(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote: The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.
So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.
I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao
It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.
The train thought of the big business....love it.
So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey
There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.
The one year is pointless, one and done kids don't care about their school. Do it like baseball, you don't have to go, but if you go you have to stay three years.
So the extra two years will make them care more? Greg Oden with his early injuries would have never made a dime in the NBA if he would've stayed 3 years at OSU.
I don't like the baseball or football rules. If you are perceived as being good enough, then take the money and run. It just doesn't seem fair to the athlete IMO.
One and Dones could care less about school, they are there because they have to be. The NBA dictates to them they have to do something for a year before they can enter the draft, and the NCAA just went along with it.
As somone said though, there are no great college players anymore. If everyone 30 years ago left after one year there would have been no great Michigan team, Houston Team. Ralph Sampson would have never been known as a dominate player. Schools like Gonzaga would have never got off the ground because players like Adam Morrison would be gone. And Duke would have never become a basketball powerhouse.
If you sign a LOI you should have to stay 2 years at least. If not then go play overseas. The NCAA shouldn't be a babysitter for the NBA, but that is exactly what it is right now.
(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote: If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy
The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.
So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.
I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao
It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.
The tra in thought of the big business....love it.
So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey
There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.
Yeah and the only NBA draftees anyone cares about are usually are in the Top 5, the rest just end up being average or better than average league players. Another reason they might do it is to allow older players to have a few more years in the league rather than getting replaced by some fresh out of high school kid. I personally don't care if they come out of high school or go to college for one year.
(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote: So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.
I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao
It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.
The tra in thought of the big business....love it.
So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey
There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.
Yeah and the only NBA draftees anyone cares about are usually are in the Top 5, the rest just end up being average or better than average league players. Another reason they might do it is to allow older players to have a few more years in the league rather than getting replaced by some fresh out of high school kid. I personally don't care if they come out of high school or go to college for one year.
XACTLY the point...why would you risk injury when you will be given much more if you are allowed to leave based on perception....ya nailed it!
(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote: So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.
I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao
It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.
The train thought of the big business....love it.
So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey
There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.
The one year is pointless, one and done kids don't care about their school. Do it like baseball, you don't have to go, but if you go you have to stay three years.
So the extra two years will make them care more? Greg Oden with his early injuries would have never made a dime in the NBA if he would've stayed 3 years at OSU.
I don't like the baseball or football rules. If you are perceived as being good enough, then take the money and run. It just doesn't seem fair to the athlete IMO.
Who says Greg Oden should have more money than the rest of us?
I see a lot of crap (coming from people like Jason Whitlock, but also from more reasonable individuals) that seems to imply that if you can play a sport and you don't get rich off of it, that's some sort of huge inequity that we have to correct. Typically their argument is that other people are making money off of them, so they have a right.
That argument fails on a number of levels, though. It's necessary to get lucky to make money at anything. There are plenty of computer programmers who are better than Bill Gates but who are just languishing in their parents' basement. Jason Whitlock isn't clamoring for them to get more cash, nor is anyone else.
As for making money for other people, well, we all do that. It can be good leverage for negotiations but it doesn't entitle anyone to anything... especially an 18-year-old whose main talent is shooting hoops.
(03-20-2013 10:21 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote: It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.
The train thought of the big business....love it.
So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey
There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.
The one year is pointless, one and done kids don't care about their school. Do it like baseball, you don't have to go, but if you go you have to stay three years.
So the extra two years will make them care more? Greg Oden with his early injuries would have never made a dime in the NBA if he would've stayed 3 years at OSU.
I don't like the baseball or football rules. If you are perceived as being good enough, then take the money and run. It just doesn't seem fair to the athlete IMO.
Who says Greg Oden should have more money than the rest of us?
I see a lot of crap (coming from people like Jason Whitlock, but also from more reasonable individuals) that seems to imply that if you can play a sport and you don't get rich off of it, that's some sort of huge inequity that we have to correct. Typically their argument is that other people are making money off of them, so they have a right.
That argument fails on a number of levels, though. It's necessary to get lucky to make money at anything. There are plenty of computer programmers who are better than Bill Gates but who are just languishing in their parents' basement. Jason Whitlock isn't clamoring for them to get more cash, nor is anyone else.
As for making money for other people, well, we all do that. It can be good leverage for negotiations but it doesn't entitle anyone to anything... especially an 18-year-old whose main talent is shooting hoops.
You are missing the point....didn't say he SHOULD make more than us...saying he should be ALLOWED to make more than his earning potential based on surviving a mandated time frame. Think about it....two years can cost 6-10M/year....what is a gadwam college fkn degree going to do in relative terms....jfc
(This post was last modified: 03-20-2013 04:30 PM by stinkfist.)
