Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

(03-22-2013 04:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not what I expected. Losing to a really non athletic team like Creighton.
Very surprised that we did not trap them or get any fast break points.
Preseason ranked in all of they publications, lots of hype, etc. No elite 8, no final fours, not sure if next season is any better.

I can see next year being better. Never thought I'd say that. But I think we'll have more guys who can score, and the D will still be good. We were pretty much Cash and S K this year. Alot of people expected more from Rubles and he was overrated.

I can see whoever is PG next season giving us some offense. The guards will give offense. Thomas obviously will be a factor. Hopefully Lawrence gets to play. Not sure how much Strickland will play, but he's another weapon.

We theoretically should have a better offense next season.

You can't win if you can't hit the broad side of a barn. I have never seen so offensively challenged. They remind of watching the Mariners the past 3 years.

If this team could hit anything...ANYTHING...within 12 feet of the basket we are talking about a W today. Defense was there. I hoped that with the tournament that we would have a couple of guys find a shooting touch. Nothing. Again.

We got what we deserved. I cannot fault Mick except that he recruited them. Beyond that, you have to put the rock in the cylinder.

Oh well. I am oddly just mildly disappointed. I picked Creighton to win this one. I hoped I would be wrong.

Goodbye Big East.

To be better we are going to need the new blood to be able to contribute at a high level right away. Sorry, this team still will not have a big man who can score down low, something this squad needed desperately.

(03-22-2013 04:29 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  To be better we are going to need the new blood to be able to contribute at a high level right away. Sorry, this team still will not have a big man who can score down low, something this squad needed desperately.

At least Strickland is better than anyone we have right now.

This team played with great effort all year, hence the defense. They just could not make shots. Key for next year will be the emergence of Guyn/Davis III at PG or an incoming freshman. I think Guyn has the potential to be a solid pg. We will not need a scoring PG in my opinion with the wings we will have. Guyn will be a more defensive PG, Davis III being more offensive. Kilpatrick/Thomas/Lawrence being at the 2/3. The center position is troublesome. I dont think Nyarsuk can move his feet at this level to be effective consistently. Gaines has to improve. Losing Mboji is huge. He was an amazing shot blocker.

For at least the time being, UC basketball is entering a whole new era since the Big East is no more. It will be hard to tell how much better UC will be next year because we will be drilling Conference USA teams and the challenges will be few and far between. I think people are overlooking this. We'll probably 'appear' to be very good.

Hold on tight next year. It will be a step back. We have solid freshmen but not UK types that will come in and contribute right away. Even Lance Stephenson couldn't carry this team to a tourney. We have no PG, no C, no PF and no SG. We have some 3's in SK and Thomas (let's be honest that's what they are cause they certainly aren't SGs or PGs) and a 3 in Lawrence as a Freshmen. All other positions are untested or low caliber.

Who runs the point? JDIII, Guyn? Meh
The 2 is SK even though he really isn't a shooting guard. He's not even a 30% shooter.
3 is Thomas
4 probably Lawrence
5 probably Strickland

That's a team that isn't going to make the tourney.

I think it is over simplifying things to say this team could not make shots. This team could not run offense. It took bad too many bad shots, it took too many shots they weren't capable of making. Teams that don't run good offense tend to miss a lot of shot. Kilpatrick's shooting percentages for the year tell so much of the story. A guy with touch as good a Kilpatrick should not shoot 30% from three and under 40% from the field. This team missed shots, because it ran bad offense. That simple.

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think it is over simplifying things to say this team could not make shots. This team could not run offense. It took bad too many bad shots, it took too many shots they weren't capable of making. Teams that don't run good offense tend to miss a lot of shot. Kilpatrick's shooting percentages for the year tell so much of the story. A guy with touch as good a Kilpatrick should not shoot 30% from three and under 40% from the field. This team missed shots, because it ran bad offense. That simple.

Very true. The lack of a consistent player I think really hurt the ability to run a lot of what Cronin may want to run.

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Hold on tight next year. It will be a step back. We have solid freshmen but not UK types that will come in and contribute right away. Even Lance Stephenson couldn't carry this team to a tourney. We have no PG, no C, no PF and no SG. We have some 3's in SK and Thomas (let's be honest that's what they are cause they certainly aren't SGs or PGs) and a 3 in Lawrence as a Freshmen. All other positions are untested or low caliber.

