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(03-28-2013 08:38 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  What a frustrating game. Credit to Illinois for forcing so many turnovers and bad shots. Inma, Naama, and Dola were a combined 14/50 (28%). Everyone else was 10/18 (56%).

Couldn't have asked for a better match up than the #5 Big Ten team forced to come to Savage. Have to give Illinois credit for getting it done when the had to ----every time UT fought back to tie the score or even take the lead, the U of I would step it up and get right back to a 6 point lead.

It just goes to show just how tough games like this are and just how magical the 2011 WNIT run really was----the stars don't perfectly align very often and unfortunately they didn't tonight----I was hoping for 30 wins but 29 isn't too bad a season.
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(03-28-2013 08:52 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 08:38 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  What a frustrating game. Credit to Illinois for forcing so many turnovers and bad shots. Inma, Naama, and Dola were a combined 14/50 (28%). Everyone else was 10/18 (56%).

Couldn't have asked for a better match up than the #5 Big Ten team forced to come to Savage. Have to give Illinois credit for getting it done when the had to ----every time UT fought back to tie the score or even take the lead, the U of I would step it up and get right back to a 6 point lead.

It just goes to show just how tough games like this are and just how magical the 2011 WNIT run really was----the stars don't perfectly align very often and unfortunately they didn't tonight----I was hoping for 30 wins but 29 isn't too bad a season.

They did their homework- those lazy cross court passes that got us easy threes against the Prairie Views or SIU-Es got layups for Illinois after steals. Naama's sig spin move got her cut off right at the baseline without even a need for a post defender to pick her up. They closed off penetration in the first half and made us shoot threes which we don't do well. They had every answer-can't say we didn't play well-we did off and on but TOs killed us which is pretty rare for this team.
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(03-28-2013 06:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  How does Jim Heller confuse Naama and Inma?

He is too busy pretending to be on the Food Network (biscuits, hot potato, pancake) to pay attention to names.
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(03-28-2013 09:12 PM)djsfw Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 06:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  How does Jim Heller confuse Naama and Inma?

He is too busy pretending to be on the Food Network (biscuits, hot potato, pancake) to pay attention to names.

Are partridges food?
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I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.
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(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

Don't confuse Illinois with some slouch team- the biggest reason we played poorly was dressed in blue and orange.
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Illinois has some very good players, but I think they have some superb coaching to go with it. It seemed like they drilled right down to our tendencies and were always in the way of the things the Rockets like to do. Couple that with what looked to me like a bad night for Naama (everybody has them) and it was an uphill battle all the way. The ties and leads were thrilling but, man, Illinois figured out how to take it right back. We had our chances, and the energy, but too many ill advised passes and too many shots that didn't fall. A good effort against a really strong opponent.
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(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

This team has lived by its defense all year and it has usually been enough to prevail but in Cleveland and tonight, the offense just wasn't there quite enough in the final stretch to put them over the top. On those occasions where the offense was really on the team was scary good but most of the time the D carried the team and they were still good, but not scary good.
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(03-28-2013 08:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 08:52 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 08:38 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  What a frustrating game. Credit to Illinois for forcing so many turnovers and bad shots. Inma, Naama, and Dola were a combined 14/50 (28%). Everyone else was 10/18 (56%).

Couldn't have asked for a better match up than the #5 Big Ten team forced to come to Savage. Have to give Illinois credit for getting it done when the had to ----every time UT fought back to tie the score or even take the lead, the U of I would step it up and get right back to a 6 point lead.

It just goes to show just how tough games like this are and just how magical the 2011 WNIT run really was----the stars don't perfectly align very often and unfortunately they didn't tonight----I was hoping for 30 wins but 29 isn't too bad a season.

They did their homework- those lazy cross court passes that got us easy threes against the Prairie Views or SIU-Es got layups for Illinois after steals. Naama's sig spin move got her cut off right at the baseline without even a need for a post defender to pick her up. They closed off penetration in the first half and made us shoot threes which we don't do well. They had every answer-can't say we didn't play well-we did off and on but TOs killed us which is pretty rare for this team.

Agreed 100%
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(03-28-2013 09:29 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

Don't confuse Illinois with some slouch team- the biggest reason we played poorly was dressed in blue and orange.

But the blue and orange had nothing to do with us not being able to make the ball go in on easy shots. We just weren't hitting. Shots that ALWAYS go in just couldn't find their way.
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(03-29-2013 08:11 AM)djsfw Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:29 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

Don't confuse Illinois with some slouch team- the biggest reason we played poorly was dressed in blue and orange.

But the blue and orange had nothing to do with us not being able to make the ball go in on easy shots. We just weren't hitting. Shots that ALWAYS go in just couldn't find their way.

When you rush 90% of your shots because you're being harassed you tend to rush the other 10 because you THINK you'll be harassed. Not saying we didn't blow some easy shots but that mindset of "I gotta shoot quick" permeated the offense and led to some of those misses, IMO.
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We're missing that one spark from past years teams...take Courtney Ingersoll or Haylie Linn for example. I remember when we needed that one big 3, either of those 2 were there to hit it. Didn't really have a Courtney or Haylie on the team this year.
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(03-29-2013 08:49 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-29-2013 08:11 AM)djsfw Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:29 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

Don't confuse Illinois with some slouch team- the biggest reason we played poorly was dressed in blue and orange.

But the blue and orange had nothing to do with us not being able to make the ball go in on easy shots. We just weren't hitting. Shots that ALWAYS go in just couldn't find their way.

When you rush 90% of your shots because you're being harassed you tend to rush the other 10 because you THINK you'll be harassed. Not saying we didn't blow some easy shots but that mindset of "I gotta shoot quick" permeated the offense and led to some of those misses, IMO.

Poor shooting was a major problem but their were also 24 turnovers. Rockets had 7 turnovers in the first 8 minutes! And many of the turnovers in the game were unforced. Coach called them "silly" turonvers after the game. We got away with 22 turnovers against Youngstown State but you can't do that against better competition.
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(03-28-2013 09:33 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 09:21 PM)djsfw Wrote:  I cannot believe how much this resembled the MAC tournament game vs CMU. How in the world ALL of our players could be cold on the same night is beyond me. I adore Naama, but she was totally ineffective tonight. Couldn't hit anything at all, and we know that is not normal for her. Inma wasn't much better. I was very frustrated with our lack of rebounding skills tonight. What in the world happened? Lazy play once again in my opinion. They didn't do anything well tonight. Sad to see that happen. Still I LOVE this team and am very happy they won so many games. I just wish they could have gotten the job done at the tournament.

This team has lived by its defense all year and it has usually been enough to prevail but in Cleveland and tonight, the offense just wasn't there quite enough in the final stretch to put them over the top. On those occasions where the offense was really on the team was scary good but most of the time the D carried the team and they were still good, but not scary good.

I agree. This team's success was largely built on an outstanding and hard working defense. When the offense clicked they were unbeatable. But if you look at the season stats game by game you will see that the best offensive efforts were at the beginning of the season. Their best offensive effort might have been in the Dayton game which would explain how they were able to keep that game so close.
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(03-29-2013 11:10 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  We're missing that one spark from past years teams...take Courtney Ingersoll or Haylie Linn for example. I remember when we needed that one big 3, either of those 2 were there to hit it. Didn't really have a Courtney or Haylie on the team this year.

Not having one of the top 3 point shooters in the courtny made a difference didn't it? 03-wink
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