Mike O'Brien needs to compensate Tricia Cullop not only for her wins, but also for the crowds UT is drawing. The last I saw (2011) she had a base salary of $193K which at the time was at the top of the MAC. The increased attendance would more than pay for an increase to, let's say $250K, plus a small pay boost for assistants.

That salary probably won't keep her from taking a "big-time" job with big money, but would be a strong show of support that may keep her here.

Totally agree

Up her base and bonus her $1 for every but in the seat during the season. That would be a tangible number

That's kinda where the decision gets made...do we want to build the womens' version of a Butler or Gonzaga? We're not there...but if we don't make some intentional decisions at the University level, then someone else--maybe even in the MAC--will, and we'll just be another "good" mid-major women's basketball program.

I think Coach Cullop would stay, if the investments are made, until her "dream job" opens up...and that, of course, assumes that she continues to build the program such that she remains a top candidate for that "dream job". Right now, even with a WNIT championship, with no NCAA bids let alone a win in the NCAA, I think she's really only on the radar of some lower-level "big" schools--ones whose programs are basically a mess. I suppose she could choose to go to the worst program at an ACC/Big East/SEC/Big 10 & work to build them up, but the risk she faces is that if she isn't successful, she may, for argument's sake, "end" her career there rather than keep moving up.

(03-19-2013 05:24 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Mike O'Brien needs to compensate Tricia Cullop not only for her wins, but also for the crowds UT is drawing. The last I saw (2011) she had a base salary of $193K which at the time was at the top of the MAC. The increased attendance would more than pay for an increase to, let's say $250K, plus a small pay boost for assistants.

That salary probably won't keep her from taking a "big-time" job with big money, but would be a strong show of support that may keep her here.

Found this online by searching ... just for a more accurate Number.here

Cullop M Tricia University of Toledo Head Women's Basketball Coach Basketball - Women $278,838.32

(03-19-2013 07:09 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  That's kinda where the decision gets made...do we want to build the womens' version of a Butler or Gonzaga? We're not there...but if we don't make some intentional decisions at the University level, then someone else--maybe even in the MAC--will, and we'll just be another "good" mid-major women's basketball program.

I think Coach Cullop would stay, if the investments are made, until her "dream job" opens up...and that, of course, assumes that she continues to build the program such that she remains a top candidate for that "dream job". Right now, even with a WNIT championship, with no NCAA bids let alone a win in the NCAA, I think she's really only on the radar of some lower-level "big" schools--ones whose programs are basically a mess. I suppose she could choose to go to the worst program at an ACC/Big East/SEC/Big 10 & work to build them up, but the risk she faces is that if she isn't successful, she may, for argument's sake, "end" her career there rather than keep moving up.

Agreed !!
Kind of like a Tim Beckman to Illinois scenario...

(03-19-2013 07:11 AM)SkippyofBC Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 05:24 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Mike O'Brien needs to compensate Tricia Cullop not only for her wins, but also for the crowds UT is drawing. The last I saw (2011) she had a base salary of $193K which at the time was at the top of the MAC. The increased attendance would more than pay for an increase to, let's say $250K, plus a small pay boost for assistants.

That salary probably won't keep her from taking a "big-time" job with big money, but would be a strong show of support that may keep her here.

Found this online by searching ... just for a more accurate Number.here

Cullop M Tricia University of Toledo Head Women's Basketball Coach Basketball - Women $278,838.32

She needs to go to 400k or 500 k to slow her down. With our attendance this should be doable. Will need big buyout if we pay this kind of $$. We should be paying what big 10 is as our attendance is higher than many of them. Look at osu or mich and see what they pay.

Yep--although I think it will be "easier" to build a mid-major women's basketball power at UT than it would have been/will be to build the next "Boise State" football program here. Can't fault Beckman for moving, but I do question whether he moved at the right time & to the right place...

(03-19-2013 07:26 AM)flying dutchman Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 07:11 AM)SkippyofBC Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 05:24 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Mike O'Brien needs to compensate Tricia Cullop not only for her wins, but also for the crowds UT is drawing. The last I saw (2011) she had a base salary of $193K which at the time was at the top of the MAC. The increased attendance would more than pay for an increase to, let's say $250K, plus a small pay boost for assistants.

That salary probably won't keep her from taking a "big-time" job with big money, but would be a strong show of support that may keep her here.

Found this online by searching ... just for a more accurate Number.here

Cullop M Tricia University of Toledo Head Women's Basketball Coach Basketball - Women $278,838.32

She needs to go to 400k or 500 k to slow her down. With our attendance this should be doable. Will need big buyout if we pay this kind of $$. We should be paying what big 10 is as our attendance is higher than many of them. Look at osu or mich and see what they pay.

When Tricia's name came up for the michigan job, they didn't pay that much more than Toledo. That may have changed.

If folks are serious about this, they can help by donating to the Rocket Fund and specifying that they want the funds to go to help the Women's Basketball team, and if possible to keep Coach Cullop.