Who runs the point? JDIII, Guyn? Meh
The 2 is SK even though he really isn't a shooting guard. He's not even a 30% shooter.
3 is Thomas
4 probably Lawrence
5 probably Strickland

That's a team that isn't going to make the tourney.

I'm praying we find a transfer that could contribute, or maybe a JUCO, but JUCO's are not what they once were.

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think it is over simplifying things to say this team could not make shots. This team could not run offense. It took bad too many bad shots, it took too many shots they weren't capable of making. Teams that don't run good offense tend to miss a lot of shot. Kilpatrick's shooting percentages for the year tell so much of the story. A guy with touch as good a Kilpatrick should not shoot 30% from three and under 40% from the field. This team missed shots, because it ran bad offense. That simple.

Yep. There's a reason why McDermott shoots as well as he does. He doesn't force shots and gets good looks. That's the difference between a good player and a great one.

(03-22-2013 04:47 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  I'm praying we find a transfer that could contribute, or maybe a JUCO, but JUCO's are not what they once were.

See: Rubles.

And are we tired of the team shooting 58% on free throws or whatever it is.

(03-22-2013 04:47 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  I'm praying we find a transfer that could contribute, or maybe a JUCO, but JUCO's are not what they once were.

So true. See Rubles, Titus.

(03-22-2013 04:40 PM)BearcatShane09 Wrote:  For at least the time being, UC basketball is entering a whole new era since the Big East is no more. It will be hard to tell how much better UC will be next year because we will be drilling Conference USA teams and the challenges will be few and far between. I think people are overlooking this. We'll probably 'appear' to be very good.

Our league next year will include Louisville, Memphis, UConn, and Temple thats 8 very difficult games. Rutgers and USF have been mid level to lower level Big East teams that always play UC tough. UC hasn't won at USF since C-USA. Thats 4 more somewhat difficult games. UCF has been upper level C-USA, Houston was good enough to beat Texas earlier this week, and SMU has Larry Brown.

Overall I see 8 very difficult games, 4 to 6 in the middle, and 4 should be cupcakes. Isn't going to be easy next season. The year after that when ECU and Tulane it becomes a little more like C-USA circa 2000.

I thought Thomas and Rubles gave us a lot hope that next years team will be much better than people think. With the new kids coming in, I actually think the potential talent level will be higher. Not sure David or Kelvin belong on the roster.

I didn't see one second of the game, but from your comments it sounds like it was a microcosm of the season.

1. I hate to sound mean but Mbodj leaving is addiction by subtraction.

2. Is our third center, name escapes me, good enough to stick around?

3. Too bad we never really saw a healthy cashmere.

4. Jaquon Parker turned out to be a decent player, I think he will be missed.

We have too many guys on this team that do a lot of things okay but not one thing really well. Could we please recruit some guys that can shoot the rock? Please?
Thank you Bearcats and especially seniors for your efforts.

(03-22-2013 04:27 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  I can see next year being better. Never thought I'd say that. But I think we'll have more guys who can score, and the D will still be good. We were pretty much Cash and S K this year. Alot of people expected more from Rubles and he was overrated.

I can see whoever is PG next season giving us some offense. The guards will give offense. Thomas obviously will be a factor. Hopefully Lawrence gets to play. Not sure how much Strickland will play, but he's another weapon.

We theoretically should have a better offense next season.

I think it's got to be hard to not have a better offense next season; otherwise we're in big trouble.

I hope next year Rubles realizes he shouldn't be shooting jump shots. EVER.

(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Hold on tight next year. It will be a step back. We have solid freshmen but not UK types that will come in and contribute right away. Even Lance Stephenson couldn't carry this team to a tourney. We have no PG, no C, no PF and no SG. We have some 3's in SK and Thomas (let's be honest that's what they are cause they certainly aren't SGs or PGs) and a 3 in Lawrence as a Freshmen. All other positions are untested or low caliber.

Who runs the point? JDIII, Guyn? Meh
The 2 is SK even though he really isn't a shooting guard. He's not even a 30% shooter.
3 is Thomas
4 probably Lawrence
5 probably Strickland

That's a team that isn't going to make the tourney.

This guy is all negative all the time. He really is tiresome to read on this board