Most expect that WKU will replace Tulsa in CUSA but why is this Texas St Rivals writer saying that the Sun Belt is expecting to lose 2 and will invite JMU?

Brent Thibodeaux ‏@BrentThibodeaux 1h As of now the #SunBelt is preparing to lose two more schools. #JMU will get one of the conference invites.

Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

There is no defending EMU... but the rest in 2012:

WMU: beat UConn (Big East)
CMU: beat Iowa (Big Ten)
Toledo: beat Cincinnati (Big East), ranked in top 25 briefly before losing to Ball State

Again we are comparing this to New Mexico State, Idaho and maybe what Troy in a western division of the Sun Belt. Major upgrade. Not to mention CMU beat a Sun Belt team in their bowl this year.

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

Toledo beat Cincy and was ranked this year! CMU who won a bowl game, against a Belt Team, Ball State also went Bowling.

The MAC and Belt were pretty much on par this season and the MAC-East was pulling down the West in large part due to Akron and UMass.

(03-27-2013 10:13 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

Toledo beat Cincy and was ranked this year! CMU who won a bowl game, against a Belt Team, Ball State also went Bowling.

The MAC and Belt were pretty much on par this season and the MAC-East was pulling down the West in large part due to Akron and UMass.

Well lets not forget about Buffalo in the MAC East too, definitely in that Akron and UMass range... On the flip side though the East was better than usual at the top with Ohio ranked in the Top 25 after beating Penn State and Kent State cracked the Top 25 after beating Rutgers.

(03-27-2013 10:21 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:13 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

Toledo beat Cincy and was ranked this year! CMU who won a bowl game, against a Belt Team, Ball State also went Bowling.

The MAC and Belt were pretty much on par this season and the MAC-East was pulling down the West in large part due to Akron and UMass.

Well lets not forget about Buffalo in the MAC East too, definitely in that Akron and UMass range... On the flip side though the East was better than usual at the top with Ohio ranked in the Top 25 after beating Penn State and Kent State cracked the Top 25 after beating Rutgers.

Buffalo finished Ahead of Miami and beat WMU last year... We also lost to Toledo by just 5, Ohio and UConn by just 7, ....

Yes we were very, very, very, very bad but we were not the smoking crater that we have been the past couple of years. We lose the right side of our O line this season so we might slide back, but I hope not..

Just played our worst game of the season against NIU.

(03-27-2013 09:53 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

We were kicking your butts until we ran out of plays scripted by Hugh Freeze.

(03-27-2013 10:27 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:21 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:13 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

Buffalo finished Ahead of Miami and beat WMU last year... We also lost to Toledo by just 5, Ohio and UConn by just 7, ....

Yes we were very, very, very, very bad but we were not the smoking crater that we have been the past couple of years. We lose the right side of our O line this season so we might slide back, but I hope not..

Just played our worst game of the season against NIU.

I still remember that 2011 game where you staged the comeback only to shank the XP and give us the win.

(03-27-2013 10:29 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:53 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

We were kicking your butts until we ran out of plays scripted by Hugh Freeze.

You guys went up early but then we up 31 unanswered and put the game away. You can play the what if game all day but that's why you play four quarters. Also helped that we had a seasoned QB who went on to be drafted by the Colts and currently backs up Luck so that definitely was going in our favor.

(03-27-2013 10:10 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

I know NIU is in the west but, playing E,W,C Michigan's, Toledo?

There is no defending EMU... but the rest in 2012:

WMU: beat UConn (Big East)
CMU: beat Iowa (Big Ten)
Toledo: beat Cincinnati (Big East), ranked in top 25 briefly before losing to Ball State

Again we are comparing this to New Mexico State, Idaho and maybe what Troy in a western division of the Sun Belt. Major upgrade. Not to mention CMU beat a Sun Belt team in their bowl this year.

Yeah, Ok....thanks for refreshing my memory. They would balance the West division. Especially now that Tulsa is going to the nBE/C-TBA and not UMASS.

