(03-16-2013 08:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I said naysayers beware. Then some come in this thread & act like they are shocked there's an opinion other than theirs. I'll sit with Tiger fans that disagree with me all day. I love good debate. But as I've said, many of you are extremely over zealous to demean fellow tiger lovers just because they don't share your opinion. I've lashed out at a few on here, but I garuntee you they've earned it in the way they troll this board with tens of thousands of posts thinking that they set the standard of fan hood and IQ. But their lack of openmindedness & eagerness to throw folks under a miserable bus shows they don't have much amo to fight with.

I respect your opinion and you are entitled to it, but you should not be surprised when Tiger fans firmly support Tiger football because they enjoy it or because they have the foresight of football's contribution to the long term success of Tiger athletics.

I encourage you and other Tiger fans to join the effort to improve football. Time is short and the time to act is now.

(03-16-2013 01:39 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:21 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  our league may have negotiated a low payout for tv revenue this time around.
Basically it is starting over.
However, we have 4 teams...Memphis,UConn,Temple, and Cincy.
If those 4 teams do well year in and year out...and the new league can get part of 3-4 teams into bowl games..we wil make considerably more money in renegotiations than what the Big East will get from Fox when it comes time to renegotiate our contract.
The TBD conference we are part of will be shown on ESPN...and that exposure will be invaluable to recruiting efforts for the Tiger's football team moving forward.
Book it.

You mean Temple who is considering dropping football? Or Cincy & UCONN who have proven their loyalty by selling out what little was left of a name & are currently pandering to exit the nearest fire escape?

Why would Temple consider dropping football? True they had a disappointing 4-7 season last year...but the year before they went 9-4.
I think they'd have to go 0-12 for a couple of seasons straight before they seriously do drop football.

As for Cincy and UConn, they are in the same boat we are in.
You say they proved their loyalty by selling off the name of the conference...we AREN'T IN the Big East yet. What right do we have to tell them what they can do with the conference name....or expect any money from the proceeds?
If any league wanted them....they'd be in a new league already. It may happen...it may not. Truth be told if the ACC, SEC, B1G, or the B12 called...Memphis would drop the new league in a heartbeat too....so don't cry foul because Cincy, UConn, and USF aren't terribly disappointed that the league they were in fell down around them. They deserved whatever financial renumeration they have gotten/will get for being abandonded by their old league brethren.

(03-16-2013 01:23 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I've spent my years pouring money into Memphis football tickets &

As for as I am concerned, you can stuff your money up your ass. Get on the wagon or get out of the way.

(03-16-2013 03:36 AM)MemphisTigersFootball Wrote:  It is my opinion .... that the reason the c7 schools got so much money from Fox ..... was because ESPN bought up all (most) of the football programing. So they had plenty of money to buy the next best thing ...... Basketball

Completely possible. Or just once again this same group of conference hopping schools has once again shown their inability to negotiate, willingness to settle and that reshuffling, adding a few new names & starting a new league means another decade of small tv contracts while trying to earn respect and build tradition. Only a decade from now to do it all over again.

(03-16-2013 08:13 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:23 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  I've spent my years pouring money into Memphis football tickets &

As for as I am concerned, you can stuff your money up your ass. Get on the wagon or get out of the way.

Creative...or not. Like I said. Bullies who hate people with a diverse opinion. You should reconsider that. There's a city of 1.5 million who never fill the liberty bowl even in the best years that backs up my reasoning. I've done my bleeding with the football program. Now it's time for basketball to take the steering wheel.

(03-16-2013 07:17 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  One might argue that CUSA has been really good for Memphis basketball.

Now with an upgraded ver 2.0 it might just be the perfect fit.

We get to step up in basketball competition and with UL out of the mix we can quickly compete for football titles.

I'm down with the new all sports confence and feel its going to be a perfect home for us.

Are you kidding? CUSA good for tiger basketball? In case you haven't noticed the Tigers are never discussed nationally unless they are being ridiculed for their conference. The Tigers are being slowly pushed away into the never never land of CBSC & CSS. The New Big East can fix that.

(03-16-2013 04:18 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Since we have been Playing in the (early 1900s) we have lost more than we have won in football. Over a 100 years of losing. Football is not a money making sport here and things aren't really looking any better for the future.
Tiger Basketball is where it is at. I agree with the OP, we have to put BB first. It is the only thing that makes the crap in this city worth it. We have to do what is best for Hoops.

football wasnt a money maker at Louisville for 90 years. They invest in the program 15 years ago and now they are in the ACC. But yea, lets not follow that blue print.