I know that not everyone can contribute, or contribute much, but if every fan that filled Savage for the WNIT finals, plus the hundreds more that watched on-line like me, gave $10, MOB would have another $80K + to use to help the Lady Rockets, including increasing the coach's salary.

http://www.utoledo.edu/offices/advanceme...ocket.html

You can donate on-line: https://give2ut.utoledo.edu/default.asp

Couple of thoughts...
* If the $278K is accurate I am guessing she is tops in the MAC, Correct?
* WBB is NOT like MBB or FB in that, the very low programs of the Big 6 conferences are not likely to ever grow big time programs in WBB.
*Think about it, their salaries are already larger, their reach for talent is greater and UT still out draws them...some of those fan bases dont care about WBB, period.
* Coach Cullop needs to be careful with the next move...Beckman's move was premature to say the least and he will have a great pay day if he gets the boot...IMHO that is unlikely to happen in WBB...she should stay here until something really good in a true WBB hotbed is available
* Leaving us better be her dream job...where they really like WBB.
* I want her to stay and I hope she does but did I see OSUcks is open? That is the type of job to go for...will see if she gets a look.
* We need to get into the WNCAA, bottom line for her and our UT program to get the props it needs.
Just say'in...

If she wants to leave it will not be because of money.

(03-19-2013 05:05 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  If she wants to leave it will not be because of money.

You really think she would not move for a half million dollar pay raise?? Man I hope you are right. Money isn't everything that's for sure but $500 k is a lot. How much is enough?? One dollar more???

(03-19-2013 05:14 PM)flying dutchman Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 05:05 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  If she wants to leave it will not be because of money.

You really think she would not move for a half million dollar pay raise?? Man I hope you are right. Money isn't everything that's for sure but $500 k is a lot. How much is enough?? One dollar more???

I'm saying she is not somebody who is just going to leave for the sake of taking an opening. Her demeanor and her coaching history would say that she would choose the program most able to reach a goal of winning a NCAA title. The money usually comes with those types of programs.

(03-19-2013 05:17 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 05:14 PM)flying dutchman Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 05:05 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  If she wants to leave it will not be because of money.

You really think she would not move for a half million dollar pay raise?? Man I hope you are right. Money isn't everything that's for sure but $500 k is a lot. How much is enough?? One dollar more???

I'm saying she is not somebody who is just going to leave for the sake of taking an opening. Her demeanor and her coaching history would say that she would choose the program most able to reach a goal of winning a NCAA title. The money usually comes with those types of programs.

I would agree with you. She doesn't seem like the type of person who will jump from 1 job to another every couple of years.

Gang: I think some on here need to be more realistic about Cullop leaving UT. There will be some haters out there who probably think I am dead wrong. What is the one thing that the big time programs look for before making a move to hire a coach. NCAA Tournament Record!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, season records matter, and yes, Coach Cullop has that on her track record. She also is a very classy person and is just a great person. Here at Toledo she has yet to make it to the Big Dance and I do not believe she was able to accomplish that at Evansville(correct me please if I am wrong on this!). The dream job will not come knocking yet due to this fact. I hope in the near future, this hurdle is overcome as I would love to see the Rockets in the NCAA Tournament, until this is accomplished, she will be here at Toledo. If you think she needs a boost in pay, then give her a $100,000 bonus for making it into the Big Dance, then she gets paid and the fans get what they want the most. Perhaps you throw in another $50,000 for making it to the Sweet Sixteen. Just my thoughts.

(03-19-2013 06:05 PM)BusDriver Wrote:  Gang: I think some on here need to be more realistic about Cullop leaving UT. There will be some haters out there who probably think I am dead wrong. What is the one thing that the big time programs look for before making a move to hire a coach. NCAA Tournament Record!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, season records matter, and yes, Coach Cullop has that on her track record. She also is a very classy person and is just a great person. Here at Toledo she has yet to make it to the Big Dance and I do not believe she was able to accomplish that at Evansville(correct me please if I am wrong on this!). The dream job will not come knocking yet due to this fact. I hope in the near future, this hurdle is overcome as I would love to see the Rockets in the NCAA Tournament, until this is accomplished, she will be here at Toledo. If you think she needs a boost in pay, then give her a $100,000 bonus for making it into the Big Dance, then she gets paid and the fans get what they want the most. Perhaps you throw in another $50,000 for making it to the Sweet Sixteen. Just my thoughts.

There's a lot of truth in this, which is why I could see Ohio State going after somebody like Dawn Staley instead of Tricia Cullop. Staley has made multiple NCAA appearances at two schools not known for women's basketball.

I don't think she's in the top 3 for OSU at this point in time. Her "big" job, when she gets it, will likely be Purdue. Until then, it will be hard for her to impress top 25 type programs who routinely go to the NCAA. And that...is to our great benefit.

She has/had a mentor coaching in the pros. Not an option to overlook.

The ticket office/marketing dept. needs to hand out season ticket applications for next year to people leaving these next few games. Even offer a 10 percent discount if they buy within the next month. Perhaps that will raise revenue and increase the attendance even more for next year.