(03-27-2013 10:35 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:29 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:53 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

We were kicking your butts until we ran out of plays scripted by Hugh Freeze.

You guys went up early but then we up 31 unanswered and put the game away. You can play the what if game all day but that's why you play four quarters. Also helped that we had a seasoned QB who went on to be drafted by the Colts and currently backs up Luck so that definitely was going in our favor.

Also helped that your guys weren't being coached by volunteers who first met the team in December. Certainly didn't hurt that the ACC refs declared the fake kick unreviewable when the spot of the ball on the line to gain is always reviewable.

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I would be surprised by this, unless they were to add another team this far south/west of the current MAC footprint?

(03-27-2013 10:56 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:35 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:29 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:53 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

We were kicking your butts until we ran out of plays scripted by Hugh Freeze.

You guys went up early but then we up 31 unanswered and put the game away. You can play the what if game all day but that's why you play four quarters. Also helped that we had a seasoned QB who went on to be drafted by the Colts and currently backs up Luck so that definitely was going in our favor.

Also helped that your guys weren't being coached by volunteers who first met the team in December. Certainly didn't hurt that the ACC refs declared the fake kick unreviewable when the spot of the ball on the line to gain is always reviewable.

That one was a bad call, admittedly. I think the ballcarrier got to within about a yard of the first down. Looked like something a Big East official would have done. But NIU won by more than a TD.

(03-27-2013 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:44 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:19 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Arkansas State has been flirting with the MAC

I don't know why.
Playing in the West division of the MAC would be substandard to the Sunbelt.

Umm The MAC West put a team in the Orange Bowl Last Season.... And has had several teams in the top25 over the past decade. The MAC East is the weak link in MAC football.

Even in the MAC East Miami, BG, Kent and Ohio have all made the Top 25 in the last 10 years with Akron and Buffalo winning MAC Championships.

The addition of Arkansas State would help the MAC land the Independence Bowl and backup agreements across the south plus balance the football divisions.

(03-27-2013 10:32 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:27 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:21 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:13 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:04 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

Buffalo finished Ahead of Miami and beat WMU last year... We also lost to Toledo by just 5, Ohio and UConn by just 7, ....

Yes we were very, very, very, very bad but we were not the smoking crater that we have been the past couple of years. We lose the right side of our O line this season so we might slide back, but I hope not..

Just played our worst game of the season against NIU.

I still remember that 2011 game where you staged the comeback only to shank the XP and give us the win.

Vintage Quinn football.. Our Senior Punter wsa doing the place kicking duties that year even though we brough in a kicker... After that kick the freshman got his chance the next game and is one of the most solid kickers the team has ever had.

(03-27-2013 11:22 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:56 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:35 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:29 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 09:53 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Yeah because a MAC West team played in the Orange Bowl last year and four of the MAC West teams have been ranked at least once in the Top 25 over the last 5 years (NIU, Toledo, Ball State, CMU). Remind again how many times even one Sun Belt team was ranked, period. Not to mention NIU took down ASU in their bowl matchup last year. There would be plenty of suitable competition for them if they made the move. Certainly more than Sun Belt West with New Mexico State and Idaho.

We were kicking your butts until we ran out of plays scripted by Hugh Freeze.

You guys went up early but then we up 31 unanswered and put the game away. You can play the what if game all day but that's why you play four quarters. Also helped that we had a seasoned QB who went on to be drafted by the Colts and currently backs up Luck so that definitely was going in our favor.

Also helped that your guys weren't being coached by volunteers who first met the team in December. Certainly didn't hurt that the ACC refs declared the fake kick unreviewable when the spot of the ball on the line to gain is always reviewable.

That one was a bad call, admittedly. I think the ballcarrier got to within about a yard of the first down. Looked like something a Big East official would have done. But NIU won by more than a TD.

ACC / Big East what's the difference? Bottomline don't trust refs from leagues that don't take football seriously.

One of these days I'm going to an ASU bowl game and we'll have the same staff we had at the start of the season.