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Who needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
MWC will provide "western" content for ESPN


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ights-deal
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RE: Woo needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.
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(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.



* I think the recruiting pools are undervalued because recruiting rankings are largely "popularity" rankings- i.e. the more schools interested in a kid, the more hype (stars) they get. In the south, midwest and the east, there are tons of schools recruiting the same recruiting fields, but not many of the midwest, south and east schools recruit out west. So many kids fly under the radar out west. The result is lower profile players that have the same ability as the more "popular" players out east.
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RE: Who needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
(03-22-2013 08:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  MWC will provide "western" content for ESPN


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ights-deal

It a great deal for ESPN...They get decent football and very good basketball for only 10% of the price they would have to pay for the Pac 12...Boise State in Football/SDSU, New Mexico-(even though the stink in the tournament), Colorado State & UNLV.
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(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  MWC will provide "western" content for ESPN


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ights-deal

It a great deal for ESPN...They get decent football and very good basketball for only 10% of the price they would have to pay for the Pac 12...Boise State in Football/SDSU, New Mexico-(even though the stink in the tournament), Colorado State & UNLV.

Thats not what they showed yesterday. People might be a little more apprehensive of picking them next year. Also the committee might pick up on their little trick to inflate their RPI. Most playing 2 non-D1 schools with 2 playing just 1 non D1.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...te-broncos

Corban? Walla Walla?

Go through all of the MWC and you'll see multiple schools where ESPN doesn't even have a logo for.
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RE: Who needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
Well I guess it gives them more exposure, but only $18 million per year and Boise will get as big chunk of that. Probably equate out to about $1 million a year for the other 11 dwarfs.

Someone correct me if I am wrong
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RE: Who needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  MWC will provide "western" content for ESPN


http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ights-deal

It a great deal for ESPN...They get decent football and very good basketball for only 10% of the price they would have to pay for the Pac 12...Boise State in Football/SDSU, New Mexico-(even though the stink in the tournament), Colorado State & UNLV.

ESPN does pay for the Pac-12 -- they show 22 Pac-12 FB games per year, the same number that Fox broadcasts.

The MWC deal includes every Boise State home game? What is that bonus paid for TV games? Isn't it $300,000 per team for each weeknight game and $500,000 for Saturday games? Boise is going to be making more money on TV rights than any other "non-contract" school except BYU.
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(03-22-2013 10:58 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Well I guess it gives them more exposure, but only $18 million per year and Boise will get as big chunk of that. Probably equate out to about $1 million a year for the other 11 dwarfs.

Someone correct me if I am wrong

About 1 million base for everyone; rest divided by appearances. Boise minimum bonus 900K according to idaho statesman. If Boise plays in every bonus game max would be 3 million for them (6 million/2). Probably in reality they'll play in maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of the bonus exposure games, meaning they get roughly 2.5 - 3 million total. A few schools will get in the 1.5-2 million range. Weakest schools more like 1.0-1.5 million.
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RE: Who needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
How many basketball teams from the future leftovers conference will make it to the NCAA tourney? How many made it for the MWC this year? At the mid-major level where every dollar counts, that is a much bigger deal when comparing the two conferences.

A school like Houston has to take that into account too.
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RE: Woo needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.
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RE: Woo needs the PAC...ESPN inks long term deal with the MWC
(03-23-2013 10:50 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.

I'll agree and for the short-term it'll BSU's gig. I expect the conference to develop more stronger programs. With the 'merger' of the WAC only the PAC-12 is in the area. One thing to note is that even in the old days were the WAC was #2, they still had the Big West to compete against for football. Now that there are only 2 FBS conferences in the West, I see the MW gaining more ground and hopefully after this TV contract is up, that the value will be fully realized.
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(03-23-2013 12:01 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(03-23-2013 10:50 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.

I'll agree and for the short-term it'll BSU's gig. I expect the conference to develop more stronger programs. With the 'merger' of the WAC only the PAC-12 is in the area. One thing to note is that even in the old days were the WAC was #2, they still had the Big West to compete against for football. Now that there are only 2 FBS conferences in the West, I see the MW gaining more ground and hopefully after this TV contract is up, that the value will be fully realized.
I believe BSU may be a coaching change away from Mediocrity... Guess we will see down the road...
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(03-23-2013 10:50 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.

The WAC was never anything.

Boise State was the number two conference out west and that's the truth of it all.
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(03-23-2013 02:23 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(03-23-2013 10:50 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.

The WAC was never anything.

Boise State was the number two conference out west and that's the truth of it all.

Im pretty sure the WAC was once something. I have a memory of it existing.
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(03-23-2013 04:33 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(03-23-2013 02:23 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(03-23-2013 10:50 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:52 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  
(03-22-2013 08:19 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  You should really check the public opinion of the MWC.

And not the anti Big East/A12 masses on this message board, heck click the comments on that article. Boise is going to be almost expected to win that conference every year and the other teams are there to just provide matchups for Boise.

Boise will be the top dog for sure, but having followed the MWC closely, I can say that I see potential for that conference to continue to produce up and coming programs. I think an important point for those in the south and east to understand is that the recruiting pool in the mountains and the west is significantly undervalued on the "market"*, and the product on the field is consistently underestimated. There will be other Boises or Utahs to rise up, especially with the WAC no longer providing competition for resources. Also, in general there is less pro sports competition and split allegiances of populations as there is out east. It's a perfect "primordial soup" for development of football programs like Boise, IMO, and I expect there to be others that develop.

The MWC has essentially become the WAC. The WAC was once the #2 in the West and had some memorable football. The MWC has simply absorbed the WAC into it to stay alive. Other than that I agree with on your other statements about the talent and teams developing. Right now though, this contract does seem to be about Boise and the eleven dwarves.

The WAC was never anything.

Boise State was the number two conference out west and that's the truth of it all.

Im pretty sure the WAC was once something. I have a memory of it existing.

WAC was at one time, Utah, BYU, Arizona, Arizona State, Wyoming, New Mexico, UTEP, and CSU

The founding members were: Utah, BYU, Arizona, Arizona State, Wyoming, and New Mexico,

The point that the PAC 12 Network sucks content and with Fox having part of the PAC TV deal this has opened up some slots for the MWC
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