(03-16-2013 02:55 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:53 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:42 AM)transitt Wrote:  You mean Cincy and Uconn who have been pouring money into....wait....football to make themselves more attractive to the ACC>

Great point, only Memphis isn't pouring money into football. You think a new practice facility or Tiger lane or a jumbo tron means we've arrived. Dude, I live 5 miles from a high school that puts more money into football (Allen, tx) than Memphis does. The funny thing is that Memphis says they want to be "bCS". So they sacrifice basketball for football and place us in mid major football leagues. But then never invest in football. Dude, BCS schools have 4 jumbo Trons, multiple facilities, invest $millions per month, not year. That ship has sailed tiger fans. It ain't coming back. But there's a docked ship waiting for basketball right now, & we are literally letting it sail away.

All I can say is, the day the University of Memphis gives up football is the day I stop watching college sports.. of any kind.

Personally, I think you are a little over the top tonight. I could counter almost everything in this post (such as, BCS schools do not have 4 jumbotrons - you are exaggerating to make your point), but it hardly seems worth the effort, since you don't seem to be open to the fact that you might be in error.

Actually, lots of programs are going to a multiple jumbo tron set up.

(03-16-2013 01:37 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:23 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:15 AM)TripleA Wrote:  You need to change who you root for. It's obviously not "anytang Memphis."

I've spent my years pouring money into Memphis football tickets & I've seen first hand how 95% of Tiger fans are not Tiger football fans. From 75% empty games, to Season ticket holders changing to orange every other year to $5 Kroger tickets not selling out a game. I've never changed my colors & I think not many on this board can stack the amount of tires they've burned against mine with how much I've traveled for basketball & football. Don't question someones commitment that you don't know. I just happen to be aware of what's happening.

It makes no difference if I know you or not. I can read. So, you're saying you still support Tiger football, which falls under the definition of "anytang Memphis?"

It makes a lot of difference if you know someone. You seem like a real tuff guy on here with your mirads of posts and apparently a lot of time but hey, I can't say for sure, I don't really know you. But I made a point in my OP, if the university continues to let kill what is the pride of Anytang Memphis, yes, I will hate it. Don't wrest words with me. You have thousands upon thousands of posts for me to go back and prove your inaccuracies that you've presented to Tiger fans. About yourself, about what you've said would happen, about your valid "sources". And I could cloud the first five pages with your bravado.

If you are seeking validation for killing off Tiger football, you might want to try some other place besides a Tiger messageboard.

Ima sign out for a bit. I don't hang out here while I'm actually at games hundreds of miles from home. Most of you who disagrees with me can keep disagreeing while they are on their couch. You can even keep saying I'm not a true fan and that my support isn't welcome.

(03-16-2013 04:18 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Since we have been Playing in the (early 1900s) we have lost more than we have won in football. Over a 100 years of losing. Football is not a money making sport here and things aren't really looking any better for the future.
Tiger Basketball is where it is at. I agree with the OP, we have to put BB first. It is the only thing that makes the crap in this city worth it. We have to do what is best for Hoops.

If that's it, maybe you shouldn't live in Memphis... oh, wait. Olive Branch.

(03-16-2013 08:45 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Ima sign out for a bit. I don't hang out here while I'm actually at games hundreds of miles from home. Most of you who disagrees with me can keep disagreeing while they are on their couch. You can even keep saying I'm not a true fan and that my support isn't welcome.

The Tiger athletic program needs all the support it can muster and I hope you change your mind and return to the fold. Meanwhile, if you are in Tulsa, I join you in spirit in rooting for the Tigers and wish you a safe journey home.

We need to build football, and take that shot.

This is one of those threads that will go in circles because no one is going to change their mind. With that said, its been entertaining.

Not calling out the OP for this, but I've had this discussion with a few 'Tiger' fans only to discover that the cheer in the Forum in the winter....






.....and tailgate in the Grove that fall..
This type of thinking has held Memphis back. Anyone who doesn't see it just doesn't want to.

It's really very simple for me, Big D; you do what you believe is best for the athletic program and the university in totality. Given football revenue exceeds basketball revenue at most AQ conference schools, compliments of tv revenue, the upgrade UM selected provides it an opportunity to pursue that ideal.

Given Tiger football showed signs of life late last season, and that no one hired our coach (yet), and that Memphis the city is dying to become more than a great place to see high school football, the choice UM made provides the football program a better platform from which to generate new revenue for the athletic department and for the university and the athletic department.

(03-16-2013 08:54 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 08:04 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 07:55 AM)Derby Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 01:06 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  But I guess I'm stupid...

No, no one here is "stupid". However, don't hang your hat on being "intellectually challenged" either. Oh, and don't be ashamed of not knowing the inner-workings of collegiate athletics, nor understanding the "big picture". RC didn't get it either.

I like how you did that. Pull out one sentence. That's amazingly smart.

Thanks. English 1101.

thanks for a new thread on this topic

Should love Memphis.

All of it.

Not sure throwing out retarded and stupid is the way to go.

Yes it was a troll- but even the most ardent football only fans recognize the impact of basketball- yet an all sports conference is the way to go here...try and enjoy.