this day described as work place violence. The media was in on it as well. If you can't even speak up and be honest and forthright against something like that you sure can't for something like the sports illustrated story. They are going to crucify this AD

He should do like Bernie Fince and sue them if in fact he did not say those things.

The story aside, I have an issue with a kid leaving a last place program and in the next year being in the Sweet 16 with a different program....talk about recruiting....Its like Rice was the Triple A affiliate for Oregon.

Not getting on the kid, but there are reason's IMO for the one year transfer rule....and there are way too many exceptions going on...its almost getting like Free Agency...it reeks of professionalism. As well there are lots of programs and kids sitting out that are not able to get these exceptions...it's simply unfair.

(03-29-2013 10:53 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 10:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...legations/

I had found it odd that Arsalan Kazemi filed and was granted a hardship waiver to leave Rice this past offseason. Now, I know why.

Quote:Oregon's Arsalan Kazemi‬ has been a key player in the Ducks' run to the Sweet 16, but while at Rice from 2009-12 he alleged that Owls athletic director Rick Greenspan repeatedly made insulting and discriminating remarks to him, two fellow Middle Eastern players and an assistant coach, and that led to his request for a hardship waiver from the NCAA to be eligible to play this season.

Quote:In Kazemi's waiver request, he claimed that Greenspan told Marcos to "recruit more terrorists" on multiple occasions. He also alleged that when talking in Arabic to another player that Greenspan asked if they were having an "Al-Qaeda meeting."

When Morcos wore a traditional Middle Eastern gown as part of a team function for Halloween, Kazemi alleged in the waiver request that Greenspan told the assistant, "All you need is a backpack and you are ready to bomb the school." On multiple road trips, Kazemi claimed that Greenspan directed airport security to thoroughly search the bags of him, Oraby and Ibrahim because of their Middle Eastern heritage.

Kazemi also accused Greenspan of telling him and other players in January 2012, "We only need one more guy to complete the Axis of Evil."

Another time, Kazemi alleged he was talking in a foreign language to another player and Morcos when Greenspan walked by and told them, "Stop speaking in this language because you could be plotting against us."

Kazemi maintained in his hardship waiver that he and his guardian in the United States approached Braun on several occasions and requested that Braun speak with Greenspan about his comments. Kazemi also claimed that Rice's coaching staff did not grant him special accommodations for matters related to his religion such as prayer, facial hair and diet."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-colleg...z2OwPv01N9


Ok, then.

So they recruit middle eastern players to mock them. I'm sure it is overblown. When exactly did he want to pray? Right in the middle of practice? And his Diet? I lived off Celeste pizzas in college. That should be against every religion.

And in this litigious country, with CAIR firing off lawsuits about anyone who disparages Islam, why was there not a civil rights lawsuit filed about this?

If these allegations are true, then Rice could be liable for a civil rights action and action by the NCAA.

If these allegations are false, then the NCAA looks really really bad for granting this waiver without doing any investigation and could be subject to a defamation suit filed by Greenspan.

(03-29-2013 11:30 AM)Tiger8589 Wrote:  This story is BS and the NCAA being the way they are didn't want no part of this. Take the players side and let them transfer and play right away and hope all goes away. If not the next thing you know Rice University, the Rice AD, Head Coach, and the NCAA would all be under fire for discrimination. Could the Rice AD actually be that stupid (especially in this day and age) we are talking about a career professionl who has been around the block a few times, I serioulsy doubt the man lives in such a bubble that he thinks he can say anything he wants to whoever (especially Muslims) and nothing happens....I don't believe this story for one second.

This story is total BS in my opinion. The only thing I've seen thus far is four people, all muslim accusing of discrimination....no other players either current or former associated with the Rice BB team to side with them, no nothing from anyone or anybody else to back their side.

This is like a broken record only now it's come to college basketball.

Now here is how it usually works in 2013....the accuser in these kind of incidents is always 100% right.... the one in the firing line (the AD) is going to be portrayed as as a bigot and scumbag EVEN IF HE CHALLENGES AND DENIES THE CLAIMS he is going to be portrayed by print and electronic media as 100% GUILTY regardless of facts.


So it's actually quite simple (absent other players or people associated past or presnet siding with the accusers) you either believe the four Muslims (3 players and the guy that recruited them) or the AD and leadership of Rice. ONE OR THE OTHER, NO GREY AREA HERE.

If in fact the allegations are false wouldn't that imply the accusers are the ones discriminating, and based on what. Figure that one out.


Remember that Major that murdered all those soldiers at Fort Hood, TEXAS? The wouldn't even call him a terriost even the senior leadership of the US Army was couching words about the incident, I beleive it was then and still to this day described as work place violence. The media was in on it as well. If you can't even speak up and be honest and forthright against something like that you sure can't for something like the sports illustrated story. They are going to crucify this AD

He should do like Bernie Fince and sue them if in fact he did not say those things.

Wait, do you're saying dont rush to judgement against the coach then you imply the kid and three others are lying?

Oh and NOTHING is EVER black and white. We live in a world of greys.

Rice has many Asian and foreign students. No way a top administrator at Rice is so clueless. Every white guy in America knows we can only make jokes about "others" amongst ourselves these days. ;-)

(03-29-2013 05:49 PM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  Rice has many Asian and foreign students. No way a top administrator at Rice is so clueless. Every white guy in America knows we can only make jokes about "others" amongst ourselves these days. ;-)

Unless you are an Alaskan Congressman...

(03-29-2013 05:49 PM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  Rice has many Asian and foreign students. No way a top administrator at Rice is so clueless. Every white guy in America knows we can only make jokes about "others" amongst ourselves these days. ;-)

Yes. I personally know a recent Arab grad who has only good things to say about Rice.

Wait, Rice has a basketball team? I never knew...

(03-29-2013 06:03 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 05:49 PM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  Rice has many Asian and foreign students. No way a top administrator at Rice is so clueless. Every white guy in America knows we can only make jokes about "others" amongst ourselves these days. ;-)

Unless you are an Alaskan Congressman...

Lol, good one! Yes, I mean that there is no freaking way that a Congressman would be dumb enough to call Hispanics "Wetbacks" in public.

He would be too experienced and savvy to do that, right?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gop-l...itics.html

What a cry baby. I bet 95% of those accusations are pure BS. Kazemi was tired of getting his teeth punched in against CUSA schools every week and wanted to play somewhere else. That's the story.

Foreigner student players can go from one school to another without sitting out a year? Sounds like the same deal where an American can lose their home and be put on a two waiting list for affordable housing but some foreigners move straight to the front of the list and get monetary Supplement and food stamps to boot.
Sorry, but I call BS

It seems legitimate to me. This thread all but proves what people will say. Racism will never die.

(03-30-2013 04:24 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  It seems legitimate to me. This thread all but proves what people will say. Racism will never die.

As long as the government puts immigrants ahead of citizens and promotes inequality, whether through legislation that favors one group above another, or hiring practices that make it nearly impossible for certain groups to obtain certain jobs, it's going to be hard to get away from such thinking. Either practice gives rise to feelings of inequality...

Frankly though, I think the government prefers it that way. They can subdivide the people, pitting one group against another, keeping them from banding together against the real problem in Washington, D.C. As long as we're battling each other, they can pretty much do what they want...

(03-30-2013 04:24 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  It seems legitimate to me. This thread all but proves what people will say. Racism will never die.

please explain