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RE: Tuxedo Yoda supposedly reports a "Done Deal" with SEC and BXII realignment
(03-27-2013 11:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  



Helluva a drug...

Like dogs chasing the old fake throw...

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(03-28-2013 03:24 PM)bearcat29 Wrote:  What does scare me is ESPN owns UCONN and UC for pennies on the dollar. What incentive is there for them to go from $2 mill to $20 million?

I have no idea what the B12 will do (most say they won't), but I can see a UCF/USF being attractive addition with big potential if they can't get any ACC teams to jump.

ESPN is also owned by Disney. I think there could be some side benefits of a strong program in Orlando. More visitors to Orlando mean more money to Disney.
03-28-2013 03:49 PM
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RE: Tuxedo Yoda supposedly reports a "Done Deal" with SEC and BXII realignment
(03-28-2013 02:52 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 02:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Don't be so literal. Most folks posting here don't believe the rumor. I know I don't. But if taken as a hypothetical problem then the answer would be "if" (operative word here) Miami is moving "then" (another operative word) it is because they know of other movement that will happen.

Also as a hypothetical, Miami isn't going to agree to be the only southeastern school in the Big 12, nor would a prideful program like Texas put itself in a situation where the Aggies could say, "Ha ha, Horns, your league couldn't get Florida or Florida State and you had to settle for South Florida and Central Florida." It's far-fetched under any circumstances, but the only way it would ever be workable is to do something like the Pac tried to do, and poach 4-6 teams at once so that the newbies have a block of neighbors when they join a relatively faraway league.

If the Big 12 had any designs on ever doing such a thing, they'd be trying to get at least Miami/FSU/GT/Clemson together, which is very unlikely because the B12 doesn't have the gravitational pull of the SEC or Big Ten.

Wedge, in your hypothetical there is only one reason for the Big 12 to expand to only 12 with Miami being one of them. That reason would be that the Big 10 and SEC would each have moved to 20 off of the ACC leaving only Miami as any kind of name left to take.

Let's assume a really wild idea here for a moment. Let's say the Big 10 gets Georgia Tech, Virginia, Duke, Boston College (or Connecticut), Clemson, and Florida State and the SEC gets Virginia Tech, North Carolina, N.C. State (requirement for UNC), Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and West Virginia.

Both stand at 20 each. The PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Miami to get to 20. By eliminating the extra conference the divided share of the playoff money now increases all 60 teams earnings by 2 million more per year. We have three large market conferences comprising large swaths of the nation, each with 4 regional divisions of 5, and with the PAC having access into both Texas and Florida. The playoffs would be largely internal within the 3 conferences and each year there would be 3 conference champs and 1 at large for the playoffs.

Miami has to fly everywhere anyway so their location has less relevance to realignment geography than any other continental school. Notre Dame would be able to remain a hybrid by affiliating with a division of one conference and playing the remainder against the other two conferences. They would play 5 games against their division (which is their entry into the playoffs) and alternate 4 and 3 games against the other two conferences. Each conference would play 10 conference games and 2 out of conference games each year.

Like I said a wild idea, but the only reason I could think of for just Miami to join the Big 12.
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(03-28-2013 07:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  UCF and USF to the Big XII is HILARIOUS.

Why is it hilarious?
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(03-28-2013 03:45 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  
(03-27-2013 11:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  



Helluva a drug...

Like dogs chasing the old fake throw...

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Exactly, but bored dogs who haven't had any exercise in a few weeks will chase anything and have a good time doing it.
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(03-28-2013 01:59 PM)Jericho Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 01:48 PM)Jericho Wrote:  The Miami thing makes no sense. They've been dying to get into the ACC for a while. Now that they're there, they are going to leave for the Big 12?? There's a reason ACC schools don't want to go Big 12.

Jericho, if Miami was moving that would indicate the depth and breadth of changes on the horizon for the ACC. Otherwise your assessment would be correct. If Miami is moving it is because almost everyone else is too.

Where are these other schools moving to? And if all these schools are moving, why is there not one reporter who's heard anything from any school except some random dude on the Internet? I maintain that it makes no sense.

Who says reporters havent. Virtually every opinion peice has stated clearly that they believe some big realignment moves are coming. Most AD's and conference commissioners have said the same thing. None have been very specific, but it seems like numerous conversations are going on and at some point, some will bear fruit. The specifics of which teams go where and when it occurrs seem to be the issue--I havnt seen many reporters, AD's, or even commisioners who seem to think the environment is now stable. Most seem to believe the ACC will be significantly affected.
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(03-28-2013 03:54 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 07:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  UCF and USF to the Big XII is HILARIOUS.

Why is it hilarious?
I agree. It's not the least bit hilarious. UCF has a huge enrollment. Maybe the Big XII is allergic to scenery...
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RE: Tuxedo Yoda supposedly reports a "Done Deal" with SEC and BXII realignment
(03-28-2013 07:17 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 03:54 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 07:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  UCF and USF to the Big XII is HILARIOUS.

Why is it hilarious?
I agree. It's not the least bit hilarious. UCF has a huge enrollment. Maybe the Big XII is allergic to scenery...

USF, UCF, Miami to B12 would rock! I would expect most games at RayJay would be sold out. Marshall moving anywhere else but CDOA? That's a JOKE
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(03-29-2013 07:17 AM)Atlanta Bull Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 07:17 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 03:54 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(03-28-2013 07:54 AM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  UCF and USF to the Big XII is HILARIOUS.

Why is it hilarious?
I agree. It's not the least bit hilarious. UCF has a huge enrollment. Maybe the Big XII is allergic to scenery...

USF, UCF, Miami to B12 would rock! I would expect most games at RayJay would be sold out. Marshall moving anywhere else but CDOA? That's a JOKE

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